Rotator Cuff Injury? Stay Away Lifts

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    PM it to me again.

    Are you competing raw or geared?
    This will prolly be my last raw meet before moving to the dark side...

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    This will prolly be my last raw meet before moving to the dark side...

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    Gotcha. He's a multi-ply lifter, so you won't be in the same class.
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  3. Ive had surgery for a labral tear as well and the rehab was lengthy and VERY painful. Most definitely stay away from parallel bar dips, upright rows, heavy flat bench, and behind the neck presses.
    Remember why you started.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather
    Ive had surgery for a labral tear as well and the rehab was lengthy and VERY painful. Most definitely stay away from parallel bar dips, upright rows, heavy flat bench, and behind the neck presses.
    The labral tear actually takes longer to heal than a cuff tear.

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    The labral tear actually takes longer to heal than a cuff tear.

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    Yep. He used 3 anchors that looked like white drywall anchors and reattached the labrum with Kevlar as well as pleated the capsule to the bone to help tighten everything up. Feels good and secure now but i did lose a little bit of ROM even with physical therapy.
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  6. Re: Rotator Cuff Injury? Stay Away Lifts


    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    Yep. He used 3 anchors that looked like white drywall anchors and reattached the labrum with Kevlar as well as pleated the capsule to the bone to help tighten everything up. Feels good and secure now but i did lose a little bit of ROM even with physical therapy.
    Can you still bench heavy??
    Now that you're all recovered??

  7. naplams dead on with all his info, sad to say, its no fun to learn these things because of the surgery route. I've been through 2 surgeries also. He's correct, you'll never be 100%, rehabing is KEY..Do it diligently. I'm 2 years post from my last one, I'm still doing my therapy movements 3 times a week. I still bench press, parked my ego, use more TUT movements..time under tension, use slower tempos.
    Made something like this out of heavy strofoam.
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    I'm back to benching, but again, just a lot of caution. Best of luck with it, come back strong!!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post

    Can you still bench heavy??
    Now that you're all recovered??
    No I don't even flat bench anymore. I do just dumbbell presses and various machines for chest nowadays. Like said before, you're never 100% afterwards, just better.

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  9. Off topic ( I apologize ) but hey napalm..what gym are you lifting at now? Few gentlemen that workout at Detroit barbell so that's why I ask

  10. Geese sorry for the poor sentence structure lol

  11. Thanks so far. So stay away from pressing movements, what about pulling such as dead lifts? Bis and Tri movements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Thanks so far. So stay away from pressing movements, what about pulling such as dead lifts? Bis and Tri movements?
    Pulling movements are fine in my case, they don't seem to cause my shoulder any pain.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by WeT.DoLPhiN
    Off topic ( I apologize ) but hey napalm..what gym are you lifting at now? Few gentlemen that workout at Detroit barbell so that's why I ask
    I'm at the powerhouse in Dearborn, just up telegraph from DB.

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by tank316
    naplams dead on with all his info
    Txs tank, outside of doing the procedure itself, there's not much I don't know about shoulder surgery/rehab...

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  15. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    I've possibly hurt my rotator cuff in my left shoulder. Not sure but the pain is the nagging type that's deep in the shoulder joint.

    Resting the area now but still want to lift. I know it's time to see the doc but until I do what lifts should I stay away from?
    Are you going to get it checked out by a doctor?

  16. Yes, will be heading to the doc next month. For now I'm avoiding all lifts that tax the shoulders and sticking with lower body, bi/tri and abs. All this to give the shoulder a big rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Funny... I'm about to get a cortisone shot today in my shoulder.. Hope it helps.
    I've been training for 40 years and have had more surgeries than Frankenstein......rotator cuff surgery was the most debilitating, and I never regained full range of motion.

    There's a new procedure out called PRP injections....

    I don't have "enough posts to provide a link" but look it up.....

    I'm getting one in my elbow for a tear in the tricep tendon, and can't wait. this procedure sounds like the wave of the future.

    Good luck whatever you decide on.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by tigerdb2 View Post
    For most injuries cortisone will just mask the issue for a short period which, as stated, leads to more harm than good. Be wary of them. Most of the sports pts I know loath Dr.s who prescribe them often
    Plus the needle digging in to your shoulder hurts like hell.

  19. I, too, have been having issues with my left shoulder. Feels more like an impingement, but it might be a tear, as I recall when I first hurt it, it "burned" (I was sledding down a mountain and was getting out of control. I "stopped" myself with my elbow and that seemed to "pull" too hard on the shoulder.)

    It "clicks" when I move it across my chest and I think it's starting to bother my elbow. Not sure what's really going on, but I'm hoping maybe a chiropractor can align it. Also, feels like a balls of nerves right near my shoulder blade and when I bench, it feels like my arm's twisting. When I do dumbbell curls, I can't seem to get a good pump in the biceps and it feels like more of the outer triceps that gets the workout. And, then there's the ulnar nerve. Feels like it wants to pop out or some such.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ricroc
    but I'm hoping maybe a chiropractor can align it.
    Chiropractors do an awesome job on a lot of musculoskeletal issues, but if it were my shoulder, no f'ing way would I let one torque on it. If there is a tear, that could possibly make it worse. If it is impinged, it's a easy diagnosis: what the doc will do is inject the AC joint with lidocaine. If the pain goes away, it's impinged.

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  21. ^--cool. Good advice to follow. Thanks.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    Chiropractors do an awesome job on a lot of musculoskeletal issues, but if it were my shoulder, no f'ing way would I let one torque on it. If there is a tear, that could possibly make it worse. If it is impinged, it's a easy diagnosis: what the doc will do is inject the AC joint with lidocaine. If the pain goes away, it's impinged.

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    napalm, I have been diagnosed by an orthopedic surgeon as having labrum tears in both shoulders, although I haven't had any MRI's done yet. I noticed you said that your labrum tears don't give you any additional pain when you work out. My experience has been the opposite -- when I work out (especially chest exercises), my labrum tears hurt, sometimes really badly. Do you think that is an indication that I have a rotator cuff tear and not a labrum tear (or maybe in addition to a labrum tear)? Also, did doing any physical therapy exercises bring any pain relief? I have been doing them on my own at the gym, but I don't think they've really helped much (in fact, it actually hurts when I do the exercises).

  23. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider

    napalm, I have been diagnosed by an orthopedic surgeon as having labrum tears in both shoulders, although I haven't had any MRI's done yet. I noticed you said that your labrum tears don't give you any additional pain when you work out. My experience has been the opposite -- when I work out (especially chest exercises), my labrum tears hurt, sometimes really badly. Do you think that is an indication that I have a rotator cuff tear and not a labrum tear (or maybe in addition to a labrum tear)? Also, did doing any physical therapy exercises bring any pain relief? I have been doing them on my own at the gym, but I don't think they've really helped much (in fact, it actually hurts when I do the exercises).
    Like I mentioned earlier, labral tears can be hard to dx. They don't show up a lot on MRI. The definitive way to dx one is through arthroscopy. I see one of three scenarios: labral tear, cuff tear or both. My last repair was for both.

    As far as therapy bringing pain relief, the short answer is no, the pain relief comes from the repair itself. I haven't been pain free in 25 years. This is what we do bro, as with anything there are consequences if taken to extremes.

    Good luck and keep us posted...

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  24. Quote Originally Posted by napalm

    Like I mentioned earlier, labral tears can be hard to dx. They don't show up a lot on MRI. The definitive way to dx one is through arthroscopy. I see one of three scenarios: labral tear, cuff tear or both. My last repair was for both.

    As far as therapy bringing pain relief, the short answer is no, the pain relief comes from the repair itself, and in my experience, even after repair there is still a degree of pain. I haven't been pain free in 25 years. This is what we do bro, as with anything there are consequences if taken to extremes.

    Good luck and keep us posted...

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