Training and Fasting

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345 View Post
    well a $100 for me, to manage is a bit difficult... I don't earn nor do I get a fixed pocketmoney... but still I think I can manage some money after fasting on the eve of EID.

    we'll see.

    from which web u ordered?
    I use Ebay to buy everything... If you don't use supplements usually & also if cash is an issue, try using a good PWO to begin with...


  2. so how would one minimise cortisol after training before breaking the fast.
    assume: training at 7am, finish by 8:30am (5x5 and then cardio)
    break fast, 1-8pm...
    thoughts if "CORTISOL" is what we are trying to reduce especially for abs
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    What hours of the day are you fasting zubda? Just the daylight hours? If so are you eating prior to sunup?
    Well I eat before sunrise (can't eat after that).. that is like just before 4am. 5-10 mins before, and after some days it'll go past 4am too I guess.

    and I break the fast AT sunset that is like 6:58pm (which was today) so I guess yeah, it's only the daylight hours!

    I usually start to eat at 3:20am or some time like that, but if I am hungry before that I might also eat at that time...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  4. Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    I use Ebay to buy everything... If you don't use supplements usually & also if cash is an issue, try using a good PWO to begin with...
    Usually ebay.com don't ship where I live....

    well I have used SOME supplements before...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  5. I am soo soo damn pissed off! I am all angry at my family members! They won't give me money, won't buy me a bike! and when it's my time to go to the gym it's either they give me some work to do or they need the bike and it's unavailable and I can't go to the gym! it's happens ALOT! I can't go to the gym WHEN I want to often! Now today my father took the bike and returned home at 10:30pm when the gym is closed!

    I really badly wanted to train today! I got in me proteins to break the fast and I was ready to hit it hard today!


    ****IN UNPLANNED OFF DAY!!
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    so how would one minimise cortisol after training before breaking the fast.
    assume: training at 7am, finish by 8:30am (5x5 and then cardio)
    break fast, 1-8pm...
    thoughts if "CORTISOL" is what we are trying to reduce especially for abs
    Cortisol during/after weight training isn't really something to be feared about unless your doing a 2 hour high volume high intensity workout aka marathon workouts, I see your doing a 5x5 protocol then cardio(how long? high or low intensity?), which isn't going to be too stressful so I wouldn't worry too much, it really comes down to getting in your daily macro nutrients, if you got them the day before and your not killing yourself in the gym you should be fine.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345

    Well I eat before sunrise (can't eat after that).. that is like just before 4am. 5-10 mins before, and after some days it'll go past 4am too I guess.

    and I break the fast AT sunset that is like 6:58pm (which was today) so I guess yeah, it's only the daylight hours!

    I usually start to eat at 3:20am or some time like that, but if I am hungry before that I might also eat at that time...
    Why don't you try the warrior diet? It would fit into you Ramadan fasting. It's 20hrs straight fasting with a four hour feeding window. That way your not breaking your fast in the morning. muscle catabolism will not occur until over 36 hours from memory.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000

    Why don't you try the warrior diet? It would fit into you Ramadan fasting. It's 20hrs straight fasting with a four hour feeding window. That way your not breaking your fast in the morning. muscle catabolism will not occur until over 36 hours from memory.
    How is that good for muscle growth?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by yazan

    How is that good for muscle growth?
    Just because it's a small feeding window doesn't mean you eat any less food. You just have a lot of food in 1 - 2 big meals. One of the major benefits of fasting is it's effect on HGH. Fasting long periods can increase HGH by up to 200%.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by yazan View Post
    How is that good for muscle growth?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Just because it's a small feeding window doesn't mean you eat any less food. You just have a lot of food in 1 - 2 big meals. One of the major benefits of fasting is it's effect on HGH. Fasting long periods can increase HGH by up to 200%.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Why don't you try the warrior diet? It would fit into you Ramadan fasting. It's 20hrs straight fasting with a four hour feeding window. That way your not breaking your fast in the morning. muscle catabolism will not occur until over 36 hours from memory.
    Well.... I think I can do that, but sometimes in this 15.5-16hours of fast I feel a bit hungry... and if I decide to do it I'll prolly have to manage ALOT of healthy and good foods + green salad to help me NOT feel bloated... I don't think I'll just start it right on, I'll think about it today and then post up what I thought....
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  11. You need to see horizon, bbc documentary. 'eat, fast, live long'

  12. Today to break the fast I had a Fried Chicken breast, some salad, a lil fruits, pulses, and baked white bread.

    TRAINING:

    Delts:
    Behind the back standing shoulder presses: 25kg x 10 (smooth and controlled)
    Seated dumbbell presses: 18kg dumbbell pair x 8 reps.
    Side laterals: 10kg dumbbell pair x 10 reps. (Not letting the dumbbells hit my legs, controlling and keeping tension on em)
    Reverse pec dec: 7plates x 10 reps.
    Barbell Incline front raises: fat bar without weights x 12 reps (THIS - KILLS!)
    Wide grip upright rows: 20kgx10 reps. (end 3 reps were hard)

    NOTE: This is what I was SUPPOSED to do yesterday!

    after gym had a glass of milk, and after 2 hours of that had an icecream and 100grams of noodles (70grams carbs + 10grams proteins)
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  13. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345
    Today to break the fast I had a Fried Chicken breast, some salad, a lil fruits, pulses, and baked white bread.

    TRAINING:

    Delts:
    Behind the back standing shoulder presses: 25kg x 10 (smooth and controlled)
    Seated dumbbell presses: 18kg dumbbell pair x 8 reps.
    Side laterals: 10kg dumbbell pair x 10 reps. (Not letting the dumbbells hit my legs, controlling and keeping tension on em)
    Reverse pec dec: 7plates x 10 reps.
    Barbell Incline front raises: fat bar without weights x 12 reps (THIS - KILLS!)
    Wide grip upright rows: 20kgx10 reps. (end 3 reps were hard)

    NOTE: This is what I was SUPPOSED to do yesterday!

    after gym had a glass of milk, and after 2 hours of that had an icecream and 100grams of noodles (70grams carbs + 10grams proteins)
    So are you managing with getting your calories in now? I'm still struggling with that, but my workouts are going great...

    My arms have gained & my chest measurement is down only due to fat loss though, so it's a good thing... Got to get all my measurements done... I'm just to lazy... I do girth measurements too often on other people... I prefer the mirror & measuring my performance...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by RogerBob View Post
    You need to see horizon, bbc documentary. 'eat, fast, live long'
    I searched it on youtube... it's like a 5 minutes video only...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  15. Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    So are you managing with getting your calories in now? I'm still struggling with that, but my workouts are going great...

    My arms have gained & my chest measurement is down only due to fat loss though, so it's a good thing... Got to get all my measurements done... I'm just to lazy... I do girth measurements too often on other people... I prefer the mirror & measuring my performance...
    Naah man... I am also struggling with it... workouts are good thou...

    That great to know that u have gained muscle and lost fat.... Mirror is better!


    if i see myself I feel that my arms are commin up but I won't take it as growing just yet...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  16. To break the fast today: dates, fries, pattie, milk with soda LIL FOOD SUCKS :/

    GYM - LEGS:

    BARBELL SQUATS (NARROW STANCE): 40kgx10 50kgx8

    WIDE LEG PRESS: 200kgx10+10

    LOW FOOD TODAY BUT DANG ALOT OF WATER! Water makes me bloated :P


    @BLaQz You see now... real low food :/

    sometimes I can manage and sometimes I can't :/

    I gotta get me a JOB!
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  17. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345 View Post
    Well.... I think I can do that, but sometimes in this 15.5-16hours of fast I feel a bit hungry... and if I decide to do it I'll prolly have to manage ALOT of healthy and good foods + green salad to help me NOT feel bloated... I don't think I'll just start it right on, I'll think about it today and then post up what I thought....
    I thought about it! It's that I can't make myself do that from tomorrow, to do that I'll have to extend it (my fasting time) slowly... Like form 16 hours (in which I do feel hungry if I am not sleeping/slept for like 7-8 hours of my fast) to 17 hours and make it go all that way to 20hours...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  18. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345 View Post
    To break the fast today: dates, fries, pattie, milk with soda LIL FOOD SUCKS :/

    GYM - LEGS:

    BARBELL SQUATS (NARROW STANCE): 40kgx10 50kgx8

    WIDE LEG PRESS: 200kgx10+10

    LOW FOOD TODAY BUT DANG ALOT OF WATER! Water makes me bloated :P


    @BLaQz You see now... real low food :/

    sometimes I can manage and sometimes I can't :/

    I gotta get me a JOB!
    Do it! Don't say it! Do it!
    *LG Sciences Board Rep*
    Changing Lives is what I crave.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345 View Post
    To break the fast today: dates, fries, pattie, milk with soda LIL FOOD SUCKS :/

    GYM - LEGS:

    BARBELL SQUATS (NARROW STANCE): 40kgx10 50kgx8

    WIDE LEG PRESS: 200kgx10+10

    LOW FOOD TODAY BUT DANG ALOT OF WATER! Water makes me bloated :P


    @BLaQz You see now... real low food :/

    sometimes I can manage and sometimes I can't :/

    I gotta get me a JOB!
    Do it! Don't say it! Do it!
    *LG Sciences Board Rep*
    Changing Lives is what I crave.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by TheHardOne View Post
    Do it! Don't say it! Do it!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHardOne View Post
    Do it! Don't say it! Do it!
    I'll Do it twice now

    yes man I have applied for an advertisment job... will know if I am appointed in a week.
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  21. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345

    I'll Do it twice now

    yes man I have applied for an advertisment job... will know if I am appointed in a week.
    Good luck with the job...

  22. Quote Originally Posted by zubda345

    Well.... I think I can do that, but sometimes in this 15.5-16hours of fast I feel a bit hungry... and if I decide to do it I'll prolly have to manage ALOT of healthy and good foods + green salad to help me NOT feel bloated... I don't think I'll just start it right on, I'll think about it today and then post up what I thought....
    Remember if your going to be fasting you should fast the same time every day so your body can become accustomed to when it's time to eat. Since you've only been fasting daylight hours but you've been eating after sunset and before sun up your not really fasting the full 16 hrs or so. Make sure you actually fast the whole time straight so you get the maximum benefits

  23. Well... Yesterday my internet connection was all messed up... couldn't get here...

    I took an off day yesterday ate goo, slept well...

    Now it's been about 80mins since I broke the fast... Had some nuggets a bit of more fried food, mashed eggs and potatoes, a lil fruit and salad...

    Gonna go to the gym in like 20-30 mins.. it's gonna be a makeup day or prolly a power hit day today...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Remember if your going to be fasting you should fast the same time every day so your body can become accustomed to when it's time to eat. Since you've only been fasting daylight hours but you've been eating after sunset and before sun up your not really fasting the full 16 hrs or so. Make sure you actually fast the whole time straight so you get the maximum benefits
    I am fastinh for 15 hours now.... I was fasting for like 15hours and 45 mins before...

    what do you mean I don't get you...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP

  25. Ate good today.

    Did a high threshold workout today...

    Seated overhead presses: 5 sets for 1-2 reps each
    standing push presses: 7 sets for 1-3 reps each
    seated shoulder press: 6 sets for 2 reps each

    Barbell power cleans: 3 sets for 5 reps each. (Light weight) (was totally gassed at this point...)

    reverse pec dec: 3 x 8
    side laterals: 12kg dumbbell pair 3 sets for 8 reps each
    Seated dumbbell presses: 15kg dumbbell 2 sets for 8 reps

    that was too many reps I don't exactly remember my weights I did... so not gonna post the numbersss...
    WORK-EAT-LIFT-MMA-SLEEP
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