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    Question growth plateau?


    or the past 8 months my training split has looked something like this

    day 1 chest
    d2 back
    d3 shoulders/trapps
    d4 legs
    d5 arms
    d6 and 7 rest
    i do this for 3-4 weeks then i switch to this split

    d1 chest/back/light bis
    d2 shoulders/trapps/tris
    d3 legs
    d4 rest
    repeatd1-3

    i always mix up my routines, intensity, rep/set volume, and weight. i am a personal trainer and so is my workout partner.
    through this i have had some great gains in my legs, back shoulders, and chest, but my arms are not growing. they are getting stronger but not and bigger.

    my question is does anyone have a training split that focuses on extra growth in the arms? or suggestions for my two splits?

    thanks

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    Change your rep scheme to a TUT plan with a 4/0/2 cadence. You could also try changing your program to something more simple like a 5x5 plan.
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    What's your rep range for your arms? It's possible for a body part to get stronger but not bigger. Different rep ranges (volume intensity) will have a predominant effect on either hypertrophy or neural adaption. Neural adaption(s) such as increased firing rate of neurotransmitters (acetylcholine), increased muscle recruitment (greater quantity of excitement of muscle fibers per motor unit), hypertrophy at the t-tubules (resulting in greater release of calcium, therefore more powerful contraction per action), all these neural adaption(s) will effect strength without involving the addition of muscle.

    It's the T.U.T. principle (time under tension). Muscle hypertrophy repsonds best to 8-12 reps, at 65-75% of 1RM. Muscle Strength resonds best at 4-6 reps, at 80-85% of 1RM. (and Power, 1-2 reps at 90-95% of 1RM).

    Volume intensity consists of total sets x reps. I saw your exercises in terms of muscle group, but how many total exercises, total sets and reps are you doing for your arms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsbro21 View Post
    or the past 8 months my training split has looked something like this

    day 1 chest
    d2 back
    d3 shoulders/trapps
    d4 legs
    d5 arms
    d6 and 7 rest
    i do this for 3-4 weeks then i switch to this split

    d1 chest/back/light bis
    d2 shoulders/trapps/tris
    d3 legs
    d4 rest
    repeatd1-3

    i always mix up my routines, intensity, rep/set volume, and weight. i am a personal trainer and so is my workout partner.
    through this i have had some great gains in my legs, back shoulders, and chest, but my arms are not growing. they are getting stronger but not and bigger.

    my question is does anyone have a training split that focuses on extra growth in the arms? or suggestions for my two splits?

    thanks
    Whatever needs brought up needs worked twice a week. Hit a few sets of arms on back or chest day. Nothing major, just an exercise or two for each, bis & tris. Triple drops and triple ascentions brought up my arms quite nicely.
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    i usually mix up my arm routine and never do the same exercises.
    but its something along the lines of...
    first split
    arm day
    strait bar press down- warm up sets of 30 then 15, then 4 working sets of 8-10, at a tut of 2/1/3
    over head tri ext- 3-4 sets of 8-10 tut of 1/0/3
    cable or dumb bell kick backs- 3 sets of 12, tut 1/1/2
    i also mix in close grip bench, and scull crushers, and do different variations of over head ext, and press downs, reverse pressdowns. i also mix up the order of exercises. i seriously doubt we've ever done the same routine before.
    after tris on arm day my bi routine looks something like this
    barbell curl- warm up of 15-20 then 4 working sets of 7-8 reps, tut 2/2/3
    incline dumbbell curl- 4 sets of 8-10 reps, tut 2/2/3
    cable curl- 3 sets of 10, tut 2/3/4
    other exercises i use to mix it up with is, preacher machine/ez-bar, standing ez-bar curl, concentration curl.

    on the second split first bi work out of the week is kept kind of light
    3 sets of preacher 8-10 reps 2/2/4
    2 sets of reverse ez-bar curl, 10 reps 1/0/3

    second bi work out of the week is a lil more intense
    barbell 4 sets of 8 tut 1/1/3

    hope this helps
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    hammer 3 sets of 10 tut 2/0/2
    incline 2 sets of 10 tut 1/2/3
    cable 1 set of 12 tut 1/1/2 (usually a burn out set)

    first tri work out of the week
    close grip bench 4 of 10 2/1/3
    press down 4 of 10 2/1/2
    second tri work out
    close grip bench 4 of 10 3/1/2
    scull crushers 3 of 8-10 1/2/3
    over head rope ext 2 of 12 1/2/3
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    You need to increase the time on the eccentric phase of the lift. This is the phase where the micortrauma occurs. Based off what you've written, I would suggest a good reassessment of your order. For triceps, you should start with CG because it will place the most overload on the tricep. Also, directly working your arms 2x/wk for an extended period of time is not a good idea. They get a large amount of stress form the other parts of your training. Perhaps a decrease in volume and an increase an intensity a la DC training would be a good idea.
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    what do you mean by "DC" training?
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