IRONMAN "HIT"

[quadzilla]

New to the board and would like the opinion of Bobo and other training experts about the IRONMAN HIGH INTENSITY training program everyone has been raving about over at PROFESSIONAL MUSCLE..

Would truly appreciate it..

[Tough Old Man]

Why don't you just try it for yourself and find out like I did.

[quadzilla]

Why don't you just try it for yourself and find out like I did.

And the answer would be?????

[Whiskey Steve]

Why don't you just try it for yourself and find out like I did.

Wtf.....
why should he have give a couple of months to a program before you will give him some feedback.

If that was how this board worked it wouldn't exist.

[Beelzebub]

heard good things about it. similar principles as DC training.

[natedogg]

I believe in trial and error. Why not give it a shot to see if you even like the program. I've tried several different programs only to give it up after the first week or so because I didn't like the setup or the way it "felt". If others are raving about it on another board give it a shot. What do you have to lose.

[Dwight Schrute]

*sigh*


I keep wondering why people think that a different "training" style is going to make THAT much of a difference and I SELL THEM!

[revodrew]

I paid good money for yours! I hope it does something!!

(yes i know diet is just as important!)

[Dwight Schrute]

Just as? Try 10x more.

Consistent progress is gained by constantly adpating to results. The program that I give you is only so good for a certain amount of time before it has to change based on your progress. If I could send you a package with information that would last forever it would be MUCH easier. Any program (diet/training) that doesn't consistently change is worthless for long term results IMO.

[quadzilla]

Wtf.....
why should he have give a couple of months to a program before you will give him some feedback.

If that was how this board worked it wouldn't exist.

Precisely...I'm asking a simple question here...

Rumor now has it this IRON MAN character has trained several professional's..

Anyone know if this is legit???

[Dwight Schrute]

So what?

Professionals are easy to train. Actually any competitor is easy to train.

[natedogg]

So Iron Man is a guy? I thought you were talking about the muscle rag. So you have to pay this guy? If I were to pay anyone to train me it would be Bobo. BTW, Bobo, what are your thoughts on Static Contraction? I happened to be bored this weekend and took a look at a book some guy I know had that covered the subject extensively. Apparently you can create an entire weight lifting program based on this principle alone. I've heard of lifting weights, but holding weights? It even had studies showing significant results in subjects who only worked out on average, 1 to 2 times per week. What's up?

[natedogg]

*sigh*


I keep wondering why people think that a different "training" style is going to make THAT much of a difference and I SELL THEM!

I don't think any one training program will make me grow any faster per say. I do think I will grow at a faster rate if I happen to enjoy the program I use. It just so happens that I enjoy training using "DC" more so than any other program I have used. I have also noticed the best results when using "DC". Make sense? If I did have the money though, I would be happy to hire you as a trainer for a few months. I could stand to learn a few things from someone who knows a whole lot.

[Dwight Schrute]

Nothing new at all. It just focuses on increasing ECC times. It works to a point but you are eliminating much of the flexbility of the program by eliminating the CON movement (along with eliminating some benefits). Will it help you grow? Yes. Is it optimal for growth? Not even close.

This was a rage about a year ago as many Hollywood types were swearing by it. That should tell you right there

[Dwight Schrute]

I don't think any one training program will make me grow any faster per say. I do think I will grow at a faster rate if I happen to enjoy the program I use. It just so happens that I enjoy training using "DC" more so than any other program I have used. I have also noticed the best results when using "DC". Make sense? If I did have the money though, I would be happy to hire you as a trainer for a few months. I could stand to learn a few things from someone who knows a whole lot.

I find this scenario a lot. Switching to any organized and scheduled program generally gives one the "best" results because their former training was probably lacking.

Any program that is based on increasing ECC times is generally benficial because almost 99% of the people in various gyms don't perform exercises properly and take the amount of time needed to perform the rep. Slow them down, increase ECC times and their results will flourish. Its not rocket science. Its just funny that someone named it.

[natedogg]

Nothing new at all. It just focuses on increasing ECC times. It works to a point but you are eliminating much of the flexbility of the program by eliminating the CON movement (along with eliminating some benefits). Will it help you grow? Yes. Is it optimal for growth? Not even close.

This was a rage about a year ago as many Hollywood types were swearing by it. That should tell you right there

Where have I been.

I've heard of it, but not as in the sense as being used as an entire workout program. If I did it, It would only be for a short period of time and just for the hell of it.

[Dwight Schrute]

BTW, Bobo, what are your thoughts on Static Contraction? I happened to be bored this weekend and took a look at a book some guy I know had that covered the subject extensively. Apparently you can create an entire weight lifting program based on this principle alone. I've heard of lifting weights, but holding weights? It even had studies showing significant results in subjects who only worked out on average, 1 to 2 times per week. What's up?

Ask DieTrying about isometrics. He's probably convered that by now.


Its another examples of what you learn when you actually study this area formally. But some people frown upon that...

[natedogg]

I find this scenario a lot. Switching to any organized and scheduled program generally gives one the "best" results because their former training was probably lacking.

Any program that is based on increasing ECC times is generally benficial because almost 99% of the people in various gyms don't perform exercises properly and take the amount of time needed to perform the rep. Slow them down, increase ECC times and their results will flourish. Its not rocket science. Its just funny that someone named it.

Kinda wish I had someone like you to train/mentor me 6+ years ago. Not that I'm lacking in the muscular department, but I could definately use some of that knowledge you hold in that noggin of yours. I've always had to find **** out on my own through trial and error and just overall experience. I'm sure I would be further ahead than I am now. It has been fun though.

[Dwight Schrute]

Take college courses. You will seriously figure out that out some of the "advanced" training program you read about on the net are taken out of Chapter 1 of various textbooks.

Here an example. Chapter 1 of a text that I've had for 4 years lists "Periodization", "Porgressive Overload", "Isometrics" (what you described above), "Isotonic", etc....the list goes on....


...but when you read it on the internet they will amke it sound like its some advanced technique. Hardly.....

[Dwight Schrute]

The bottom line is they all work to a point. There isn't one that is THAT much better than the others. THe most important aspect is diet....That is what bulks you up and that is what cuts you down.