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    I alternate straightbar and hexbar deadlift due to my enjoyment if both and my coach, obviously you should do more with the hexbar but i want to know how much so ima performing an expirement and you lovely gentlemans will be my sample, if you have deadlift both ways will you please tell me your numbers here or pm them
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    I actually think I do more with a straight bar than a hex, though its not much. Maybe 465 to 485 last time I maxed either.

    I like the hex-bar for higher rep dead lifts.

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    I haven't done hex bar in ages. Last I remember the one my high school had didn't hold much weight though. I am sure there are ones made to handle more weight. I recall hex bar being easier for me.
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    I can do about the same on both but the hex is easier on the lift. The straight is easier on the grip.
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    Some might hate me saying this but "hexbar deadlifts" is kind of a misnomer as they are more of a squat than a deadlift (almost exactly the same movement as a hack squat). Depending on how your squat compares with your deadlift the same should hold between the hex DL and your straightbar DL.
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    Hex bar is kind of a "deadsquat." I like it especially during busy periods at the gym because while everything else is in use, it just sits there because nobody knows what to do with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidoious View Post
    Hex bar is kind of a "deadsquat."
    I can dig it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    Some might hate me saying this but "hexbar deadlifts" is kind of a misnomer as they are more of a squat than a deadlift (almost exactly the same movement as a hack squat). Depending on how your squat compares with your deadlift the same should hold between the hex DL and your straightbar DL.
    I have to disagree because of where you start. With the hexbar whatever your legs arent in a squat position(much higher than a squat). I havent done hex bar whatevers in a long time, but I remember doing more on it than deadlifts. And my deadlift crushes my squat.
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    Hand positioning on the hex bar reminds me of farmer's walks. If you have strong lats you can probably finish your hex lifts easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    I have to disagree because of where you start. With the hexbar whatever your legs arent in a squat position(much higher than a squat). I havent done hex bar whatevers in a long time, but I remember doing more on it than deadlifts. And my deadlift crushes my squat.
    The fact the bar is in a dead position changes things, but the movement is a squat, not a deadlift. Important in the distinction is that the weight is in front of you in a deadlift whereas it's centered in a squat. Much like a good morning mimics the deadlift even though the weight is on your back, the hexbar mimics the squat even though the weight is in your hands. And in a way, I guess both the GM and the hex are somewhat of a hybrid, but a hex shouldn't be directly compared to a straightbar DL, especially a conventional DL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    The fact the bar is in a dead position changes things, but the movement is a squat, not a deadlift. Important in the distinction is that the weight is in front of you in a deadlift whereas it's centered in a squat. Much like a good morning mimics the deadlift even though the weight is on your back, the hexbar mimics the squat even though the weight is in your hands. And in a way, I guess both the GM and the hex are somewhat of a hybrid, but a hex shouldn't be directly compared to a straightbar DL, especially a conventional DL.
    Idk like I said I dont ever do it anymore. The starting position looks like a quarter squat to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Idk like I said I dont ever do it anymore. The starting position looks like a quarter squat to me.
    I just re-read your post and mine and realized that I might have misunderstood you (I assume you were talking about my point about the difference in strength between squat and hex and hex vs straight?). If so, you might be right in that it's not so straight forward in that respect. That part was just me speculating. I know my hex is also stronger than my straightbar. How much is your quarter squat? lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    I just re-read your post and mine and realized that I might have misunderstood you (I assume you were talking about my point about the difference in strength between squat and hex and hex vs straight?). If so, you might be right in that it's not so straight forward in that respect. That part was just me speculating. I know my hex is also stronger than my straightbar. How much is your quarter squat? lol.
    Haha not a clue on my quarter squat. I did see an old man do some mean quarter squats with 495. It sounded like he was in a prison shower if you catch my drift haha.
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    Since I DL sumo style I don't have a use for hex-bar.
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    Hex bar is useful too for some upper body exercises like shrugs and rows too. A bit of a different motion.
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    It's kind of hard, but I used a hexbar for very short paced farmer's walks when I really wanted to go heavy on them. Running around with 110lb dbs wasn't as challenging after a point and I'd just go for 200-300ft laps, which wasn't what I wanted to do (I wanted to do the most challenging weight for 100ft).
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    I can imagine your legs would keep hitting the bar as you walked!
  

  
 

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