Separating Fillers from Finaplix / Trenbolone

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  1. Separating Fillers from Finaplix / Trenbolone


    I'm sure this has been posted, but I gave up after 5 searches with no luck. I have an ample supply of a transdermal carrier, but am trying to figure out how filter the hormone out of finaplix pellets? I don't want to mix the fillers into my homebrew.


  2. You really don't need to do that. If you filter out fillers, you can inject the fina instead of transdermal.
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  3. But what if you don't want to pin, and you don't want the "unkown" fillers being absorbed trandermally? aka....me

  4. Secondary question: Should I be worried about absorbing the fillers or are they harmless? I'm concerned since my source doesn't specify what the fillers are, and also says it was prepared in an "unsterilized" process......kind of freaks me out.

  5. Dissolve them in any pure alcohol (99% iso should work ok) - the hormone will dissolve, but the binders will not. Then you can either decant it or just filter it through a coffee filter.

    Finally, let the alcohol evaporate off and you should have fairly pure trenbolone acetate.
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  6. You could use the old crystal fina method and add that to your transdermal carrier...although personally I'd just inject it...

  7. Quote Originally Posted by SoCo4Fun View Post
    You could use the old crystal fina method and add that to your transdermal carrier...although personally I'd just inject it...
    I really don't want to pin yet, but I know that's what everybody says. Tren will suck for a first timer, since you need to shoot ED or EOD. What is the slimmest gauge pin I could shoot with? I don't want to be stickin' a 22 gauge EOD....especially my first time.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MF210 View Post
    I really don't want to pin yet, but I know that's what everybody says. Tren will suck for a first timer, since you need to shoot ED or EOD. What is the slimmest gauge pin I could shoot with? I don't want to be stickin' a 22 gauge EOD....especially my first time.

    I always use a 23g and it's no big deal....my first real cycle was prop...It's fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF210 View Post
    I really don't want to pin yet, but I know that's what everybody says. Tren will suck for a first timer, since you need to shoot ED or EOD. What is the slimmest gauge pin I could shoot with? I don't want to be stickin' a 22 gauge EOD....especially my first time.
    tren solo will likely kind of suck too
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleBound1337 View Post
    Good link musclebound. A lot of additional good info in there as well.

  11. SoCo4Fun - 23 is slightly smaller and wouldn't be as bad with test since that is only 1 or 2X per week. Tren could potentially be everyday which would suck. My ass would be solid scar tissue (-:

    EasyEJL - I would do it with 4AD. I will never do any cycle without some form of test.....gotta keep my member working at all times (-:

  12. Quote Originally Posted by MF210 View Post
    SoCo4Fun - 23 is slightly smaller and wouldn't be as bad with test since that is only 1 or 2X per week. Tren could potentially be everyday which would suck. My ass would be solid scar tissue (-:

    EasyEJL - I would do it with 4AD. I will never do any cycle without some form of test.....gotta keep my member working at all times (-:

    I've done plenty of tren cycles pinning everyday...and how is prop only once or twice a week? Yeah sure, in theory you could pin prop E3D but most people pin EOD or ED...

  13. Quote Originally Posted by skazman View Post
    Dissolve them in any pure alcohol (99% iso should work ok) - the hormone will dissolve, but the binders will not. Then you can either decant it or just filter it through a coffee filter.

    Finally, let the alcohol evaporate off and you should have fairly pure trenbolone acetate.
    If you don't want to pin this is the best way to separate the fillers and keep most or all the Tren. You can go to Basskiller's site and get just about everything there is to know about Tren including the Crystal Fina Method. For Transdermal I would just do the alcohol extraction because you lose product (10-20%) recrystallizing and you don't need it for transdermal delivery. The fillers are just talc and cellulose and almost all is filtered out in the alcohol extraction.

    Compound your Trenbolone into Phlogel Ultra, which is available in the U.S. now (no more having to get it from Canada), and you are G2G. Phlogel is awesome. Its on par with DMSO absorption-wise without the stink. Figure 50% absorption. Hope this helps.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by SoCo4Fun View Post
    I've done plenty of tren cycles pinning everyday...and how is prop only once or twice a week? Yeah sure, in theory you could pin prop E3D but most people pin EOD or ED...
    Although I've never, pinned, I've done a lot of research and have NEVER read post of someone shooting Test Every Day!

  15. See my post below...
    Last edited by SoCo4Fun; 03-09-2009 at 11:41 AM. Reason: added more info...
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    Quote Originally Posted by centeroiler View Post
    If you don't want to pin this is the best way to separate the fillers and keep most or all the Tren. You can go to Basskiller's site and get just about everything there is to know about Tren including the Crystal Fina Method. For Transdermal I would just do the alcohol extraction because you lose product (10-20%) recrystallizing and you don't need it for transdermal delivery. The fillers are just talc and cellulose and almost all is filtered out in the alcohol extraction.

    Compound your Trenbolone into Phlogel Ultra, which is available in the U.S. now (no more having to get it from Canada), and you are G2G. Phlogel is awesome. Its on par with DMSO absorption-wise without the stink. Figure 50% absorption. Hope this helps.
    hmm what sort of amount of phlogel do you end up smearing on a day this way? just wondering about contact/transferral risk
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  17. I have a way of coming across very short so I'm coming back to add more info...

    Test is the hormone that people inject but it comes with many different esters attached. Sure, most people pin enanthate or cyp 1 or twice a week but prop really should be pinned EOD for stable blood levels...even more frequent is base or what a lot of people call TNE (test no ester). That has to be pinned daily (if not multiple times in a day).

  18. Here are a few threads of people talking about test prop and how they pin it EOD...

    TrenA/TestP

    ~~test prop...tren ace...nuff said~~

    This one is ED:
    Another Prop/Ace log


    Most people these days pin their prop EOD...back when I first got into gear people were pinning prop daily...I still find it keeps sides to a minimum for me when I pin prop daily...

  19. Quote Originally Posted by SoCo4Fun View Post
    Here are a few threads of people talking about test prop and how they pin it EOD...

    TrenA/TestP

    ~~test prop...tren ace...nuff said~~

    This one is ED:
    Another Prop/Ace log


    Most people these days pin their prop EOD...back when I first got into gear people were pinning prop daily...I still find it keeps sides to a minimum for me when I pin prop daily...
    Here is another going ED, and his first inject..
    First Injectable: TestE kicked with Superdrol

    I am surprised you did all that reading, and never came across a post of someone pinning prop ED, or EOD.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    hmm what sort of amount of phlogel do you end up smearing on a day this way? just wondering about contact/transferral risk
    You don't really have to worry about the transfer after about 30 mihutes or so. I would just put the Phlojel Ultra in a place that is covered by your shirt. The best place for any androgenic hormone carried by a transdermal is upper back and shoulders.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Here is another going ED, and his first inject..
    First Injectable: TestE kicked with Superdrol

    I am surprised you did all that reading, and never came across a post of someone pinning prop ED, or EOD.
    I never specifically searched Test prop. I've read a lot on "basic" test enanthate and Sust cycles (which are once or twice a week)

    Good replies everybody, and thanks for the info.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    hmm what sort of amount of phlogel do you end up smearing on a day this way? just wondering about contact/transferral risk
    Well, you can easily compound up to 200 mg/gram with Phlogel Ultra, and even more if you compound using a solvent.

    So, you don't have to "smear" it on. With Tren figuring 50% absorption for Phlogel, you could easily compound it at 100mg/gram for a net application of 50mg of Trenbolone Acetate ED, or @150mg/gram for a net 75mg Tren Ace EOD. A gram of Phlogel is pretty small bro, so it is not a lot.

    Avoid contact for at least an hour to be safe. But honestly, with Trenbolone I would keep the application site covered until you wash. I would not risk my loved ones with exposure to Tren. NFW.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by hormonedude View Post
    You don't really have to worry about the transfer after about 30 mihutes or so. I would just put the Phlojel Ultra in a place that is covered by your shirt. The best place for any androgenic hormone carried by a transdermal is upper back and shoulders.
    Actually the best place is the balls bro, with +/-70% total absorption. Now I understand, most people don't want to do the nuts, but technically it does have the highest absorption of all and actually approachs injection. I don't know about Phlogel on the nuts though, ouch.......
    Last edited by centeroiler; 03-10-2009 at 01:06 AM. Reason: content

  24. 70% huh. Guess you have tried it then.
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    I talked to someone who used the cattle gun and injected the pellets directly

    yeah, if you are pinning test + hcg and dont care about the shutdown then the sack is the place to put the TD
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by MF210 View Post
    I really don't want to pin yet, but I know that's what everybody says. Tren will suck for a first timer, since you need to shoot ED or EOD. What is the slimmest gauge pin I could shoot with? I don't want to be stickin' a 22 gauge EOD....especially my first time.
    just curious, why dont you want to pin? i have got to be the biggest wuss when it comes to needles. but after the 3rd or 4th stab i start looking forward to the next shot.

    as for the "slimmest" gauge, i am doing 25 gauge for quads and delts. 22 gauge for glutes. i have read some people using insulin needles, but i think that would take awhile to push the oil through.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by parkwaytrash View Post
    just curious, why dont you want to pin? i have got to be the biggest wuss when it comes to needles. but after the 3rd or 4th stab i start looking forward to the next shot.

    as for the "slimmest" gauge, i am doing 25 gauge for quads and delts. 22 gauge for glutes. i have read some people using insulin needles, but i think that would take awhile to push the oil through.
    The main reason is that I have some 4AD on hand, and tren is legal to obtain. As a pin virgin, I'd rather not have to stick tren ED or EOD for my first cycle

    If test was legal, a test/deca cycle would probably be a no brainer first cycle for me. Since I can't confirm the reliability of a potential source, I'll probably just take another baby step

  28. Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    70% huh. Guess you have tried it then.
    I'll try anything...once. DMSO on the bag??? Well, almost anything...

    Seriously, the efficacy of scotal absorption is very well documented. Lots of 5-alpha reductase/DHT conversion though.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by centeroiler View Post
    I'll try anything...once. DMSO on the bag??? Well, almost anything...

    Seriously, the efficacy of scotal absorption is very well documented. Lots of 5-alpha reductase/DHT conversion though.
    Something about that idea gives me the willies. I think I'd rather pin than rub it on my twin sacred organs
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