How is BoBo different from SHOT on bb.com

[hardlyworkin]

I need some convincing other than just members saying he is good...Damn look at all the people who jumped on with SHOT saying he is a GOD and his workout/diet is the best...then the **** hit the fan. Can you post a sample w/o or diet plan to get an idea of what I would be getting for the money. Just seems like a scam to me...for $300 for some email from a trainer..need more convincing than that. Hell some of the better strength coaches charge less than that for 6 months of personal training.

[snakebyte05]

Well you actually talk to him on the phone too I believe. He has his own website with it. Pay with a credit card, that way if money is stolen you can report it and get your money back. There you go, what more could you want?

[Apowerz6]

Are you serious, did you post some stuff earlier this year, questioning Bobo's worth. WHat the hell is wrong with people? One can spend that much on 4 week cycle and still wont get the results of 90 days of drug free training from Bobo. keep seraching and you will see his worth is more than 300.

[canadian champ]

I need some convincing other than just members saying he is good...Damn look at all the people who jumped on with SHOT saying he is a GOD and his workout/diet is the best...then the **** hit the fan. Can you post a sample w/o or diet plan to get an idea of what I would be getting for the money. Just seems like a scam to me...for $300 for some email from a trainer..need more convincing than that. Hell some of the better strength coaches charge less than that for 6 months of personal training.

This question has been asked before... If you really want to know what he can offer it might be beneficial to call him and have a conversation with him. I have yet to see a bad review from a customer of his, they are all over the board.
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[tattoopierced1]

I'm on his bulking program now, and I've lost fat while increasing strength/muscle all on eating 4000+ cals per day. He is very understanding, easy to reach, and is prompt with answering questions. Well worth it if you ask me and the hordes of others that have used his services.

[bioman]

And no, no one is going to give you a sample routine.

[Mulletsoldier]

And no, no one is going to give you a sample routine.

Yeah man, I don't think anybody is going to give up the farm because you are skeptical..I have never used Bobo's services but it is as simple as looking up all his posts and crossreferencing them on pubmed.com or the like...All his stuff I have seen has been sound advice, and if that isn't enough maybe the majority of board moderators and veteran board members advertising his services as their signature is..

[Dwight Schrute]

I believe I'm 32. He wasn't. I will give you your money back if you don't like your results at the end. I am a legimiate corporation with an actual secure connection when you order. My taxes are filed as a business. I have a couple attorney's that work for me and other company's that I own.

The bulk worht of my program is what happens after you get the program. 90% of clients will stall in the first 2 weeks so what I hand out intially becomes worthless. A training program is beneficial when the trainer makes changes. Other than its nothing but a template that will be worthless with time.


And I am not a strengh coach. I am a trainer who writes out a plan for you that constantly changes based on your results.

Trainers down here generally charge $80-100/hour.


And if you need convincing, then I won't do it. I'm sure you could find a program if you dug hard enough. They have been passed around and they think I don't know about it. But its amzaing what you can do with pdf's these days....

[Apowerz6]

The clown has spoken

[CROWLER]

LOL I am suprised no one mentioned this before.


SHOT:

Was a scammer, took people's money and gave them the same program as everyone else. Or just took their money and gave them nothing but excuses about family members dying who really did not.


Posted pictures which he called his own and turned out where not.

Is now banned at every forum on the internet that I know of.


Bobo already took care of what he does and why he is a GREAT choice.


CROWLER

[Robboe]

Don't usually post in here, but to his credit, i don't recall ever seeing a post by anyone that hasn't been satisfied with the results of one of his programs.

If someone feels they need the assistance/motivation, then $300 seems like money well spent to me.

[VAPOR]

I'm on the muscle build program as well. Just into week three of eight. This type of program (online) is best for me, as my work schedule doesn't allow me to see a trainer. The 300bones is a one time shot. The way I see it is I'll be able to use this program with a few tweaks for as long as I'm training. It's sorta like school. I'm paying for a course that will benefit me for sometime, ya can't go wrong with that.
But that's just me.

[LakeMountD]

Hahaha he calls Bobo a scam, then at the end of the message says "Can you post a sample diet and workout routine." hahahaha That cracks me up for some reason .

Heck if I were Bobo I wouldn't even train someone like him. Sounds way too much of a pain in the butt in my opinion.

And as Bobo said, it costs like 75 bucks an hour for a meathead trainer to show you how to bench press in person.

[Dwight Schrute]

Some people programs are real easy to deisgne because its seems that 75% of the clients are 6', 170lbs ectomorphs that train in the evening and use 100% Whey protein. Those guys are EASY to train as you long as you make the right adjustments. Serisouly, Optimum Nutrition has more 10lbs bags of protein out there than anyone I've seen. Its the guy that works nightshift and trains at different times each day or trians at differnt times on the weekend that are tough. Or the guy trhat travels 5 days a week.

I've had guys that have postiive resuslts for 4-6 weeks before making changes. I've had guys that I've had to change diets every week. I've had to guys that I had to add a good 600-1000 calories over the first 2 weeks to FINALLY get them to grow. YOu never know how someone is going to react unless you set a reference point and work off of there. Its just really interesting to see how people react to certain diets and trianing routines.

[Dwight Schrute]

Hahaha he calls Bobo a scam, then at the end of the message says "Can you post a sample diet and workout routine." hahahaha That cracks me up for some reason .

You're not the only one

[max-rot98]

I believe I'm 32. He wasn't. I will give you your money back if you don't like your results at the end. I am a legimiate corporation with an actual secure connection when you order. My taxes are filed as a business. I have a couple attorney's that work for me and other company's that I own.

The bulk worht of my program is what happens after you get the program. 90% of clients will stall in the first 2 weeks so what I hand out intially becomes worthless. A training program is beneficial when the trainer makes changes. Other than its nothing but a template that will be worthless with time.


And I am not a strengh coach. I am a trainer who writes out a plan for you that constantly changes based on your results.

Trainers down here generally charge $80-100/hour.


And if you need convincing, then I won't do it. I'm sure you could find a program if you dug hard enough. They have been passed around and they think I don't know about it. But its amzaing what you can do with pdf's these days....

[hardlyworkin]

Well the reason I ask this because now is a time where you cant trust anyone. Even legit board members are turning sour. Let me ask this...how many of you have forked over your hard earned money for something that you haven't seen before. Thats why I wanted to see a sample w/o or diet. I didnt ask for one tailored to me since I am not looking for something for nuttin. I just wanna know what I paid for is worth it and not some cookie cutter program that any highschooler could come up with by reading a few message boards. Hey any of you guys stupid enough to buy something that is so top secret that no one is supposed to know about...well then I got some ocean front property in AZ that ill let go for real cheap.

Anyway if the real beauty of his program is the tweaking that goes on...why be so secretive about the initial program???

[Beelzebub]

he's already offered a full refund back to whoever is not satisfied. i'm not seeing what more could be asked for.

there's always one

[Dwight Schrute]

Well the reason I ask this because now is a time where you cant trust anyone. Even legit board members are turning sour. Let me ask this...how many of you have forked over your hard earned money for something that you haven't seen before. Thats why I wanted to see a sample w/o or diet. I didnt ask for one tailored to me since I am not looking for something for nuttin. I just wanna know what I paid for is worth it and not some cookie cutter program that any highschooler could come up with by reading a few message boards. Hey any of you guys stupid enough to buy something that is so top secret that no one is supposed to know about...well then I got some ocean front property in AZ that ill let go for real cheap.

Anyway if the real beauty of his program is the tweaking that goes on...why be so secretive about the initial program???

If a highschooler can make the changes I make and write the program, then good for him. Its not rocket science, its not a secret but its my business. If I allwoed people to post their diets I wouldn't have one as nobody would order. Only the people that do order know the results come fomr the changes over time or it would be nothing but a cookie cutter type program and people woulnd't get results. If thats what you want to think it is, go for it. Maybe instead of saying my business sounds like a scam while simply ignoring all the reuslts that have been posted, maybe you need to figure out why that DNP cycle didn't work for you.

But maybe my cookie cutter program couldn't help you.



Recomendations on what to run while on DNP cutter

[Dwight Schrute]

Those are good cookies.