Gaining strength after injury

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  1. I do actually have neck pain. It really hurts when I move my head and neck back. I can tilt just my head if that makes sense. Side to side and forward don't hurt. It is actually getting better than it was a couple weeks ago. It hurts the most when I get up in the morning along with my arm hurting. Once I move around it gets better. When I met with the pt he said it will take 12 weeks or so to get better. I can honestly say it is better than when I started. My main concern was that I just woke up one morning with so much nerve pain I pretty much couldn't move my head,neck and arm. Then got the shot and its getting better. I wanted to start some exercising mainly to get my arm strength and grip strength back. I know I can't get after it right now like I used to though. Thanks for all the help from eveyone


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  2. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post

    this is a common theme in this area, and part of the reason i got out of research and went to the business side. the problem is that you have a fair number of pts that just don't want to get better. there are a lot of auto accident/workers comp pts in this population who have a monetary interest in not getting better. it's a big frustration in trying to do research in this area. a lot of the neurosurgery stuff i did were device trials, ie artificial disks, hardware used in fusions etc...

    i can remember a number of trials that had a really good device from a safety/phase 1 trial standpoint, really good results. as they rolled the device out to a larger population in the phase 3 trials, these auto accident/workers comp pts end up in your study and confound the results.

    <---not even kidding...


    I know what you mean about the people wanting to get on dis, motor vehicle accidents, comp patients that don't want to return to work. I've even had a few of these pts lose their hearings and try to either come back on me or the doctor, these the people who it was pretty obvious they were faking it anyways.. Really kills your want to want to help people at all...the research with hardware sounds interesting.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by KimChee75 View Post
    the research with hardware sounds interesting.
    it was, but like i said, very frustrating. the most fun i had was early in my career working with quads. i worked for/with a rehab guy that had a big nih grant. it was when the 2nd generation spasticity drugs came out and we were involved in the early clinical trials because of a device the guy i worked for/with designed to measure spasms by inducing them. once baseline is established, you can look at drug effect. nothing earth shattering but it was pretty cool...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by witt51 View Post
    I do actually have neck pain. It really hurts when I move my head and neck back. I can tilt just my head if that makes sense. Side to side and forward don't hurt. It is actually getting better than it was a couple weeks ago. It hurts the most when I get up in the morning along with my arm hurting. Once I move around it gets better. When I met with the pt he said it will take 12 weeks or so to get better. I can honestly say it is better than when I started. My main concern was that I just woke up one morning with so much nerve pain I pretty much couldn't move my head,neck and arm. Then got the shot and its getting better. I wanted to start some exercising mainly to get my arm strength and grip strength back. I know I can't get after it right now like I used to though. Thanks for all the help from eveyone

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    Don't mess yourself up more accidentally. Even if your a pro lifter. The hospital docs told me to forget about lifting heavy things, also to quit weight lifting at the gym as well.

    Doesn't mean I don't lift though. Rehab works miracles.
    “Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our enemies have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" - General Secretary of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Joseph Stalin.

  5. Ya I guess I'm going to have to take it easy for now on. I have a feeling without surgery to remove the spurs this will more than likely come back at some time.

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  6. Quote Originally Posted by witt51 View Post
    Ya I guess I'm going to have to take it easy for now on. I have a feeling without surgery to remove the spurs this will more than likely come back at some time.

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    Lol surgery is very extreme. Id never risk that far. There's natural non surgical methods that triumph today's bull**** medicine and surgery.
    “Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our enemies have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" - General Secretary of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Joseph Stalin.

  7. Always consider surgery as your last option in all scenarios. Especially when you're talking about things to do with the spine. I've had more than one patient have spinal surgery and come back with some form of paralysis post surgery. I've never had surgery but the threshold to me seems to be when a person is not doing things out in the community due to pain and when they can't sleep at night due to pain. I always in a somewhat round about way remind my patients that a surgeon wants you to have surgery! I've had several of my own patients talked into getting surgery done when conservative treatment would have been just fine...I'm going off on a tangent but you get the idea..

  8. I agree with you. I want that to be my last resort. So if the spurs will not go away is this something I would be going through forever. I just been so miserable for so long. Also with the pt will I just wake up one morning and not be in pain? Or just gets gradually better?

    For some reason I can't rep you

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  9. I agree with what your pt says its going to take 2-3 months of treatment..our goal in PT is to reduce your pain as much as possible, but unfortunately it may not be all the way in all cases. I feel like since we are online I can be frank with you, normally I would say something like we'll do the best we can and see how it goes..The goal is strengthen the neck muscles, stretch, ROM and your level of functionality, I can't tell you to take things, but are you on any fish oils? They seem to greatly reduce inflammation and help with joint pain in my own experience, NSAIDS will also help.

    I guess the bone spurs arent rubbing on any of the tendons bad enough that they want to do surgery right away? That's the other thing to think about bone spur removal shoulder scope is op procedure and not very invasive..Im getting ahead of myself due to lack of sleep, but we'll see how you do with conservative tx ...
    PT, DPT, OCS Clinical Residency

  10. If you guys can please advice me as well.
    “Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our enemies have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" - General Secretary of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Joseph Stalin.

  11. This is a little outside of the scope of my knowledge. The only input I can give is to maybe think about some Estim on the muscles of the forearm and wrists to keep them active and maintain some level of muscle mass.

    Jason Cholewa, Ph.D., CSCS

  12. I like the others applaud your enthusiasm to get back to lifting! But these guys have a HUGE point in taking it slow and getting all your PT done and listening to your Doc. DON'T RUSH ANYTHING !!!!
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