I started expanding the pull up portion of the workout to include neutral grip and normal narrow grip to the regular normal wide grip. I alternate rows with pull ups. Is there any benefit to continuing with pull downs?
I agree with this. I still do both because their similar but theres a difference in the motion.Pull-ups and pull downs might seem the same but the mechanics are different.
Pull-ups are the way to go. I do both but the pulldown's are at the end of my workout for a pump. Normally 15 to 20 reps on the pulldown's. I start with pull-ups doing an easy three sets of 10 to 12 to warm things up.
I used to do this. It works well if you can do pull ups. If you can only do 3 or 4 at a time I wouldn't recommend it. I'd only do this if you can finish at least 12 to 15 reps on your first set.You could go all out Arnold and start every back routine w 50 non weighted pull ups. Do as many as u can then rest. Repeat until u hit 50
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I never understand why people say which one? Both are good. Why not both? It's easy to incorporated both.
Pull down for me is good to super set with diff hand grips.
Pull ups is great. Can't never take that away period.
As long as you stimulate the muscle who cares how.many pull ups you can do.True
It's always amusing when someone can do heavy pull downs but can't do any pull-ups
Well it matters quite a bit if you are working out for more than just aestheticsAs long as you stimulate the muscle who cares how.many pull ups you can do.
I've never seen anyone not be able to do a pull up, if they are doing heavy pull downs.Well it matters quite a bit if you are working out for more than just aesthetics
Pretty sad if you workout but can't even pull your own body up
On another note if you can do all the pull downs in the world and if you suck at pull-ups then clearly you have a lot more muscles you need to start stimulating
I think pointing out what one pro does or does not do is pretty irrelevant for what is true in generalI've never seen anyone not be able to do a pull up, if they are doing heavy pull downs.
It is sad, but once again, who cares? Pros don't do pull ups, Dennis wolf uses the assisted pull up machines because its all about correct stimulation.
For example, I can dip with an added 2 plated but stimulate my chest better on assisted dips. So I do assisted dips. Why would I just do something if it doesn't add to my physique or training?
However, I do enjoy warming up with regular pull ups, but as a mass builder there are better options.
For shizLe, its to early to argue lol. Well one or many pros. But I'm sure they can do pull ups on their own.I think pointing out what one pro does or does not do is pretty irrelevant for what is true in general
There are plenty of people that can do pull downs but not pull-ups
There are plenty of pros that do pull-ups and are capable of doing pull-ups
Not trying to argue bud just saying for people in general pull downs only go so far and it's important to at least be able to do pull-ups because if you can't then you are probably training around some pretty glaring weaknesses which if not corrected can lead to injury when performing other exercises that may depend on those muscles
For shizLe, its to early to argue lol. Well one or many pros. But I'm sure they can do pull ups on their own.
Different stabilizers and smaller muscles are involved in the pull up versus the pull down.
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Lol that's because they use force and other body parts to assistTrue It's always amusing when someone can do heavy pull downs but can't do any pull-ups
It does matterAs long as you stimulate the muscle who cares how.many pull ups you can do.
Explain, seriously I want to know lolIt does matter
Simple.Explain, seriously I want to know lol
Smart man.I do seated pull downs wide grip 3 or 4 sets 8-12. 180,210,235 then light full range set. Seated rows close grip same weight and reps. Then standing db rows 110,115,120 Machine seated upright pulls 210 set of 10 with 4 count neg. Three sets Then seated one arm rows full range motion 110- 8-12 three sets. Weighted pull ups sound like a great idea. Thank s guys.
Maybe its because its 5am over here but I didn't understand that at all.Simple.
You stimulate 2 pull ups And I do 10 pull ups. Obviously correctly who will see better results?
Also tell me who will do any exercise and stimulate 3 reps of whatever? Of course more is better. Who will want to just stimulate a low rep?
Idk how this had to be explained.
Tell me what pro does less than 6 reps. Lol
Lol! The whole point was just stimulation is important but reps are important as well and does matterMaybe its because its 5am over here but I didn't understand that at all.
Lolol **** waking up for 4am for work. I understand what your saying, I never said just stimulation is important, obviously rep ranges are important lol.Lol! The whole point was just stimulation is important but reps are important as well and does matter
Lolol **** waking up for 4am for work. I understand what your saying, I never said just stimulation is important, obviously rep ranges are important lol. I also reread what you wrote just now, it makes sense ..yes I can comprehend information now!
Holy hell, were you a mailman or something? That's insane.Lmfao!! No worries brotha. I feel your pain. I used to work and wake up at 2:45am. Horrible
Lol nah. I worked in the city and to commute to work was a b!tch. Driving was expensive so mass transit was the only way. I worked in hospitality.Holy hell, were you a mailman or something? That's insane.
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