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  1. How is BoBo different from SHOT on bb.com


    I need some convincing other than just members saying he is good...Damn look at all the people who jumped on with SHOT saying he is a GOD and his workout/diet is the best...then the **** hit the fan. Can you post a sample w/o or diet plan to get an idea of what I would be getting for the money. Just seems like a scam to me...for $300 for some email from a trainer..need more convincing than that. Hell some of the better strength coaches charge less than that for 6 months of personal training.


  2. Well you actually talk to him on the phone too I believe. He has his own website with it. Pay with a credit card, that way if money is stolen you can report it and get your money back. There you go, what more could you want?

  3. Are you serious, did you post some stuff earlier this year, questioning Bobo's worth. WHat the hell is wrong with people? One can spend that much on 4 week cycle and still wont get the results of 90 days of drug free training from Bobo. keep seraching and you will see his worth is more than 300.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by hardlyworkin
    I need some convincing other than just members saying he is good...Damn look at all the people who jumped on with SHOT saying he is a GOD and his workout/diet is the best...then the **** hit the fan. Can you post a sample w/o or diet plan to get an idea of what I would be getting for the money. Just seems like a scam to me...for $300 for some email from a trainer..need more convincing than that. Hell some of the better strength coaches charge less than that for 6 months of personal training.
    This question has been asked before... If you really want to know what he can offer it might be beneficial to call him and have a conversation with him. I have yet to see a bad review from a customer of his, they are all over the board.
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    I'm on his bulking program now, and I've lost fat while increasing strength/muscle all on eating 4000+ cals per day. He is very understanding, easy to reach, and is prompt with answering questions. Well worth it if you ask me and the hordes of others that have used his services.

  6. And no, no one is going to give you a sample routine.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    And no, no one is going to give you a sample routine.
    Yeah man, I don't think anybody is going to give up the farm because you are skeptical..I have never used Bobo's services but it is as simple as looking up all his posts and crossreferencing them on pubmed.com or the like...All his stuff I have seen has been sound advice, and if that isn't enough maybe the majority of board moderators and veteran board members advertising his services as their signature is..

  8. I believe I'm 32. He wasn't. I will give you your money back if you don't like your results at the end. I am a legimiate corporation with an actual secure connection when you order. My taxes are filed as a business. I have a couple attorney's that work for me and other company's that I own.

    The bulk worht of my program is what happens after you get the program. 90% of clients will stall in the first 2 weeks so what I hand out intially becomes worthless. A training program is beneficial when the trainer makes changes. Other than its nothing but a template that will be worthless with time.


    And I am not a strengh coach. I am a trainer who writes out a plan for you that constantly changes based on your results.

    Trainers down here generally charge $80-100/hour.


    And if you need convincing, then I won't do it. I'm sure you could find a program if you dug hard enough. They have been passed around and they think I don't know about it. But its amzaing what you can do with pdf's these days....
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  9. The clown has spoken

  10. LOL I am suprised no one mentioned this before.


    SHOT:

    Was a scammer, took people's money and gave them the same program as everyone else. Or just took their money and gave them nothing but excuses about family members dying who really did not.


    Posted pictures which he called his own and turned out where not.

    Is now banned at every forum on the internet that I know of.


    Bobo already took care of what he does and why he is a GREAT choice.


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  11. Don't usually post in here, but to his credit, i don't recall ever seeing a post by anyone that hasn't been satisfied with the results of one of his programs.

    If someone feels they need the assistance/motivation, then $300 seems like money well spent to me.
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  12. I'm on the muscle build program as well. Just into week three of eight. This type of program (online) is best for me, as my work schedule doesn't allow me to see a trainer. The 300bones is a one time shot. The way I see it is I'll be able to use this program with a few tweaks for as long as I'm training. It's sorta like school. I'm paying for a course that will benefit me for sometime, ya can't go wrong with that.
    But that's just me.

  13. Hahaha he calls Bobo a scam, then at the end of the message says "Can you post a sample diet and workout routine." hahahaha That cracks me up for some reason .

    Heck if I were Bobo I wouldn't even train someone like him. Sounds way too much of a pain in the butt in my opinion.

    And as Bobo said, it costs like 75 bucks an hour for a meathead trainer to show you how to bench press in person.
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  14. Some people programs are real easy to deisgne because its seems that 75% of the clients are 6', 170lbs ectomorphs that train in the evening and use 100% Whey protein. Those guys are EASY to train as you long as you make the right adjustments. Serisouly, Optimum Nutrition has more 10lbs bags of protein out there than anyone I've seen. Its the guy that works nightshift and trains at different times each day or trians at differnt times on the weekend that are tough. Or the guy trhat travels 5 days a week.

    I've had guys that have postiive resuslts for 4-6 weeks before making changes. I've had guys that I've had to change diets every week. I've had to guys that I had to add a good 600-1000 calories over the first 2 weeks to FINALLY get them to grow. YOu never know how someone is going to react unless you set a reference point and work off of there. Its just really interesting to see how people react to certain diets and trianing routines.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD
    Hahaha he calls Bobo a scam, then at the end of the message says "Can you post a sample diet and workout routine." hahahaha That cracks me up for some reason .
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    I believe I'm 32. He wasn't. I will give you your money back if you don't like your results at the end. I am a legimiate corporation with an actual secure connection when you order. My taxes are filed as a business. I have a couple attorney's that work for me and other company's that I own.

    The bulk worht of my program is what happens after you get the program. 90% of clients will stall in the first 2 weeks so what I hand out intially becomes worthless. A training program is beneficial when the trainer makes changes. Other than its nothing but a template that will be worthless with time.


    And I am not a strengh coach. I am a trainer who writes out a plan for you that constantly changes based on your results.

    Trainers down here generally charge $80-100/hour.


    And if you need convincing, then I won't do it. I'm sure you could find a program if you dug hard enough. They have been passed around and they think I don't know about it. But its amzaing what you can do with pdf's these days....

  17. Well the reason I ask this because now is a time where you cant trust anyone. Even legit board members are turning sour. Let me ask this...how many of you have forked over your hard earned money for something that you haven't seen before. Thats why I wanted to see a sample w/o or diet. I didnt ask for one tailored to me since I am not looking for something for nuttin. I just wanna know what I paid for is worth it and not some cookie cutter program that any highschooler could come up with by reading a few message boards. Hey any of you guys stupid enough to buy something that is so top secret that no one is supposed to know about...well then I got some ocean front property in AZ that ill let go for real cheap.

    Anyway if the real beauty of his program is the tweaking that goes on...why be so secretive about the initial program???

  18. he's already offered a full refund back to whoever is not satisfied. i'm not seeing what more could be asked for.

    there's always one

  19. Quote Originally Posted by hardlyworkin
    Well the reason I ask this because now is a time where you cant trust anyone. Even legit board members are turning sour. Let me ask this...how many of you have forked over your hard earned money for something that you haven't seen before. Thats why I wanted to see a sample w/o or diet. I didnt ask for one tailored to me since I am not looking for something for nuttin. I just wanna know what I paid for is worth it and not some cookie cutter program that any highschooler could come up with by reading a few message boards. Hey any of you guys stupid enough to buy something that is so top secret that no one is supposed to know about...well then I got some ocean front property in AZ that ill let go for real cheap.

    Anyway if the real beauty of his program is the tweaking that goes on...why be so secretive about the initial program???

    If a highschooler can make the changes I make and write the program, then good for him. Its not rocket science, its not a secret but its my business. If I allwoed people to post their diets I wouldn't have one as nobody would order. Only the people that do order know the results come fomr the changes over time or it would be nothing but a cookie cutter type program and people woulnd't get results. If thats what you want to think it is, go for it. Maybe instead of saying my business sounds like a scam while simply ignoring all the reuslts that have been posted, maybe you need to figure out why that DNP cycle didn't work for you.

    But maybe my cookie cutter program couldn't help you.



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  21. Hey,
    I had some things come up while on the bobo plan and he contacted me cause he noticed that I wasnt posting in the private forums anymore. I wasnt going to say anything cause it was my personal life that was interferring with my program. Bobo still offered a full refund. Give it a shot, I promise you wont be unsatisfied.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by hardlyworkin
    Let me ask this...how many of you have forked over your hard earned money for something that you haven't seen before. Thats why I wanted to see a sample w/o or diet.
    Are hundreds of raving positive testimonies not proof to you?

    I have not seen one bad or nuetral or even slightly happy review. All I have seen is people thrilled with the results that plan on using him again.
    And in the event that you are not pleased (everyone is unaware of this ever happening) he will give you your money back.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by hardlyworkin
    I need some convincing other than just members saying he is good...Damn look at all the people who jumped on with SHOT saying he is a GOD and his workout/diet is the best...then the **** hit the fan. Can you post a sample w/o or diet plan to get an idea of what I would be getting for the money. Just seems like a scam to me...for $300 for some email from a trainer..need more convincing than that. Hell some of the better strength coaches charge less than that for 6 months of personal training.
    Man, where are you getting coaches that costs less than $300 for 6 months? Even here in a small town, the trainers at the YMCA costs much more than that... so i assumed a real coach/trainer would be more.

  24. Well no I havent done that DNP cycle yet.....still doing research on it so I dunno if its gonna work or not.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by hardlyworkin
    Well no I havent done that DNP cycle yet.....still doing research on it so I dunno if its gonna work or not.
    Are those pics of you that bobo posted. If so a DNP cycle would be kind of a bad idea. Not trying to be a dickhead but your too small to go with such a drastic weight loss drug, you don't want to look anorexic do you. Stick with eca and a good diet. Better yet drop the eca and hire Bobo.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by max-rot98
    Are those pics of you that bobo posted. If so a DNP cycle would be kind of a bad idea. Not trying to be a dickhead but your too small to go with such a drastic weight loss drug, you don't want to look anorexic do you. Stick with eca and a good diet. Better yet drop the eca and hire Bobo.

    No, thats a before and after of a client that dind't use anything. He cut down and he was beginning his bulk in those pics.
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  27. Good. I thought he was kind of too lean to be using DNP.

  28. Hmm...

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    Connect the dots! If he was scaming would he still be here after all this time?

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  29. As a personal trainer I've actually been tempted to sign up with Bobo simply because it seems as though I might be able to learn something from him, perhaps the kind of thing that one only gets from years of experience. And Bobo being 10 years my senior has got that for sure. One really cannot deny all the positive feedback of his training systems.

    If Bobo happens to have some secret method for insomniacs though, I'm in.

    This may be OT, but Bobo, you wouldn't happen to offer business and health/fitness training for those who are already trainers would you? This business part is killing me.
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  30. Just an FYI, SHOT was a member at bb.com longer than bobo has been a member here....look what happened.....
    Oh and thanks for the negative reps...... at least you guys dont ban members for questioning our admins..... or is that comming next if I raise too much suspicion?

  31. Bobo is the real deal.

    When we first had his FLA Nutrition program come online here to AM I was one of the first to sign up. I did the 8 week muscle building program. That was over a year ago, and I am still following his meal plan framework (with some adjustments of course since I have grown). Why would I subject myself to eating the exact same types of food day in and day out for over a year? Because it works!

    I wish I had taken pictures before I started the program. I had just finished "cutting", but in reality I starved myself for a couple months and lost an embarassing amount of muscle. My strength was in the toilet. I had done a fairly decent job bulking up, but nutritional knowledge really comes in to play when dieting down, and it was quite clear I had zero. Starting Bobo's program I felt a night and day difference. I was able to gain back much of my lost strength and muscle, without packing on lots of flab. Seriously, I had no idea how powerful food was until I did Bobo's program. It is a lesson that stuck and has served me well.

  32. Quote Originally Posted by hardlyworkin
    Just an FYI, SHOT was a member at bb.com longer than bobo has been a member here....look what happened.....
    Oh and thanks for the negative reps...... at least you guys dont ban members for questioning our admins..... or is that comming next if I raise too much suspicion?

    trust me you won't raise too much suspicion ... you won't raise ANY suspicion .. there is absolutely no reason to be suspicious of bobo at all .. i've used him and was probably some of the best money i've ever spent as countless other people will tell you

    just because some schmuck ripped people off doesn't mean everyone will and with all the positive feedback bobo has gotten without one shred of negative commentary (aside from the fact that he's kinda grumpy sometimes haha) i can't understand where on earth you get off questioning him and his services

  33. i've already spent $550 w/ Bobo and I am quite happy w/ my results, although I wish he didn't use so much fiber in his diets because my back end is getting a little raw .



    PS, those pics that Bobo posted are mine so feel free to tell me how good I look...lol.

  34. Quote Originally Posted by hardlyworkin
    Just an FYI, SHOT was a member at bb.com longer than bobo has been a member here....look what happened.....
    Oh and thanks for the negative reps...... at least you guys dont ban members for questioning our admins..... or is that comming next if I raise too much suspicion?

    I've been a member longer at bb.com than SHOT was.

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  35. LMFAO at this thread...

    Fool, it's Bobo, he's a clown, of course he's not a scam, hes huge and smart.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    (aside from the fact that he's kinda grumpy sometimes haha) i can't understand where on earth you get off questioning him and his services
    Now you know why

    Nothing like someone saying your business looks like a scam to perk you up in the morning.
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  37. I have never seen a Bobo plan, nor have I ever used one. But I have been following some of his pearls of wisdom since joining here three years ago. I think were Bobo really excels is his knowledge of nutrition. Let me give you an example. Before coming this board I would have never thought to use oats at anytime during my meals. Now I do. And I feel better.
    But to put this in perspective. I have hired two other online trainers. I was disappointed in one totally and the second was good in terms of training but his diet wasn't for me. The first one I was on for seven weeks (cutting diet) and I lost only 1.5 inches of my waist. Seven weeks. I did the lifting and the cardio and followed the diet and all I lost was 1.5 inches. Totally sucked.
    And I swore that I would never hire another trainer, unless I totally trusted them. I would hire Bobo.

  38. My results:

    begining stats:
    weight: 172
    arms: 15 3/4"
    chest: 39"
    legs: 23"
    Waist: 31 1/2"

    Ending 8 weeks stats:
    Weight: 179 (up 7lbs)
    arms: 16" (up 1/4")
    Chest: 40 1/2" (up 1 1/2")
    Legs: 23 1/2" (up 1/2")
    Waist: 32 1/4" (up 3/4")

    still using the same plan and after week 9 up to 180lbs.

  39. Just to throw in my 2 cents. I'm just getting started training at one of the Y's where I live, and we charge $45 per hour. Granted I don't see all of that, but I have very little exp. In fact I wanna hit up Clowine when I get some $$.
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  40. HLW,

    From your title I can see you haven't paid any attention here.
    It is one thing to ask "Why should I use Bobo?" I am sure you looked through the FLA forum and found the pictorial thread of befores and afters I asked for. I am sure you looked at all the Q & A going on and the the depth of info on the surface you were allowed to see.

    Your question reads" How was Martin Luther King Jr different from Hitler?" (Just an example, no specifics being cited) Yes they were both world leaders, yes they had big followings. But your initial question screamed blatant ignorance.

    We do not tolerate ignorance here well. " Bobo, why should I use your plan? Somebody tell me Bobo sucks. Who followed his plan and failed?" Any of those could have been great threads for you.

    Not comparing doo-doo to filet mignon.

    I haven't visited BB.com in months and feel better everyday.

    Rethink your question if you want props dude.

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