I CANNOT get my shoulders sore
- 03-19-2008, 09:28 AM
- 03-19-2008, 09:31 AM
- 03-19-2008, 02:10 PM
Flexing (or stretching, or just keeping moving) in the gym is part of your workout. You're supposed to by totally focused on your lift, your breathing, until the end of your set, at which point, your attention is on keeping the blood flowing through the tissues you were just working - it's important to do this *now* (your between-set rest) because those tissues need all the oxygen, all the nutrients they can get in order to heal & rebuild; they also need to have the waste products generated by your set removed ASAP. If you don't promote/stimulate fluid transport, those tissues will begin to swell as a result of the mechanical inflammation cause by lifting. This will prevent the removal of waste & detritus & block the repair crews.
At least stretch the primary & secondary movers (a towel will help), and go easy on them - nothing ballistic or extreme.
My 20 pfennigs, anyway
03-19-2008, 02:36 PM
Stretching isn't recommended during a workout but after it or in a separate session altogether. Stretching during a workout can cause microtears in the deep fascia and even form scar tissue. Also, stretching in between sets has shown to reduce strength output anywhere from 5-15%. Less weight moved=less adaptive response generated.
You do need to flush the muscle with nutrients and remove waste products but this can be obtained in a much safer and more efficient manner with low intensity cardio (bpm 120-140) and plenty of BCAA's before, during and after your workout.
03-28-2008, 01:24 PM
pre exaust.....i wouldnt worry too much about getting sore...take care of your shoulders.....dont abuse them....youll thank me later
03-28-2008, 01:43 PM
03-28-2008, 01:55 PM
03-28-2008, 04:21 PM
03-28-2008, 06:24 PM
04-03-2008, 12:47 PM
04-15-2008, 08:39 AM
I personally think that people commonly over train when it comes to shoulders! Think about the size of your delts in comparission to say your back or your legs! I bet most people do just as many if not more exercises for delts as for the other body parts!
Looking at your shoulder routine, I personally feel that you might be doing too much!! Beasting the hell out of your shoulders (or any other body part for that matter), unless your on the juice, will not make them bigger! People with smaller pecs also make this exact same mistake when working chest!
Don't forget that the lateral delt is a relatively small muscle and is bought into use during other bigger moves....talking about isolating it so much is fairly pointless! Personally I would remove all the decending weight work as it ends up being too much and I would never recommend behind neck pressing on the smith either....not a natural movement for your shoulder at all! Stick to the heavy compound moves your doing...arnold or dumbell shoulder press (always standing), clean and press....face pulls, heavy deadlift and heavy bench are also going help shoulder growth!
I was the same in the beginning, but now-a-days I do a maximum of 2 compound shoulder moves a week and my delts are the biggest they have ever been!
04-15-2008, 05:15 PM
04-15-2008, 06:02 PM
I like the Hang Clean and Push Press.
This is a 'split' push press, but it works.
04-15-2008, 06:22 PM
Problem solved guys.
Lateral deltoids are coming along slowly but surely, and showing more definition.
I attribute this primarily to facepulls on a row bench, leaned back slightly to activate lateral heads. And secondly, I attribute this to starting some olympic lifts. These include the basic clean, the clean to push-press, and the one-armed dumbbell snatch.
04-16-2008, 04:06 AM
04-16-2008, 02:16 PM
04-16-2008, 10:17 PM
seems too high volume unless you're a bodybuilder on some gear. i'd lower it to two exercises. that's just me, but hey, i'm not that great at this workout stuff right now.
04-17-2008, 06:35 AM
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