Forearms don't seem to be growing as much?

[Thomasxavier]

Hello, I am looking for tips on growing the forearms to catch up with the rest.

I am on week 4.5 of test cyp, was 450mg a week, moved up to 600mg this week.

[ZiR RED]

Nearly all the muscles that flex your fingers (so you can grip things) have their muscle bellies in the forearm. Are you wearing straps for deadlifts, rows, pull ups, etc. If so, then there's your problem right there. If not, then get some fat gripz and start doing farmer's walks./

Br

[Thomasxavier]

Nearly all the muscles that flex your fingers (so you can grip things) have their muscle bellies in the forearm. Are you wearing straps for deadlifts, rows, pull ups, etc. If so, then there's your problem right there. If not, then get some fat gripz and start doing farmer's walks./

Br

Thanks friend. Can you recommend a farmer's walk workout that can be done at the gym?

[ZiR RED]

Grab some heavy dumbbells, if you have fatgripz then use those, if not you can always wrap a towel or something to increase bar diameter. Walk with it for 20-40 feet, turn, walk back. Do 4-6 of these at the end of your workout. You will also get some cardiovascular/conditioning out of the exercise as well.

[Thomasxavier]

Grab some heavy dumbbells, if you have fatgripz then use those, if not you can always wrap a towel or something to increase bar diameter. Walk with it for 20-40 feet, turn, walk back. Do 4-6 of these at the end of your workout. You will also get some cardiovascular/conditioning out of the exercise as well.

Thanks again, brother. You say this increases forearm size a lot? More than, say, reverse curls with your forearms?

[hossjob]

Reverse curls
hammer curls
wrist flexion/extension
Gripping

[ZiR RED]

Thanks again, brother. You say this increases forearm size a lot? More than, say, reverse curls with your forearms?

I wouldn't say more or less than reverse curls, but you will definitely note growth and improved strength with gripping. Most of the forearm muscle fibers are pennated at such an angle that they are not made to create a lot movement (as compared to the penation angles of say the hamstrings) but rather the create a lot of tension. Think about how the wrist flexors or extensors are involved during benching or curling, they are there to keep the wrists straight under a large load. The same goes for the finger flexors, you'll get maximum TUT with long gripping.

[Thomasxavier]

Thanks to you both.

Using a test cyp cycle, will you be able to increase wrist size in any way? I know it's difficult normally, and I was wondering if that's the case while on a cycle, too.

[ZiR RED]

Not likely, unless its due to severe water retention, in which case you'll probably get nerve impingement around the wrist...and, if there is serious water retention, it might also mean elevated blood pressure, which is of concern when on AAS.

The wrist is measurement is based predominantly on the distal radius and ulna (forearm bones) circumference.

[Thomasxavier]

Not likely, unless its due to severe water retention, in which case you'll probably get nerve impingement around the wrist...and, if there is serious water retention, it might also mean elevated blood pressure, which is of concern when on AAS.

The wrist is measurement is based predominantly on the distal radius and ulna (forearm bones) circumference.

Dang, how stupid is that gonna look then if my forearms get big and my wrists are small...?

[Rodja]

Dang, how stupid is that gonna look then if my forearms get big and my wrists are small...?

Isn't that the point of training for aesthetics: small bone structure with very developed muscle bellies?

[Thomasxavier]

Isn't that the point of training for aesthetics: small bone structure with very developed muscle bellies?

IDK about the average goal of the average user here but I don't want to turn into the hulk lol more about 185 lbs with 6% body fat

[Rodja]

IDK about the average goal of the average user here but I don't want to turn into the hulk lol more about 185 lbs with 6% body fat

The smaller wrist size will create the illusion of greater mass. The same thing applies to someone that is incredibly lean.

[Thomasxavier]

The smaller wrist size will create the illusion of greater mass. The same thing applies to someone that is incredibly lean.

So you consider it a good thing?

Realistically though, how much pressure could small wrists even take? Wouldn't that alone limit the amount of strength you could reach?

Because my wrists get pain more than anything else in my body. Sucks

[Rodja]

So you consider it a good thing?

Realistically though, how much pressure could small wrists even take? Wouldn't that alone limit the amount of strength you could reach?

Because my wrists get pain more than anything else in my body. Sucks

That's why you use wrist wraps.

[ZiR RED]

IDK about the average goal of the average user here but I don't want to turn into the hulk lol more about 185 lbs with 6% body fat

That can be achieved and maintained quite easily naturally.

[Thomasxavier]

That can be achieved and maintained quite easily naturally.

Well my natural test levels at 26 are like 220... I am about to follow the doctors advice and use massive amounts of human chorionic gonadotropin to get my levels naturally higher............. did a simple primabol cycle when I was younger, and was too naive back then to know what nolva/clomid were.... my PCT was over the counter stuff... fraid it may have messed me up... may have to use HCG

[ZiR RED]

Well my natural test levels at 26 are like 220... I am about to follow the doctors advice and use massive amounts of human chorionic gonadotropin to get my levels naturally higher.............

Is that really a MD's advise? I find that a bit hard to believe, given the rebound and desensitizing effects of large and frequent doses of HCG.

If your test levels are that low, and you think its problematic, why not go talk to a urologist who specializes in male reproduction and TRT?

If you are in the northeast: http://www.wernermd.com/index.php

Br

[Thomasxavier]

Is that really a MD's advise? I find that a bit hard to believe, given the rebound and desensitizing effects of large and frequent doses of HCG.

If your test levels are that low, and you think its problematic, why not go talk to a urologist who specializes in male reproduction and TRT?

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Br

TRT doesn't interest me, because I have no desire to be dependent on something for life.

Especially because I have had no symptoms of low testosterone. Sex drive, function, etc has always been normal. And I DID gain about 30 lbs of muscle naturally... but I'm referring to the one doctor, someone linked it here before about his studies where he injects 10,000 iu's for a month maybe? and it appeared to reverse the damage of AAS cycles...

I wish someone would link it. I know someone has it, the one dude that linked it was prominent here...


And I have been to a urologist lol that's how I got test cyp prescribed legally! He was plenty curious though when my blood work came back with a test level of 2200.

Speaking of which... my estrogen level was like 32, is that normal or should I use arimidex at a low dose for the remainder of the cycle

[ZiR RED]

TRT doesn't interest me, because I have no desire to be dependent on something for life.

Especially because I have had no symptoms of low testosterone. Sex drive, function, etc has always been normal. And I DID gain about 30 lbs of muscle naturally... but I'm referring to the one doctor, someone linked it here before about his studies where he injects 10,000 iu's for a month maybe? and it appeared to reverse the damage of AAS cycles...

I wish someone would link it. I know someone has it, the one dude that linked it was prominent here...


And I have been to a urologist lol that's how I got test cyp prescribed legally! He was plenty curious though when my blood work came back with a test level of 2200.

Speaking of which... my estrogen level was like 32, is that normal or should I use arimidex at a low dose for the remainder of the cycle

There is just so much wrong with this...

First, what do you think a prescription of test cyp is if not TRT? And what do you expect to happen to your own natural production if you continue to shut it down with supraphysiological amounts?

Second, blindly following the advise of an online Dr (is he even an MD??) who is not familiar with your own situation.....

Wow

Br