littlrook
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thinking about making my own td, and was wondering how much i can put into the penetrate without it leaving a powder on my skin.
Seeing as how that's the increments NP sells it at, it's just a match made in heaven. Was it 5 easy with heating or without? I know heating has always enabled me to get an additional gram or 2 into solution no problem.5g goes in easy, Hank said 7g was too much; 6g is probably the upper limit on the current Penetrate.
The new penetrate is much better than the old with heat 5gm goes in with no problem and stay suspended its a greatly improvedSeeing as how that's the increments NP sells it at, it's just a match made in heaven. Was it 5 easy with heating or without? I know heating has always enabled me to get an additional gram or 2 into solution no problem.
Good to hear!The new penetrate is much better than the old with heat 5gm goes in with no problem and stay suspended its a greatly improved
The new Penetrate? Are you sure you warmed it up enough? Add it in gradually, and 5g is a breee.I must be doing something wrong. 5 grams Form into Penetrate with heat and plenty of mixing... It's still pretty grainy. Did the benzyl help and how much?
Once the water was hot I placed the pyrex with penetrate and trione in it for about 5mins mixing with a spoon until the penetrate thin out ,then remove pyrex from water and allow to cool for about 10-12mins.I also got a little grit,but it rubbed nicely into the skin with no flakingYeah, new formula. Warmed it before pouring into pyrex and then heated it slowly to low heat. Didn't know how hot it should be though. It was too hot to touch. It seems to stay mixed ok if I shake it up really good but still get some grit when I apply it.
Does it need to stay in heat for a while after you've mixed the form? Going to purchase some more when it runs out. Even with it not mixed completely I still feel great at 4 pumps 2 x daily, Monday - Friday.
NP site say 5gm of form in penetrate will yield 23mg/ml,1 pump of the new penetrate=1.8ml so it looks like 23mg/ml*1.8ml=41.4mgim not good with math so how many mg would 1 squit of penetrate/5g form give you? im trying to compare the numbers from this and the CEL version coming out. im thinking (off the top of my head) it would be more cost effective to get NP pen/form. i want to place an order soon, but not sure if i should wait for CEL version or not =/
On the NP site it said the new penetrate is only 215mlIf you go by measurements converted from ounces it would work out to something like this:
8oz = 240ml
5000mg Form/ 240ml = 20.8mg/ ml
20.8mg X 1.8ml(amount per pump) = 37.4mg of Form/ pump
If that's the case, then the solution is closer to 7oz then 8oz as labeled and your calculation are correct sir.:thumbsup:On the NP site it said the new penetrate is only 215ml
My pyrex had the bottle of Penetrate right at the 8oz mark.If that's the case, then the solution is closer to 7oz then 8oz as labeled and your calculation are correct sir.:thumbsup:
Heat the Penetrate first THEN slowly add the Form. I did this and mine was still a little grainy, but not bad...but again, I'll be buying CEL's next time. Less product, yes, but better quality than I can make myself.i just got my form/pen in the mail and after doing a search on the forums, im hesitant how well its gonna go. a lot of people have been following it exactly as the pics and instructions say on the product info, but they are still getting a grainy texture. almost wishing i would have waited for the CEL version. however its only 3 grams.
With the price per gram you'll save about $1.20 homebrewing(40cents/gram). The price of convenience is up to you.:thumbsup:i just got my form/pen in the mail and after doing a search on the forums, im hesitant how well its gonna go. a lot of people have been following it exactly as the pics and instructions say on the product info, but they are still getting a grainy texture. almost wishing i would have waited for the CEL version. however its only 3 grams.
i made this myself last week and it seemed to be ok but as time goes on there seems to be bigger chunks of powder forming. can u reheat it to help it dissolve back in?5g goes in easy, Hank said 7g was too much; 6g is probably the upper limit on the current Penetrate.
hahaha. you should be able to find a pyrex at walmart i think.I am trying to find a pyrex to do this with. Not sure where to get. Can I just use a mason jar on a hot pan of water to brew this?
Yeah I am hillbilly, stfu I have mason jars and all the stuff for capping food :\
a Pyrex is a beaker type thing correct.I look for it I get cooking ware online.hahaha. you should be able to find a pyrex at walmart i think.
Leave it out in the sun :/ should be hot enough there to melt it right?:nana:I am in Iraq and ran plain hot water through a coffee maker, put the pen in a glass, added the form, mixed, and it is grainy. I've redone this several times every few days because it keeps getting thick and grainy. Any other advice?
http://www.lemelange.com/lab_ware.htma Pyrex is a beaker type thing correct.I look for it I get cooking ware online.