65 deadlifts in one day? (5/3/1)

[JoeySon]

So I've just begun 5/3/1 and everything is great. I chose to do the BBB assistance work and with deadlift day approaching I have my concerns. I've never had any luck with high volume deadlifts and all it seems to do is give me a sore back. I've also heard a lot of people advise against doing high volume deadlifts so I'm wondering how to approach this.

I have the 5/3/1 book (2nd edition) and didn't see this answered anywhere within.

Thanks for the help guys

 

[Rodja]

This is the main reason I advise against the BBB template. I'm not a fan of high rep deads or bench.

 

[Sean1332]

Yes BBB is one of the templates you can use, and yes it will consist of the extra sets of deadlifts how Wendler prescribes. He wouldn't have put it in the book if you weren't supposed to do it. Keep in mind it's at a much lighter weight than your 5/3/1 sets.

I would recommend looking at the Periodization Bible or the Triumviant.

 

[JoeySon]

Yes BBB is one of the templates you can use, and yes it will consist of the extra sets of deadlifts how Wendler prescribes. He wouldn't have put it in the book if you weren't supposed to do it. Keep in mind it's at a much lighter weight than your 5/3/1 sets.

I would recommend looking at the Periodization Bible or the Triumviant.

I've heard a lot of good things about Tate's but not so sure I understand it. Are there any good links to check it out? And the triumviant is just two assistance excercises correct?

 

[Rodja]

I've heard a lot of good things about Tate's but not so sure I understand it. Are there any good links to check it out? And the triumviant is just two assistance excercises correct?

They're both well covered in the book.

 

[Sean1332]

^the book, and Wedler's website

 

[JoeySon]

They're both well covered in the book.

I don't see them anywhere in the 2nd edition, perhaps the first..

 

[Rodja]

I don't see them anywhere in the 2nd edition, perhaps the first..

Pg. 48-51. It's in the freaking ToC.

 

[JoeySon]

Pg. 48-51. It's in the freaking ToC.

I downloaded mine so I guess mine isn't complete because page 48 for my copy is "Meet Preparation Training for the Raw Lifter" Appreciate the help never the less

 

[Rodja]

I don't see them anywhere in the 2nd edition, perhaps the first..

Look in the assistance template section. They're templates #2 and #4.

 

[Torobestia]

Sounds like you're looking at the "5/3/1 for powerlifters" manual, not the "5/3/1 manual 2nd edition."

 

[JoeySon]

Look in the assistance template section. They're templates #2 and #4.

Yea my book only has one template in the assistance section. Looks like just a triumvirate template. Thanks for your help though

 

[JoeySon]

Sounds like you're looking at the "5/3/1 for powerlifters" manual, not the "5/3/1 manual 2nd edition."

Yup that's it..sorry for the confusion my bad guys

 

[boogyman]

I do BBB for bench and squat, and a different accessory template on deadlift and shoulder press day.

 

[napalm]

I do BBB for bench and squat, and a different accessory template on deadlift and shoulder press day.

This, I work up to triples w DL. 5 work sets.

 

[boogyman]

I have been doing zercher squats as an accessory to deadlifts and having good results. I do five sets of five at a moderate weight.

 

[napalm]

I have been doing zercher squats as an accessory to deadlifts and having good results. I do five sets of five at a moderate weight.

I've been thinking about these lately. What do you consider a moderate weight? Can't try them until my torn brachialis heals.

 

[boogyman]

I've been thinking about these lately. What do you consider a moderate weight? Can't try them until my torn brachialis heals.

As i had not done them since highschool, i started with 135 and added 10 lbs each session until i found a good weight. This way i could work on form, i try and get good reps concentrating on using lots of hip drive. I have been adding five lbs every mesocycle since finding my initial weight.

 

[napalm]

As i had not done them since highschool, i started with 135 and added 10 lbs each session until i found a good weight. This way i could work on form, i try and get good reps concentrating on using lots of hip drive. I have been adding five lbs every mesocycle since finding my initial weight.

How hard are they on the biceps?

 

[AZMIDLYF]

I don't find them too hard on the biceps. I just use my arms as a cradle and try not to squeeze it to me as hard.

 

[napalm]

I don't find them too hard on the biceps. I just use my arms as a cradle and try not to squeeze it to me as hard.

I'll have to give them a try after the brachialis heals.

 

[boogyman]

Its not that bad. Its not comfortable by any means, but its manageable.