Struggling to increase my bench press max
- 06-26-2012, 03:29 PM
- 06-26-2012, 04:21 PM
have you checked your form? here is a great link to show you how to bench.
are you fast? in other words can you lift explosively. do have a speed day for bench?
maybe you need to stop benching with a straight bar on a flat bench and use some variations. find a variation that you suck at the most. maybe use your weak point in the bench. you could try:
and any combination of those as well.
try putting some mass on weak links and then getting those links stronger with that extra mass. if you are not sure what they are then work your traps, rhomboids, shoulders, and lats.
without knowing more information that is about as precise as i can get.you can call me "ozzie" for short.
- 06-26-2012, 04:22 PM
I've gotten my bench from 375lbs to 420lbs in a short amount of time by using heavy drop sets working in the 3 rep max zone. Time off or heavy every other week has worked well too. Having a good spotter makes a big difference. Add in high seated rows ( heavy) with a lat bar, elbows up somewhere in your back routine
06-26-2012, 05:21 PM
i swear by the buckeye, my bench was 185 in january and 285 now.
06-27-2012, 04:27 AM
I've been stuck on 140 kg 4 a rep 4 absouloute ages I've tried everything
06-27-2012, 06:41 AM
Description of current routine?
06-27-2012, 08:00 AM
- 5'10" 220 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jan 2006
I can say with almost 100% certainty that it'll be technique. The routine is almost secondary to the technique.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
06-27-2012, 10:20 AM
Well ATM am doing 125 for 3 sets of 5 and am trying to increase the weight by 2.5 kg every week,I'm then doing incline and decline bench press for sets of 10 and then incline dumbells heavy sets of 5 reps then a lot of different kind of flies
06-27-2012, 10:27 AM
How are you doing the bench? Free weights, machine, free weights rack? If you are doing free weights and don't have a workout partner you may not be pushing yourself enough. If you are using a machine then switch it up to barbell free weights because it recruits way more muscles.
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06-27-2012, 10:50 AM
I am doing free weight I've been doing this 4 the last 3 weeks I have moved up from 115 kg in 3 weeks time to 125
06-27-2012, 10:55 AM
Free weights and no a don't have a spotter will try with a spotter 4 a few weeks see how it goes
06-27-2012, 01:43 PM
- 5'10" 220 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jan 2006
06-27-2012, 04:00 PM
06-27-2012, 05:33 PM
YEah, that routine just sounds like your trying to build a bigger chest rather than a bigger bench. Chest is only ONE of the muscle groups working during a bench, you want a bigger bench, focus on the other muscles too.
Bigger lats, Tris will do the job. Also remember that the anterior deltiod is recruited during a bench press, but with that in mind, chances are, if technique isnt on the money, you'll be using your anterior deltiod much more than chest (hence the burning sensation in the deltiod as you push upward).
06-27-2012, 06:37 PM
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
06-27-2012, 07:02 PM
06-28-2012, 09:04 AM
What would you recomend as the best strength training routine for me
06-28-2012, 04:11 PM
for example, you can have 2 bench workouts. a ME and a DE day. you will always do RE work after the DE/ME work.
on ME day you work up to 3 work sets of 1-5 reps. dont just always do 1 rep maxes. the first attempt should be just above 90%. use this as a test to see where you are at that day. the second set should be at or just shy of a PR. the 3rd set should set a new PR. and try not to do just bench. find a variation that you know increases your bench, like close grip of you need to work on triceps, incline if you need more shoulders, floor press of you have issue locking out, paused or wide grip if you are weak off the chest, etc. and cycle these every 3 weeks or less. over time you will have lots of PRs and you will know when you are getting better.
for ME day for about 4 weeks aim for 3-5 rep maxes. take a deload week then spend 2-4 weeks trying 1-2 rep maxes. deload and repeat. over time you may find you can longer or shorter for the 3-5 max phase. you may not even need a deload at the end. but if you do not need a deload on the 1-2 max phase it either wasnt long enough or you did not push near hard enough.
for DE day use 40-80% and do 2-3 reps. matching the above phases, on the 3-5 max phase use lighter percentages and a lot more volume. like 15-20 sets of 2-3 with minimal rest. time yourself to complete all the sets and each time try and beat that time or use more weight with the same time. this is all about explosion and speed. when you cannot go so fast that you are throwing the weight out of your hands then you need to stop. and start off light. each week up the percentages 5-10%. for example on week 1 do 40%, then 45%, 50%, 55%.
then during the 1-2 rep max phase you drop down to 8-12 sets but up the weight used. go 60%, 65%, 70%. you can even add chains or bands. and do the flat bench here. practice the movement on the DE day. learn to grease the groove.
for the RE work, follow the 2 phases from above. the 3-5 and the 1-2 rep max phase. for 3-5 use general strengthening, nothing specific. in other words just get stronger. work overheads, rows, chinups, etc. use higher rep and higher volume so you can increase work capacity as well as size of the muscles.
RE work during the 1-2 rep max phase focus on just your weak link. like if you cannot keep your upper back tight during a 5 rep max day then hit your traps with as many sets of 3-8 as you can. hammer them hard. you can also do a variation of bench, one for example that you really suck at for some sets of 5 or 6 for some hard effort volume after the DE or ME work.
the lifts you will use are unique to you. you have to find them or find someone knowledgeable in strength sports to help you find them. the reps/sets you use are unique to you. you need to find what works for you. and this can change over time as you strengthen the weak links and find new ones.
does this make sense?
you can call me "ozzie" for short.
06-30-2012, 08:14 PM
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