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    Im sorry if this offends anyone (it is NOT meant to) but it seems like the price for Bobo's plans are a little steep. I don't know if this has been brought up before in a thread (haven't found it in a search) but I was just too curious to not ask. Anyways, I hear a ton of great feedback on the benefits of his programs (actually, i haven't heard any negative feedback) but do these benefits outweigh the cost? Just wanting to hear from people who have been with Bobo. Thanks guys!

    (And Bobo, no offense to you as we all know people respect you and your programs around here.)

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    I haven't "been with Bobo". But one thing that I can contribute is this

    1) If you have never been through a program with an educated trainer/dietician, then it is worth the money.....why? Because you are getting an education. You can use this info for life.

    2) If you HAVE been through a program, it is extremely convenient to have someone write out your protocol, monitor your results, and make changes. When you get busy, you get sloppy. If you have ever writted diets and training programs for others, you definitely know how much time is involved (plus dealing with whiners).

    3) If you are preparing for a contest, most people are not mentally stable enough to make rational decisions with respect to diet and training during those last few weeks. It's nice to have someone knowledgeable enough to make the progressive (suttle) changes along the way and give an outside view as to how your physique is looking.
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    i'm working with him right now on the weight loss program.i'm 4 weeks into it,and so far,the results i've seen are unbelievable,and its all just diet,and training.if you can afford it,i advise you to sign up with him whenever possible.honestly its a no-brainer if you can spare the cash.i've spent more money on food and supplements in the past on my own than i have on his program,and seen far better results working with him.
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    Considering the breadth of the services he offers in one package, the way his customers rave about him, and the professionalism he's exhibited in dealing with them...I think his services are a downright steal.

    I won't lie...I thought the whole concept of someone you've never met training you was a bit silly at first. At the very least, sort of an ineffective way to pursue a means to an end. But, the results being seen are amazing. Go look at one of the more recent picture posts...the 8 week cutting plan that dude paid for. Worth every damn penny in the results.
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    for the results u get, his prices are cheap!
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    Worth every penny, I've been working with him for the past 12 weeks and the results are phenominal.
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    His prices definitely aren't high by any means...
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    Quote Originally Posted by builtolast
    Im sorry if this offends anyone (it is NOT meant to) but it seems like the price for Bobo's plans are a little steep. I don't know if this has been brought up before in a thread (haven't found it in a search) but I was just too curious to not ask. Anyways, I hear a ton of great feedback on the benefits of his programs (actually, i haven't heard any negative feedback) but do these benefits outweigh the cost? Just wanting to hear from people who have been with Bobo. Thanks guys!

    (And Bobo, no offense to you as we all know people respect you and your programs around here.)
    Bobo's prices are DIRT cheap. I want you to show me who is cheaper, and what do they offer. Bobo's program is a proven one that works. I've trained with a lot of people and paid way more than Bobo, the program you get via the internet is BETTER than most one on one trainers I've had. Plus you can take what you have learned and use it all the time. I'm shocked he doesn't charge more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bert4332
    Bobo's prices are DIRT cheap. I'm shocked he doesn't charge more.
    oh good one man! now he'll jack the prices!! dammit. lol, jk, please don't BOBO.
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    I haven't tried one of his programs but he's not cheap at all. A gym trainer charges $50 per session if you're lucky. At 4 sessions a week that's $200 for just one week. I'm also willing to bet Bobo will get you better results than the gym trainers. He tells you what to eat and what exercises you should do, you just do what he says and you'll be okay.
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    Okay IW using your numbers
    Bobo's is 8 weeks for the deluxe weight loss, so that would $1600 from a personal trainer at the gym.. and Bobo's is $300 even at $20 per session that would be $640... to me that seems to be alittle less expensive... cheap Nope, less expensive yes... sorry cheap to me inplies substandard..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
    I haven't tried one of his programs but he's not cheap at all. A gym trainer charges $50 per session if you're lucky. At 4 sessions a week that's $200 for just one week. I'm also willing to bet Bobo will get you better results than the gym trainers. He tells you what to eat and what exercises you should do, you just do what he says and you'll be okay.

    One thing to note is that most gym trainers will be there in person to train you...so they put in more time.

    However........I have yet to find one who knows jack **** about diet AND training. If you need someone standing there holding your hand (if you don't have self drive or are new to the gym), then by all means pay for the gym trainer (if you are lucky, you'll find an OK one). If you are already somewhat disciplined, then there is not doubt that someone like Bobo is the way to go. In fact, if I were new to the sport, I would do both so that I could become familiar with the equipment AND learn various training techniques as well as proper eating habits.
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    People spend twice as much money on supps and still don't get results you can get with Bobo without any supps. To me it's no brainer...
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    Jeez...the postage for all these checks I am sending out is costing me a fortune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Jeez...the postage for all these checks I am sending out is costing me a fortune

    Try online bill payment.....no postage necessary
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    I just finished the cutting plan. I honestly lost 30 lbs since 3-13-05. I started out at 220 lbs. and weigh 188-190. I fluctuate day to day. So, it was well worth the money. I have taken a ton of slack from my wife about being trained by someone over the internet. In fact, she thinks being trained is a waste of money. She goes to the gym 3-4 times a week, but does not get the results I think she could with proper training and diet. I worked out for 6 months religiously, 5-6 days a week and got a fat belly. I did get strong, but looked like ****. So, shell out the cash and get ready to surprise yourself. I just started the muscle building plan on Sunday, so we will see how I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew D
    cheap Nope, less expensive yes... sorry cheap to me inplies substandard..
    Very, very true. Good point.
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    I'm feeling pretty convinced. After boot camp (when I have some money) and....aww, shhooot....after SOI I'll put down the bucks...that is if im not DEAD by then....
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    I'm wondering what is so special about paying someone for info that is free if you do enough research on your own. I guess you're paying for convenience. Fitness specialists essentially consolidate all the info out there for you in one neat little package, and would therefore be beneficial for those who understand less about how to exercise and diet optimally.
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    I don't sell information.

    And I don't know too many fitness specialists that can get you into contest shape.....

    If people can do it on their own, more power to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowOne
    I'm wondering what is so special about paying someone for info that is free if you do enough research on your own. I guess you're paying for convenience. Fitness specialists essentially consolidate all the info out there for you in one neat little package, and would therefore be beneficial for those who understand less about how to exercise and diet optimally.
    IMO this is like saying why do you pay a guy to install a new transmission all the info is out there on the net.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER
    IMO this is like saying why do you pay a guy to install a new transmission all the info is out there on the net.



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    It is what I'm saying, actually. You can indeed install a new transmission if you take the time to learn it. Might take you some time to learn (just like learning how to optimize a strength training program to suit your goals/needs), or you can pay the money to someone who can do it for you.

    IMO, learning how to stay on top of your health and fitness is a lot easier than auto repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    I don't sell information.

    And I don't know too many fitness specialists that can get you into contest shape.....

    If people can do it on their own, more power to them.
    For contest prep, then I can understand the investment. But what % of your clients are competitive BB'ers, compared to the % of clients who are just trying to get rid of a beer gut?

    I checked your website. And unless I'm just not reading between the lines, you are simply selling info, are you not? "Recommendations for supplementation and muscle building agents" and "meal plans" are just pieces of paper, not workout partners or other hands-on services.

    I'm not trying to rag on your company, as you do provide valuble services to those who don't have the experience or research depth. But IMO, it's really not that hard to build a solid physique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowOne
    For contest prep, then I can understand the investment. But what % of your clients are competitive BB'ers, compared to the % of clients who are just trying to get rid of a beer gut?

    I checked your website. And unless I'm just not reading between the lines, you are simply selling info, are you not? "Recommendations for supplementation and muscle building agents" and "meal plans" are just pieces of paper, not workout partners or other hands-on services.

    I'm not trying to rag on your company, as you do provide valuble services to those who don't have the experience or research depth. But IMO, it's really not that hard to build a solid physique.
    I take it from your last sentance that YOU have build a solid physic???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowOne
    It is what I'm saying, actually. You can indeed install a new transmission if you take the time to learn it. Might take you some time to learn (just like learning how to optimize a strength training program to suit your goals/needs), or you can pay the money to someone who can do it for you.
    it could take years for you to learn how to fix your transmission,just like it takes years for you to nail down the diet that works best for you(at least for me and alot others i know).i rather nail it down it now,rather than waste my time,and for me,300 bucks is more than worth it.

    you sound like you got everything down,so it shouldnt matter to you that others choose to spend their money on a training program,especially with someone who knows what he's doing,and not some clown at a gym who charges you 1500 a month just to spot you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowOne
    For contest prep, then I can understand the investment. But what % of your clients are competitive BB'ers, compared to the % of clients who are just trying to get rid of a beer gut?

    I checked your website. And unless I'm just not reading between the lines, you are simply selling info, are you not? "Recommendations for supplementation and muscle building agents" and "meal plans" are just pieces of paper, not workout partners or other hands-on services.

    I'm not trying to rag on your company, as you do provide valuble services to those who don't have the experience or research depth. But IMO, it's really not that hard to build a solid physique.
    Actually the majority of my clients are bodybuilders looking for extreme results. I do have many clients just looking to cut up and put on some solid mass but I deal with all types of clients. Those with diabetes, hyper and hypothyroidsm, competitors, obese, etc....

    You don't know anything about the programs I design so you have no basis for your criticisms at all. I don't sell information as I plan out every meal and every caloriues and every rep for my client. I don't send them a piece of paper and tell them "here you go, thanks a lot". I make every change that keeps them getting optimal results. It constantly changes as should all programs. THe results come from constant manipulation, not some piece of paper. Everyone knows how to breakdown triglycerides and oxidizee FFA's but how many people can do that succesffuly for 16 weeks while gaining strenght at the same time? Not many.

    So if you don't know what is included in my programs, you don't have any basis for making the criticism that you do.

    Believe me, if I was worried about every 25 year USC student ragging on my company, I would have quit by now. For you to come in here and tell others its just information when you have never even seen one of my programs is quite ridiculous to me. Saying that my clients are doing it just for convenience and implying that they are not experienced or smart enough to figure it out for themsevles it quite insulting.

    See the problem with your arguement is that the majority of information on the net is 99% bull**** and marketing hype. MAny people fall for it as did I earlier in life. Only experience, education and time will weed out the misinformation and leave you with the truth. So if you want to do it that way, go for it. If not you can turn to someone that has already done it and they can point you in the right direction. As I've said all along one of my goals is for my clients to not need me anymore.

    So before you come in and make your judgements on my programs and telling people what is worth their money, maybe you can come in here and judge me by what I know.

    My programs aren't about information, they are about APPLYING information and weeding through the amount of bull**** that is posted ans "sold" to you as fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowOne
    It is what I'm saying, actually. You can indeed install a new transmission if you take the time to learn it. Might take you some time to learn (just like learning how to optimize a strength training program to suit your goals/needs), or you can pay the money to someone who can do it for you.

    IMO, learning how to stay on top of your health and fitness is a lot easier than auto repair.
    Sorry, physiology is a bit more complicated than auto repair.

    Maybe when you get through your 20's and witness the metabolic changes that occur do to aging you will understand that its not so easy. At 25, everything was easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builtolast
    Just wanting to hear from people who have been with Bobo. Thanks guys!
    This means if you haven't trained with me I don't need to hear your philosophy on the costs of education. Why go to school when you can learn everything in a library? Maybe we'll all be Will Hunting.
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