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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    And just how can you go about claiming you know the thoughts of "most" people? Lemme guess, you met one or two guys with bad attitudes and decided everyone who does it thinks they are arrogant! You sir, are a jack@ss
    never said i knew their thoughts, said they act like. also have met quite a few of crossfitters and they have had that elitest attitude. not to mention the winner of the crossfit games is called the "fittest man on the planet" gtfo with that


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post

    And just how can you go about claiming you know the thoughts of "most" people? Lemme guess, you met one or two guys with bad attitudes and decided everyone who does it thinks they are arrogant! You sir, are a jack@ss
    We have some at our gym and they do carry an arrogant air about them! I just sit back and laugh at them to be honest. To sacrifice form/technique for speed is ridiculous! Always waiting to hear something tear or break!! All the kicking they do to complete chins or dips is hilarious to watch......IMO. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11 View Post
    Epolis thank u

    Would u mind explaining the acronyms?

    I want to win the crossfit games how do I do this?

    Find a really good coach. Not you avg. run of the mill CF coach. Do not follow the main site. Most of the folks you see compete in the games deviate from the traditional mantra of CF. And as of the latter years strength has played a more dominating factor in the games.

    Ben Bergeron has this to say...

    "CrossFit is training for the unknown and unknowable, but for top athletes, knowing the date of game day changes the game, Ben Bergeron says.“We’re no longer training for the unknown and unknowable. We’re no longer training for ‘a constant, ready state,’” the co-owner and head coach ofCrossFit New England says of athletes competing at Regionals and the CrossFit Games.
    He adds: “We know when game day is. It’s the middle of July.”
    Likewise, Bergeron breaks up the year so his athletes peak at the Games:

    • August: rest and recovery.
    • September and October: strength.
    • November and December: speed strength.
    • January: solely dedicated to weaknesses.
    • February and March: met-cons.
    • April and May: Regional prep.
    • June and July: Games prep.

    In the case of Regional competition, where the workouts are known weeks before game day, it’s “irresponsible” not to train the movements if the goal is to go the Games, Bergeron says.
    “Those six weeks, we are no longer CrossFitters,” he explains. “We are deadlift-box jump specialists, we are thruster specialists, we are Amanda specialists. … We specialize those workouts. We excel at them. We know the workouts inside, outside cold, frontwards and backwards. We know exactly the stimulus. … We are peaked at those movements.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Find a really good coach. Not you avg. run of the mill CF coach. Do not follow the main site. Most of the folks you see compete in the games deviate from the traditional mantra of CF. And as of the latter years strength has played a more dominating factor in the games.Ben Bergeron has this to say..."CrossFit is training for the unknown and unknowable, but for top athletes, knowing the date of game day changes the game, Ben Bergeron says.“We’re no longer training for the unknown and unknowable. We’re no longer training for ‘a constant, ready state,’” the co-owner and head coach of CFNE says of athletes competing at Regionals and the CrossFit Games.He adds: “We know when game day is. It’s the middle of July.”Likewise, Bergeron breaks up the year so his athletes peak at the Games:
    • August: rest and recovery.
    • September and October: strength.
    • November and December: speed strength.
    • January: solely dedicated to weaknesses.
    • February and March: met-cons.
    • April and May: Regional prep.
    • June and July: Games prep.

    In the case of Regional competition, where the workouts are known weeks before game day, it’s “irresponsible” not to train the movements if the goal is to go the Games, Bergeron says.“Those six weeks, we are no longer CrossFitters,” he explains. “We are deadlift-box jump specialists, we are thruster specialists, we are Amanda specialists. … We specialize those workouts. We excel at them. We know the workouts inside, outside cold, frontwards and backwards. We know exactly the stimulus. … We are peaked at those movements.”
    Awesome post, and spot on. Yes, those of us who compete treat it more like a sport and train as such. We have a year-long plan and stick to it. Agree on the coaching front, as well. Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoadx View Post
    never said i knew their thoughts, said they act like. also have met quite a few of crossfitters and they have had that elitest attitude. not to mention the winner of the crossfit games is called the "fittest man on the planet" gtfo with that
    If you have ever seen any of the older youtube videos you know this. Or just listen to anything glassman says. He has made some outrageous claims that are just plain comical. Now I know some people are going to say that crossfitters have deviated themselves from glassman and HQ but the fact remains everything crossfit related goes through them. Plus you know some dbags heard glassman's claims and ate them up. This would be an awesome place to start a new paragraph... With all that said crossfitters are crazy haha. They bust their asses with their workouts. Work themselves to the bone. Train to the point of exhaustion. Personally not my style but you have to give them props for hard work even if I think it is counter productive at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    If you have ever seen any of the older youtube videos you know this. Or just listen to anything glassman says. He has made some outrageous claims that are just plain comical. Now I know some people are going to say that crossfitters have deviated themselves from glassman and HQ but the fact remains everything crossfit related goes through them. Plus you know some dbags heard glassman's claims and ate them up.
    Glassman is a tool! And not everything CF goes through him and HQ, unfortunately, just what you see on TV. And anyone with a brain knows you take what you see on TV with a grain of salt.. each gym tailors toward the goals of the trainers at that gym and the people who go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epolis13 View Post
    To give you an idea of some of the #s that the best of the best are putting up: the guy who won the CF Games last year can snatch 300#. That's crazy talk.
    Rich Froning besides having great genetics basically works out for a living. He is part owner of a crossfit gym and is a strength & conditioning coach for Tenn. Tech Univ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    Glassman is a tool! And not everything CF goes through him and HQ, unfortunately, just what you see on TV. And anyone with a brain knows you take what you see on TV with a grain of salt.. each gym tailors toward the goals of the trainers at that gym and the people who go there.
    I did add to my post. EVERY crossfit affiliate has gone through HQ or they cant call themselves a crossfit gym. HQ can revoke an affiliate if they feel the need. And of course each box is different that goes with any gym.
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    Rich Froning besides having great genetics basically works out for a living. He is part owner of a crossfit gym and is a strength & conditioning coach for Tenn. Tech Univ.
    Ya having goal of Rich Froning are not realistic. As said he has the genetics and his job is working out. Plus wouldn't be surprised if he was a former athlete like MOST of the crossfit competitors are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Now I know some people are going to say that crossfitters have deviated themselves from glassman and HQ but the fact remains everything crossfit related goes through them.

    This is not true. In fact, this has actually been one of the larger points of issues taken with CF. The fact that CF HQ does not regulate/license the gyms and instructors out there. Consistency is lacking. This is how you come across horrible coaches and gyms and really good ones. There is no well defined regulatory system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    I did add to my post. EVERY crossfit affiliate has gone through HQ or they cant call themselves a crossfit gym. HQ can revoke an affiliate if they feel the need. And of course each box is different that goes with any gym.


    Ya having goal of Rich Froning are not realistic. As said he has the genetics and his job is working out. Plus wouldn't be surprised if he was a former athlete like MOST of the crossfit competitors are.
    Pretty sure he was an athlete in high school and college. I don't remember what though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    This is not true. In fact, this has actually been one of the larger points of issues taken with CF. The fact that CF HQ does not regulate/license the gyms and instructors out there. Consistency is lacking. This is how you come across horrible coaches and gyms and really good ones. There is no well defined regulatory system.
    I know they do a sh1t job of actually doing quality control but I though people still have to go through the HQ to get certification and call themselves an affiliate.
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    Pretty sure he was an athlete in high school and college. I don't remember what though.
    Ya I just looked on cf website. Said he played college sports but didn't say what. Point being he probably could have competed in another sport and done well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    I know they do a sh1t job of actually doing quality control but I though people still have to go through the HQ to get certification and call themselves an affiliate.

    Ya I just looked on cf website. Said he played college sports but didn't say what. Point being he probably could have competed in another sport and done well.

    I can't actually claim to know the details of their buisness operations, but I can point out that they have various military crossfit spots under their "affiliates" section and I know damn well the military isn't licensed with them. Some times there are licensed crossfit level whatever instructors there, but most of the time it is just us doing our own thing. I would assume that in order to use the term crossfit in their name etc there is a procedure. I wouldn't but be surprised that all is required is $$$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    I can't actually claim to know the details of their buisness operations, but I can point out that they have various military crossfit spots under their "affiliates" section and I know damn well the military isn't licensed with them. Some times there are licensed crossfit level whatever instructors there, but most of the time it is just us doing our own thing. I would assume that in order to use the term crossfit in their name etc there is a procedure. I wouldn't but be surprised that all is required is $$$.
    I have limited knowledge myself but I am pretty you have to have a level 1 cert to call yourself a crossfit affiliate. I know the level 1 cert is $1000. Which is basically a weekend and a test. Then it is pretty much go have fun haha. If anyone wants a good read they can check this out: http://robbwolf.com/2009/11/24/the-b...certification/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    I have limited knowledge myself but I am pretty you have to have a level 1 cert to call yourself a crossfit affiliate. I know the level 1 cert is $1000. Which is basically a weekend and a test. Then it is pretty much go have fun haha. If anyone wants a good read they can check this out: [/URL]
    Just read it!!! What a bunch of psycho,money hungry,back stabbing douche bags!!! Lol I applaud him for quitting and moving on with his integrity in tact!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose45 View Post

    Just read it!!! What a bunch of psycho,money hungry,back stabbing douche bags!!! Lol I applaud him for quitting and moving on with his integrity in tact!!
    Yeah I just read it too....that was pretty bad, but I'm sure the amount of D-bagness around all of the CF business people is the last thing on anyone's mind who is doing a workout....so who cares what these guys are arguing about? Ya think the CEO of planet fitness cares about anyone attending his gym, I doubt it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post

    Yeah I just read it too....that was pretty bad, but I'm sure the amount of D-bagness around all of the CF business people is the last thing on anyone's mind who is doing a workout....so who cares what these guys are arguing about? Ya think the CEO of planet fitness cares about anyone attending his gym, I doubt it!
    It is what it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11 View Post
    My goal is to be Better than everyone at everything
    good luck with that cause right now im the best......

    if u get jims 5/3/1 book u will want to read his condition. ive read it a few times and i want to puke everytime i do, 20 reps of 40-50yrd uphill sprints will strip fat and keep u strong.......

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    How the hell do u dead lift 295 and squat 205
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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11
    How the hell do u dead lift 295 and squat 205
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    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    What?
    I think he's talking to me, but I'm not sure what the question is. My numbers are my numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11 View Post
    How the hell do u dead lift 295 and squat 205
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    I'm sure if you really need to know you can watch some tutorials how to squat and deadlift on youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11 View Post
    How the hell do u dead lift 295 and squat 205
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    what do u mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11
    How the hell do u dead lift 295 and squat 205
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    This is in reference to epolis13.

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    Not doubting, I squatted 315 yesterday and could barely hold 225. I think it's my grip...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11 View Post
    Not doubting, I squatted 315 yesterday and could barely hold 225. I think it's my grip...
    Sounds like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11
    Not doubting, I squatted 315 yesterday and could barely hold 225. I think it's my grip...
    Over/under or hook grip plus chalk. Stop using straps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    Over/under or hook grip plus chalk. Stop using straps.
    But chalk is so messy :whine:

    Then I'll get my nice Nike shirt all dirty! How will I impress the ladies if I'm dirty!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    Over/under or hook grip plus chalk. Stop using straps.
    ^^ Hit the nail on the head with these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

    But chalk is so messy :whine:

    Then I'll get my nice Nike shirt all dirty! How will I impress the ladies if I'm dirty!?
    Haha everyone knows that is most important.

    Don't get some liquid grip crap. I have some and it sucks. Doesn't even last through deadlifts. Either their claims are overstated or my deadlift exceeds what it can handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    Haha everyone knows that is most important.

    Don't get some liquid grip crap. I have some and it sucks. Doesn't even last through deadlifts. Either their claims are overstated or my deadlift exceeds what it can handle.
    Lol I use regular chalk, like a MAN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

    Lol I use regular chalk, like a MAN!
    Haha I used to. My bag of chalk busted open and now my gym bag is ghost white haha. Plus I go to a fitness center where they frown upon chalk. Granted they have never said anything to me about it in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    Haha I used to. My bag of chalk busted open and now my gym bag is ghost white haha. Plus I go to a fitness center where they frown upon chalk. Granted they have never said anything to me about it in the past.
    They told me I can't have it. So.I bring it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post

    Haha I used to. My bag of chalk busted open and now my gym bag is ghost white haha. Plus I go to a fitness center where they frown upon chalk. Granted they have never said anything to me about it in the past.
    I belong to a great hole in the wall gym and hit a Y (kids swim there) once in awhile. They gave me **** at the Y for chalk and I told the guy "it is safety equipment back-off! " Lmao!!

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    One of my base gyms frowns on chalk, so I tape across my hands at the base of my fingers (I'm sure you all know where I mean, at the callous) it helps a little, but not as good as chalk. I've never used straps, but never felt the need either, just lots of grip work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    One of my base gyms frowns on chalk, so I tape across my hands at the base of my fingers (I'm sure you all know where I mean, at the callous) it helps a little, but not as good as chalk. I've never used straps, but never felt the need either, just lots of grip work.
    I have a couple like that here on post.

    I normally just don't go (mostly because I hate gyms on post) or just bring chalk and tell em to suck on my balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post

    I have a couple like that here on post.

    I normally just don't go (mostly because I hate gyms on post) or just bring chalk and tell em to suck on my balls.
    I will drag the chalk over from the CF gym if none of the people who clean the main gym are around, but I they are I just take for my deads. I'm too mouthy and one of them out ranks me.

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    Yea well I didn't use gloves or chalk and its my third attempt since we've been discussing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theish11 View Post
    Yea well I didn't use gloves or chalk and its my third attempt since we've been discussing this.
    I only use chalk for 300+ unless I'm doing reps.
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    I only use chalk for 300+ unless I'm doing reps.
    Not bad man!! I'm chalkin over 225!! My hands rip if I don't. Grip is good to 400+ though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post

    Not bad man!! I'm chalkin over 225!! My hands rip if I don't. Grip is good to 400+ though.
    I can't pull 400+ without technical failure.....
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