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  1.  07-24-2012  12:32 PM
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    Deads are stalled on 531


    Any idea why? I'm doing it right (90% of my 1rm) and doing it accordingly from there. My form was corrected recently by squeezing my shoulder blades and taking the strain off my lower back. That seemed to help a bit but my 1 rep max Hasn't been going up at all and it's been about 1.5-2 months.



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    That's weird...my deads have gone up like 70lbs on 5/3/1.

    For assistance, are you doing:

    Kroc Rows?

    Hanging Leg Raises?

    Good Mornings?

    Hamstring Curls?

    Those have healed me a lot to get more strength! If not, try some deficit deadlifts OR chains/bands added to them, depending on where the weakness lies. Either on the beginning of the motion OR the lockout. Hope this helps!
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    Try rack pulls!! start below the knee and every week bring it lower till you hit the floor!
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    Have your squats gone up at all?

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    Originally Posted by Celorza
    That's weird...my deads have gone up like 70lbs on 5/3/1.

    For assistance, are you doing:

    Kroc Rows?

    Hanging Leg Raises?

    Good Mornings?

    Hamstring Curls?

    Those have healed me a lot to get more strength! If not, try some deficit deadlifts OR chains/bands added to them, depending on where the weakness lies. Either on the beginning of the motion OR the lockout. Hope this helps!
    After deads I do lat pull downs then seated rows. And if I have enough time I'll do dumbbell rows. And if I remember I'll do straight arm press downs. Really trying to build the lats hoping that could be where my problem lies

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    Originally Posted by benmayro
    Try rack pulls!! start below the knee and every week bring it lower till you hit the floor!
    I was doing rack pulls but I'm 6'3 so it's hard to find a setting where I'm not arching my back but where I can keep the bar at my shins

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    Originally Posted by Mitch5
    Have your squats gone up at all?
    Squats are about the same too though. I've been lacking really pushing my legs though. I play a lot of hockey and leg day is usually game day. Not an excuse but maybe that could be where the problem lies?

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    Originally Posted by kokobeware2 View Post
    After deads I do lat pull downs then seated rows. And if I have enough time I'll do dumbbell rows. And if I remember I'll do straight arm press downs. Really trying to build the lats hoping that could be where my problem lies
    Every tried changing those Pulldowns for Chin Ups or Pull ups? And yeah, try to get those Kroc Rows (Single Arm Dumbbell Rows) I've seen a huge improvement in my Deadlifts thanks to them
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    Vids or this post is useless...

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    Originally Posted by kokobeware2 View Post
    After deads I do lat pull downs then seated rows. And if I have enough time I'll do dumbbell rows. And if I remember I'll do straight arm press downs. Really trying to build the lats hoping that could be where my problem lies
    You're not following the template at all. You're working muscles and not movements. Do you have the book?
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    It could be, squats and deads are very correlated and if you work on your squats ( which will work legs/core etc) it will no doubt help your deads. Doing 5 sets of 3 or 5x5 on both squats/deads along with all the other things ppl have recommended you should be fine

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    Originally Posted by Celorza
    Every tried changing those Pulldowns for Chin Ups or Pull ups? And yeah, try to get those Kroc Rows (Single Arm Dumbbell Rows) I've seen a huge improvement in my Deadlifts thanks to them
    No I've been meaning to try something different. Tomorrow I'll try it again and see what I can do. For Kroc rows do you kneel on the bench?

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    Originally Posted by napalm
    Vids or this post is useless...
    Been meaning too but I usually work out alone

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    Originally Posted by Rodja

    You're not following the template at all. You're working muscles and not movements. Do you have the book?
    I don't know. Give me some insight?

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    Originally Posted by Mitch5
    It could be, squats and deads are very correlated and if you work on your squats ( which will work legs/core etc) it will no doubt help your deads. Doing 5 sets of 3 or 5x5 on both squats/deads along with all the other things ppl have recommended you should be fine
    Yeah. I feel as if my Hams are growing more quads are as well just not as much.

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    Originally Posted by kokobeware2 View Post
    I don't know. Give me some insight?
    Buy the book. It answers every element of 5/3/1.
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    Front squats are great for lacking quads

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    Lungess!! they helped me alot! with the barbell and dumbbells.. i rotate them in
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/198788-highschool-athlete-thread.html

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    Originally Posted by benmayro
    Lungess!! they helped me alot! with the barbell and dumbbells.. i rotate them in
    Also a great idea

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