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The studies are not made up but are often done in support of the method in which is being studied. The reality is studies prove nothing, as I can found countless studies by well renowned strength coaches and exercise scientists which support the notion that plyometrics flys in the face of the principle of specificity a well documented and accepted principle of exercise science, not to mention the increased risk of injury through high rates of force
SO THEN DON'T YOU THINK I CAN ALSO FIND STUDIES THAT REFUTE THE PRINCIPLE OF SPECIFICITY. WHICH I WON’T DO AS I BELIEVE IN THIS PRINCIPLE, JUST NOT YOUR EXTREMELY NARROW VIEW OF IT.
SINCE YOU THINK PLYOMETRICS FLYS IN THE FACE OF SPECIFICITY AND HAS NO CARRYOVER TO SPORTS, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IN WEIGHT LIFTING AT ALL. BY YOUR LOGIC, EVEN WEIGHT LIFTING HAS NOTHING SPECIFIC TO ATHLETICS OUTSIDE OF THE WEIGHT ROOM. AGAIN, BY YOUR DEFINITION OF SPORTS SPECIFICITY, FOOTBALL PLAYERS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE DOING SQUATS, SINCE THEY DON’T DO SQUATS ON THE FIELD, THERE’S NOTHING SPORTS SPECIFIC ABOUT THEM, RIGHT?
If indeed Dr Donald Chu promotes the principle of plyometrics and "explosive" strength then yes he is wrong and indeed knows nothing of value regarding exercise science.
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS?
As is the law of identity, A can only be A, and nothing else, therefore strength is strength, it is not made up of different entities which must be trained separately.
SO THE STRENGTH A MARATHONER IS THE SAME THING AS THE STRENGTH AN OLYMPIC SPRINTER HAS? STRENGTH IS STRENGTH…IS THAT RIGHT. WHERE DO YOU GET THESE IDEAS FROM??
As I stated and which you STILL haven't answered, if lifting weights fast makes you faster, then lifting without weights would make you even faster, and lifting with weights slowly will therefore (based on your logic and the logic of plyometrics) make you slower? Nothing else is possible, as per the law of identity. Follow me so far? Good, then explain to me then how this is physiologically possible? is there then such a thing as "slow speed" strength, as there is "explosive" strength?
I'M NOT ADVOCATING LIFTING WEIGHTS FAST, BUT DOING SOME LIFTS IN AN EXPLOSIVE FASSION, LIKE POWERCLEANS. THERE REALLY IS NO WAY TO DO THEM SLOW NOW IS THERE?? ARE YOU NOW GOING TO TELL ME THAT OLYMPIC WEIGHT LIFTERS DO NOT HAVE ANY EXPLOSIVE STRENGTH?? THAT THEIR TRAINING HAS NOT IMPROVED THEIR ABILITY TO PRODUCE FORCE BETTER THAN SOMEONE UNTRAINED, OR SOMEONE LIKE A MARATHON RUNNER. SINCE THESE THINGS AREN'T SPECIFIC, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER HOW THEY TRAIN, RIGHT? ISN'T THAT YOUR LOGIC?? OLYMPIC WEIGHT LIFTERS WOULD DO JUST AS GOOD BY RIDING A BIKE RIGHT…AFTERALL, STRENGTH IS STRENGTH.
YOU ASK ABOUT LIFTING WITHOUT WEIGHTS MAKING YOU FASTER. YES, IT CAN, DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT, WHICH I’M SURE YOU WILL TWIST AROUND. IT’S TRAINING CALLED “OVERSPEED TRAINING”. IT ALLOWS THE ATHLETE TO MOVE HIS/HER LIMBS THROUGH THEIR RANGE OF MOTION FASTER THAN THEY COULD ON THEIR OWN. THIS IS DONE BY PULLING THEM WITH A ROPE AS THEY SPRINT (THERE ARE ALSO TREADMILLS DESIGNED TO DO THIS), AGAIN, ALLOWING THEM TO MOVE THROUGH THEIR RANGE OF MOTION AND TRAIN THE NERVE AND MUCSCLE TO FIRE FASTER, WHICH LEADS TO GREATER SPEED. BUT YOU’D TRAIN A SPRINTER BY HAVING THEM JOG, WOULDN’T YOU? AS PER YOUR LOGIC, IT DOESN’T MATTER, STRENGTH IS STRENGTH.
BY SAYING LIFTING WEIGHTS SLOWLY IS TAKING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT. LIFTING WEIGHTS IN AN EXPLOSIVE FASHION (POWER CLEANS) WILL MAKE YOU FASTER, DOING POWER CLEANS SLOWLY WILL NOT MAKE YOU FASTER...PERIOD! YOU CAN’T DO A POWERCLEAN SLOWLY, IF YOU CAN, I’D LOVE TO SEE IT. LIFTING A VERY HEAVY WEIGHT SLOWLY WILL STILL MAKE YOU FASTER AS IT RECRUITS THE FAST TWITCH FIBERS YOU NEED TO MOVE FAST, THE VERY SAME ONES. DOING LIGHT WEIGHTS SLOWLY WILL NOT MAKE YOU SLOWER (DUH), BUT IT CERTAINLY WON'T MAKE YOU FASTER. BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN’T MATTER, STRENGTH IS STRENGTH, RIGHT? YOUR LOGIC.
What about "intermediate" speed strength? I could think of endless variations of the concept of strength does each and every one have to trained separately?
WHAT????? ENDLESS VARIATIONS OF STRENGTH…MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
DIDN’T YOU JUST SAY THIS, IN THIS VERY POST: “As is the law of identity, A can only be A, and nothing else, therefore strength is strength, it is not made up of different entities which must be trained separately.”
IN ONE PARAGRAPH YOU SAY THAT STRENGTH IS STRENGTH, THEN A FEW PARAGRAPHS LATER YOU SAY THERE ARE ENDLESS VARIATIONS OF STRENGTH. WELL WHICH IS IT?? YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOURSELF BIG TIME? IS STRENGTH, STRENGTH, OR ARE THERE ENDLESS VARIATIONS???
WHY AM I EVEN DEBATING WITH YOU ANY FURTHER??
Explosive strength or more correctly the ability to recruit a large percentage of your available muscle fibers (neurological efficiency) is determined at birth and CANNOT be changed through exercise. People who are explosive, are born that way...period.
ARE YOU SAYING SOMEBODY BORN WITH A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF FAST TWITCH FIBERS BUT HAVING NEVER DONE ANY TRAINING WILL STILL BE JUST AS FAST AS A TRAINIED OLYMPIC SPRINTER THAT WAS ALSO BORN WITH THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF FAST TWITCH FIBERS? SINCE YOU’RE BORN WITH THIS ABILITY, WHY DO ANY TRAINING AT ALL? JUST SHOW UP TO THE OLYMPIC TRIALS AND YOU’LL BE GOOD TO GO. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE THAT FAST TWITCH FIBERS CANNOT BE TRAINED?
edit: THE AVERAGE UNTRAINED PERSON MAY BE ABLE TO ONLY RECRUIT 50% OF THEIR AVAILABLE FIBERS IN ANY ONE REP MAX. A HIGHLY TRAINED INDIVIDUAL MAY BE ABLE TO RECRUIT 60%, 70%, OR EVEN 80% OF AVAILABLE MUSCLE FIBERS IN A ONE REP MAX. THIS IS A TRAINING RESPONSE, AND COMES FROM NOTHING ELSE. IT'S A TRAINING RESPONSE THAT WILL INCREASE YOR FORCE OTPUT. WE CAN'T RECRUIT 100% OF THE FIBERS AS THE MUSCLE WOULD TEAR OF THE BONE, IT'S A PROTECTIVE MECHANISM. THE ONLY THING GENETIC IS THE PERCENTAGE OF FIBER DISPLACEMENT WE'RE BORN WITH. TRAINING ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT MORE OF THE FIBERS WE HAVE. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS???
But hey, we have nothing to talk about right? As you have yet to answer or challenge any of my questions, now I wonder why that is.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
NOW MAKE UP YOUR MIND, IS STRENGTH, STRENGTH OR ARE THERE ENDLESS VARIATIONS AND HOW YOU TRAIN DOESN’T MATTER. SINCE YOU LIKE CHALLENGES…