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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Took my morning inject in the butt, anyone whos used peptides maybe can anwser this; is it suppose to sting/burn for a few minutes after? Its annyoing.
    What's the concentration of alcohol in your bac water? Alcohol always stings in a cut...
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post

    What's the concentration of alcohol in your bac water? Alcohol always stings in a cut...
    I think its .9 not 100% though
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    I think its .9 not 100% though
    thought .6 was standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    I think its .9 not 100% though
    It's probably just the alcohol


    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    thought .6 was standard.

    Mines .8%. It's totally variable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    It's probably just the alcohol

    Mines .8%. It's totally variable.
    Thanks for the clarification.

    Update after second pin, literally took it 20mins ago with hup a (100mcg) 35mins prior to shot. Ive got lightheadedness, mild throbbing around my temple, slight pressure behind my eyes and nose with a slight tempeture increase.

    Another thing i forgot to mention, i slept decent last night and apparently i turned my alarm off this morning (i dont remember doing this) from what my wife told me.

    Will update as this stuff goes on lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    It's probably just the alcohol





    Mines .8%. It's totally variable.
    duely noted! live and learn
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    A bird told me you have a couple more packets of volatile on the way
    In the chance you find yourself inclined to send a few more samples out into some interested hands, I'd be way down to write a review of Volatile.

    Been interested in that ever since Caz had it near the beginning of the old log. Profile looks pump-tastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post
    I like both, ignite may be better and I only need one scoop verses volatile using 2. Volatile tastes much better. Ignite also gets better with time. I also think that volatile give more if a pump when ignite give more strength. it all depends on want your looking for. Not sure if I answer your question lol!!
    You did: I'd want them both, for different days and routines lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post

    In the chance you find yourself inclined to send a few more samples out into some interested hands, I'd be way down to write a review of Volatile.

    Been interested in that ever since Caz had it near the beginning of the old log. Profile looks pump-tastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post

    You did: I'd want them both, for different days and routines lol
    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Never did try this. Not a fan of nate though or his products lol

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    Definitely gonna be some great stuff going on here indeed, as always prob some of the best info posted around and mad interested to see whats up with those results.
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    Food today

    Bfast
    5oz honeysuckle turkey bfast sausage
    1 large egg
    10oz carbmaster milk

    Lunch
    5oz 85/15 ground turkey (red, yellow, green peppers and onion cooked in)
    1 slice borden pepperjack cheese

    Snack
    8oz carbmaster milk
    1 scoop pro

    Dinner
    6oz 93/7 ground turkey (red, yellow, green peppers and onion cooked in)
    1 slice borden pepperjack cheese
    Shredded lettuce on top

    Snack
    1c green bean chips (dehydrated, dried)

    *ate a whole can of blue diamond habanero bbq almonds, they were my snacks between meals

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    C-71g (fiber-20g)
    P-174g
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Food today

    Bfast
    5oz honeysuckle turkey bfast sausage
    1 large egg
    10oz carbmaster milk

    Lunch
    5oz 85/15 ground turkey (red, yellow, green peppers and onion cooked in)
    1 slice borden pepperjack cheese

    Snack
    8oz carbmaster milk
    1 scoop pro

    Dinner
    6oz 93/7 ground turkey (red, yellow, green peppers and onion cooked in)
    1 slice borden pepperjack cheese
    Shredded lettuce on top

    Snack
    1c green bean chips (dehydrated, dried)

    *ate a whole can of blue diamond habanero bbq almonds, they were my snacks between meals
    the habanero bbq almonds are more addictive than crack laced with meth thats been laced with heroin. i love those things. i think im going to the grocery store tomorrow...

    how's the peps going? the burn will dissapear eventually once you get used to it. i remember my first pin of test had a little twinge to it from the BA used to dilute the powders. by the 7th week i was sticking my self while brushing my teeth and cooking dinner and didnt even notice it id have to check the garbage to make sure i pinned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post

    the habanero bbq almonds are more addictive than crack laced with meth thats been laced with heroin. i love those things. i think im going to the grocery store tomorrow...

    how's the peps going? the burn will dissapear eventually once you get used to it. i remember my first pin of test had a little twinge to it from the BA used to dilute the powders. by the 7th week i was sticking my self while brushing my teeth and cooking dinner and didnt even notice it id have to check the garbage to make sure i pinned.
    Im enjoying them so far. The pinning isnt bad, the sting is annoying but its all good. The habanero bbq almonds ARE drugs.. im convinced lol

    Whole macadamias with sea salt are my shizz too

    *noticed, my chest has zero tenderness/soreness, same goes for biceps. Peptides? Maybe..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    Im enjoying them so far. The pinning isnt bad, the sting is annoying but its all good. The habanero bbq almonds ARE drugs.. im convinced lol

    Whole macadamias with sea salt are my shizz too

    *noticed, my chest has zero tenderness/soreness, same goes for biceps. Peptides? Maybe..
    I feel like such a dummy when you guys start the peps talk. sort of like the cartoon peanuts when Charlie Brown would talk to an adult on the phone, wawawaw wawawaw what??? Lol I have to start doing my Peps homework.
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    Shoulders / Traps

    This was my Tuesday workout, sorry guys works has been nuts it's almost April 15th!!! Had a very good workout with almost no shoulder pain!!! I"m very happy about that hopefully soon I be pushing some real weight around. I'm starting to notice my muscles getting harder and my intensity is starting to increase as well. I think the 5 Alpha is strating to work.. I also started this workout with about 15-20 mins of ab work.

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    55x12
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post
    I feel like such a dummy when you guys start the pep talk.
    Shouldn't a good peptalk make you happier?


    Do you do the facepulls seated? I haven't figured out how to do them standing and be able to stay upright with as much weight as I need lol. Like 100 would be great but over 65lbs I start hauling fwd even tho the cables feel light and I'm just repping it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Shouldn't a good peptalk make you happier?


    Do you do the facepulls seated? I haven't figured out how to do them standing and be able to stay upright with as much weight as I need lol. Like 100 would be great but over 65lbs I start hauling fwd even tho the cables feel light and I'm just repping it lol.
    I do them with a high cable on one knee with one foot forward. This way my front foot helps to keep me from swaying. I kind of lean back very slight and pull the center of the rope to my nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post

    I do them with a high cable on one knee with one foot forward. This way my front foot helps to keep me from swaying. I kind of lean back very slight and pull the center of the rope to my nose.
    Love me some face pulls. I do mine standing, stager my feet and keep the weight pretty light to get a strong contraction
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Love me some face pulls. I do mine standing, stager my feet and keep the weight pretty light to get a strong contraction
    I do them 3 different ways either standing, kneeling or seated on a cable row. Standing are great for lower weight high rep, I try to switch it up each time. Hyde try the one knee thing and let me know what you think..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Shoulder Press on Smith machine is a one way ticket to pain.....keep that in mind
    It seems smarter/safer with lingering shoulder issues. I'll agree that it isn't. You're better off with dumbells or barbell ohp. It's a more free natural rom. If you go super light it's not quite as bad, I'll occasionally hit them at the end of the day for a pump but fresh and heavy is killer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Shoulder Press on Smith machine is a one way ticket to pain.....keep that in mind
    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    It seems smarter/safer with lingering shoulder issues. I'll agree that it isn't. You're better off with dumbells or barbell ohp. It's a more free natural rom. If you go super light it's not quite as bad, I'll occasionally hit them at the end of the day for a pump but fresh and heavy is killer
    Thanks guys! I always thought is was safer, my mistake they will definitly be removed not looking forward to anymore shoulder pain than I already have..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post
    Thanks guys! I always thought is was safer, my mistake they will definitly be removed not looking forward to anymore shoulder pain than I already have..
    It's just a bad range of motion and is very restricting....hammer strength or shoulder machines are a little better though.
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    Chest/Quads

    Yeah Baby finally did a chest workout with almost no shoulder pain!! I could have went heavier on my lifts but I still wanted to take it easy and not give it all I got.. I did use my new belt and tried it out on squats, it felt better to have the extra support. Some reason I just can not squat for the life of me. My form sucks and I always fee like I'm leaning forward. I really need to get someone to train me in doing the correct form. Anyway I felt and looked real good last night I'm starting to thin out again. I may have to get a couple pics up soon..

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    225x10

    Hex press
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    75's x12
    75's x10
    75's x10

    Incline Press DB
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    65x12
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    75x12

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    2 plates per side x12
    2 plates per side x12
    2 plates per side x12

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    65x12
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    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12

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    Like how you are changing the lifts up on the FST7 side. How did the extensions feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Like how you are changing the lifts up on the FST7 side. How did the extensions feel?
    I've been trying to rotate the exercises so that each week the FST-7 side is a new movement and let me tell I'm sore as hell!!! My quads were so pumped from the extensions I couldn't walk.. I think it hit my qauds much better than the presses, I'm trying to get my chicken legs to grow!!! LOL
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    tyga apparently i ordered cjc dac instead of modgrf. i've seen a lot of different dosing protocols. what can you tell me from your research? i'm thinking 1mg e3d and stick to 3 shots a day of ghrp2
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    tyga apparently i ordered cjc dac instead of modgrf. i've seen a lot of different dosing protocols. what can you tell me from your research? i'm thinking 1mg e3d and stick to 3 shots a day of ghrp2
    You got it. 2-4mg a week of cjc dac (all on a monday or spread through the week, i like your e3d approach) and 3 shots ghrp2 100-300mcg ed
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    Banged out some back, favorite day to workout. Everythings going real well, pins are getting easier as well.

    Wide chins- 12, 10, 10
    Yates rows- 95x10 115x10 135x7 155x6
    Handled straight bar pd- 110x10 120x10 130x6 140x6
    Seated face pull- 60x 10 70x10 80x10 80x10
    Conventional deadlift- 135x10 225x6 275x6 315x4
    Wide lat pd- 110x10 120x10 150x8 150x8

    * shout out to swanky for sending buku samples! I was on my way out of the house, when i checked the mail. So i didnt get to use volatile but i did use a sample of melon endurance bcaas.

    First, i mixed one sample in 22oz water WITH my kwick karb. The taste is phenominal! The COP i get from my pre is on point already, but the addition of COP i got from endurance bcaas was very noticeable. The beta alanine in it stuck with me until my last set, tingles and all, the beta alanine from prodigy wears off pretty quick when i take it solo, so i know it came from the endurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post
    Chest/Quads

    Yeah Baby finally did a chest workout with almost no shoulder pain!! I could have went heavier on my lifts but I still wanted to take it easy and not give it all I got.. I did use my new belt and tried it out on squats, it felt better to have the extra support. Some reason I just can not squat for the life of me. My form sucks and I always fee like I'm leaning forward. I really need to get someone to train me in doing the correct form. Anyway I felt and looked real good last night I'm starting to thin out again. I may have to get a couple pics up soon..

    Bench Press
    135x12
    185x12
    225x10
    225x10

    Hex press
    75's x12
    75's x12
    75's x10
    75's x10

    Incline Press DB
    65x12
    65x12
    75x12
    75x12

    Hammer strength decline Press
    2 plates per side x12
    2 plates per side x12
    2 plates per side x12
    2 plates per side x12

    Straight Arm DB pull overs
    65x12
    65x12
    65x10
    65x10

    Cable Crossover
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12
    35 per side x12

    Squats
    205x12
    225x12
    225x12
    225x10

    Leg Press
    405x12
    405x12
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    425x12

    Seated Leg Extension
    135x12
    135x12
    135x12
    135x12
    135x12
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    Nice session caz! Thats good news on the shoulder too. Your incline db is impressive (ecspecially with the reps) and i see your squattin! Myyyyyyy man
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post

    You got it. 2-4mg a week of cjc dac (all on a monday or spread through the week, i like your e3d approach) and 3 shots ghrp2 100-300mcg ed
    I've seen a lot if literature stating that ghrp2 sees diminishing returns over 100mcg per inject. I'll be at 100 each shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post

    I've seen a lot if literature stating that ghrp2 sees diminishing returns over 100mcg per inject. I'll be at 100 each shot.
    Links please? Ive been pm'ing back and fourth with russian star, and hes been telling me to get the same pulse off of ghrp 2 as 6 you would have to take double the dose of ghrp 2.

    *side note, im doing 100mcg cjc/ghrp 6- 4x daily, just until i recieve my ipam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Links please? Ive been pm'ing back and fourth with russian star, and hes been telling me to get the same pulse off of ghrp 2 as 6 you would have to take double the dose of ghrp 2.

    *side note, im doing 100mcg cjc/ghrp 6- 4x daily, just until i recieve my ipam.
    i'll do what i can to find it its on pro m somewhere. give me a few and i'll see what i can pull up
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    i'll do what i can to find it its on pro m somewhere. give me a few and i'll see what i can pull up
    here's one from dat bascially confirming it
    http://www.datbtrue.co.uk/forums/sho...-to-Level-7%29


    http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...-protocal.html

    another from dat

    "A Brief Summary of Dosing and Administration

    Dosing GHRPs

    The saturation dose in most studies on the GHRPs (GHRP-6, GHRP-2, Ipamorelin & Hexarelin) is defined as either 100mcg or 1mcg/kg.

    What that means is that 100mcg will saturate the receptors fully, but if you add another 100mcg to that dose only 50% of that portion will be effective. If you add an additional 100mcg to that dose only about 25% will be effective. Perhaps a final 100mcg might add a little something to GH release but that is it.

    So 100mcg is the saturation dose and you could add more up to 300 to 400mcg and get a little more effect.

    A 500mcg dose will not be more effective then a 400mcg, perhaps not even more effective then 300mcg.

    The additional problems are desensitization & cortisol/prolactin side-effects.

    Ipamorelin is about as efficacious as GHRP-6 in causing GH release but even at higher dose (above 100mcg) it does not create prolactin or cortisol.

    GHRP-6 at the saturation dose 100mcg does not really increase prolactin & cortisol but may do so slightly at higher doses. This rise is still within the normal range.

    GHRP-2 is a little more efficacious then GHRP-6 at causing GH release but at the saturation dose or higher may produce a slight to moderate increase in prolactin & cortisol. This rise is still within the normal range although doses of 200 - 400mcg might make it the high end of the normal range.

    Hexarelin is the most efficacious of all of the GHRPs at causing an increase in GH release. However it has the highest potential to also increase cortisol & prolactin. This rise will occur even at the 100mcg saturation dose. This rise will reach the higher levels of what is defined as normal."
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post

    here's one from dat bascially confirming it
    http://www.datbtrue.co.uk/forums/sho...-to-Level-7%29

    http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...-protocal.html

    another from dat

    "A Brief Summary of Dosing and Administration

    Dosing GHRPs

    The saturation dose in most studies on the GHRPs (GHRP-6, GHRP-2, Ipamorelin & Hexarelin) is defined as either 100mcg or 1mcg/kg.

    What that means is that 100mcg will saturate the receptors fully, but if you add another 100mcg to that dose only 50% of that portion will be effective. If you add an additional 100mcg to that dose only about 25% will be effective. Perhaps a final 100mcg might add a little something to GH release but that is it.

    So 100mcg is the saturation dose and you could add more up to 300 to 400mcg and get a little more effect.

    A 500mcg dose will not be more effective then a 400mcg, perhaps not even more effective then 300mcg.

    The additional problems are desensitization & cortisol/prolactin side-effects.

    Ipamorelin is about as efficacious as GHRP-6 in causing GH release but even at higher dose (above 100mcg) it does not create prolactin or cortisol.

    GHRP-6 at the saturation dose 100mcg does not really increase prolactin & cortisol but may do so slightly at higher doses. This rise is still within the normal range.

    GHRP-2 is a little more efficacious then GHRP-6 at causing GH release but at the saturation dose or higher may produce a slight to moderate increase in prolactin & cortisol. This rise is still within the normal range although doses of 200 - 400mcg might make it the high end of the normal range.

    Hexarelin is the most efficacious of all of the GHRPs at causing an increase in GH release. However it has the highest potential to also increase cortisol & prolactin. This rise will occur even at the 100mcg saturation dose. This rise will reach the higher levels of what is defined as normal."
    Lol i actually read that little bit on pro muscle this morning. Dat seems to be the end all to peptides, although RS is revolutionary (very knowledgeable) as well. Dually noted beezy, appreciate that links. Obviously go with dats recommendation.
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