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  1.  01-12-2008  03:07 PM
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    Help me become a nightclub bouncer


    I have an opportunity to be a bouncer at a local nightclub. I'll be waiting a few months until I get back to being in the shape that I was in last summer and when I'm off probation. Unfortunately, I can't take this job while on probation seeing as how the nightclub serves alcohol. Ridiculous, I know. So, anyways, I'm 5'8''. Last summer, I went from 190lbs to 205. I was very toned and buffed. I loved it. Due to some unfortunate events, run-in's with the law, etc., I ended up quitting my job and my membership at a localy gym ended up expiring. I've been beginning getting myself back up on my feet.

    Now, at this club, the bouncers have one of two things; height or build. Most of the tall ones are real thin and a lot of the shorter to average height ones are wide. I plan on getting as toned and buffed as I was before, but I also wanna aim for a much bigger chest and much bigger arms.

    I was just wondering if there were any specific workouts, which strongly target the chest and arms, biceps and triceps in particular.

    I'll also be going into Corrections this Fall, but I'll be getting plenty of exercise and training while at the Academy.



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    What sort of workouts for your chest & arms last summer?

    I'm a big fan of hammer cursl, preachers, skull crushers / French curls, tricep kick backs & of course the mother of all tricep exercises...tricep push downs!

    In terms of chest, you of course of a few options, since the ches tis built of 3 areas. You could always do the good ol' DB chest press, flyes, cable cross overs. As well as those cool exercises, you could super set a push up thing I do. I do 10 wide stance push ups, then 10 normal width, then 10 narrow stance...after a few sessions, we'll see how good your arms & chest are!!!!!!!

    How does ^ sound ?

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    I would not focus so greatly as to creat muscle imbalances, rather train weaker groups after rest days and hammer on them, but still do all other bodyparts. If i were having to restain, manhandle, escort, and fight, i would want to be in fighting shape. Being injury prone, getting your ass kicked, and getting long term damage would be what i would prepare for. Get on a punching bag, great warm up and cardio. Work on your footwork and reflexes, doing moving lifts or supersetting. Good luck man.

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    of course the obvious. Bench pressing, push ups, curls, incline curls, overhead tri extensions, hands at waist push ups, chin ups, dips. Ive been working on building my arms lately. What I've found to be really effective are incline curls, overhead tri exts, hand @ waist push ups, and dips. Also on getting in fighting shape i can only say one thing. Get a jump rope. For wrestling we jump rope every day. Best thing ive ever done for cardio, footwork, rythm, and leg strength also if you get a weighted jumprope it will build your arms too.

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    Thanks a lot for the input so far, guys! I really appreciate it. The nightclub I'll be working at has it's frequent party poopers and trouble makers. The bouncers then take over and the police are called. I can't count how many times I've seen some of the customers get mangled, but that's only when they show any aggressive or violent behavior towards other customers and employees. I'm expecting some people to really like me and some people to really hate me, but that happens at every job. I'll be sure to go with the suggestions you've made so far.

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    let us know how everything works out

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    Originally Posted by Laxislife1265 View Post
    let us know how everything works out
    Will do. Thanks again for the advice! I really can't wait to get into the gym. I was so toned and jacked last summer, it's not even funny. I get so depressed just thinking about it now. I had lost almost everything and, with the holiday season, have gained several pounds back, I'm sure. I'm currently waiting on a job opportunity of being a private state-licensed security officer on the Air Force Base where I live. The bouncer gig would only be on the weekends. I'm hoping to be doing this until I got into Corrections this fall. Even then, I'd like to be in the best shape possible. There is no end to the different sizes of inmates that you encounter. Also, being fresh out of the Academy, the DOC loves to stick you into the biggest and baddest prisons since you have fresh training and knowledge. The worst prisons here in New York are Rikers, Sing-Sing, and Hudson. Prisoners constantly start riots, fights (with other inmates and guards), and they're just always ticking timebombs. You never know what to expect. You live day by day in those prisons. So, you can see that I'm not only interested in bodybuilding as a hobby. It'll also be very beneficial to me with careers I'll be pursuing in authoritive positions.

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    I live around NY also. I live in westchester. well good luck and try not to piss too many people off in prison.

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    Originally Posted by Laxislife1265 View Post
    I live around NY also. I live in westchester. well good luck and try not to piss too many people off in prison.
    I may need all the luck I can get, so thank you. So many prisons nowadays are like battlezones.

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    The best exercises for building size, whether it's your chest or your arms or legs ect. is squats and deadlifts. I know it sounds a little weird to do squats to train your chest, but these two exercies release the most GH. Also, the body just likes to be proportionate, so trying to build one part excessively won't work as well as training the whole thing. Building overall mass is the key. Combine it with your chest and arm workouts, eat a s h i t load, and you should make progress fairly quickly.

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    Just get some Epistane - that'll give you a superman feeling, plus the gym benefits.

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    Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    Just get some Epistane - that'll give you a superman feeling, plus the gym benefits.
    This has been on my 'to do' list for the longest time now. Trust me, I plan on getting around to it.

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    Originally Posted by Dancebot 2000 View Post
    The best exercises for building size, whether it's your chest or your arms or legs ect. is squats and deadlifts. I know it sounds a little weird to do squats to train your chest, but these two exercies release the most GH. Also, the body just likes to be proportionate, so trying to build one part excessively won't work as well as training the whole thing. Building overall mass is the key. Combine it with your chest and arm workouts, eat a s h i t load, and you should make progress fairly quickly.
    To be honest, I've never done squats or deadlifts before. I won't need anyone to spot me, will I?

    Eating and the appropriate supplementation should definitely not even be a problem at all.

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    Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    To be honest, I've never done squats or deadlifts before. I won't need anyone to spot me, will I?

    Eating and the appropriate supplementation should definitely not even be a problem at all.
    You won't need a spotter for DL, and you won't need for squats unless you are really pushing max weight. Legs respond very well to high volume, so keep your reps ATLEAST 8 (I do sometimes do 4-6, but usually I do 10-20 reps). Push the weight you are doing.

    If you've never done squats before, then brace yourself because;

    1) They're hard, and they hurt the next day.

    2) you will break through any sort of plateau, and you'll grow more than you have in years.

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    Originally Posted by Dancebot 2000 View Post
    You won't need a spotter for DL, and you won't need for squats unless you are really pushing max weight. Legs respond very well to high volume, so keep your reps ATLEAST 8 (I do sometimes do 4-6, but usually I do 10-20 reps). Push the weight you are doing.

    If you've never done squats before, then brace yourself because;

    1) They're hard, and they hurt the next day.

    2) you will break through any sort of plateau, and you'll grow more than you have in years.
    They actually sound very beneficial, but fun as well! I'm definitely gonna try these out. I really do appreciate your input.

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    on a more practical note, as a tall, skinny ( I dread to think what I way now, maybe 190 down from 210? at 6'3" , Ive got lazy and need to hit the weights, even if my BF% is down) bouncer ( doorman) here in the UK, talking is a more useful skill than looking the part.

    obviously the doors are a bit different here than there, but check out Working the Doors forums to pick up some info should you want it!

    oh, and BulletProofME.com Body Armor / Bullet proof Vests do cheap, well fitting custom stab / ballistic vests.

    Martial arts made me loose my strength training focus, although they have really sharpened up my skills. if you haven't done anything before check out Sherdog.com - Serving up Heaping Fistfuls of Mixed Martial Arts forums, maybe do some Krav maga from a descent trainer to get ya on your toes and sparring and for the verbal confrontation stuff they often do. I find the trickis to be able to go from nice, jokey, tolerant, polite guy to aggressive, kill you with my stare phyco in a heartbeat when its time to go for it. adrenaline to most people = fear. I really need to get my ass back into the squat rack on occasion thou!

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    We don't have any problems with people using weapons, especially since the city police would just come running out of nowhere and shooting sh!t up. We usually get drunk/pissed off/immature patrons who ended up throwing their fists around, get verbal, and start throwing things. Those are the people that I'll be dealing with, but for now, I'm just another patron. Talking is the first alternative to defusing a problem. If that doesn't work, then you resort to escorting them out of the club. If that doesn't work, then you threaten to call the police and begin escorting them outside (the police threat usually convinces many angry patrons to leave.) If they end up picking a fight with one of the bouncers, then the other bouncers get involved and the situation is eventually taken care of. Several of the police usually sit in their squad vehicles across the street. They sometimes walk around the club and sometimes go inside, but that's only to ease any tension and to check for underage drinkers.

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    completely, 9 times out of ten most punters back down ( and don't have to lose face by fighting whoever they had a issue with, where they may loose..) when a bouncer steps in, and you have plenty of backup a button press away on the radio. I'm guessing things must work slightly differently over here, as the police tend not to be involved so much and are fairly good about letting us deal with things as we see fit within reason.

    do bare in mind, although I'm sure you know, size isn't everything. boxers tend to be the worst for kicking off quickly and efficiently and come in small packages over here its nice to have some big bruisers on the front door thou so ppl don't get ideas.

    by no means saying you don't know what your doing, I'm sure you do, or you wouldn't get offered work, and enjoy the job, its usually getting paid well for standing around chatting ( with eyes open of course!)

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    Damn I wanna be a bouncer. I gotta get bigger!!!

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    It depends if you want to just be intimidating 'looking' or actually have some skill that makes you intimidating.

    Rodja doesn't look huge (no offense Rodja, that's not what your training for anyways), but I have no doubt he would destroy some huge bouncer with no MMA skills.

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