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| Resident Paranoid Extremist Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 32
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| Get big or die trying Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the edge Age: 27
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Personally I would take Arnold's look any day over today's body builders. I just watched colemans video, and his gut hung over his belt about 3-4 inches. You never see body builders today doing a vaccuum pose, because they can't. | |
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| Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 33
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Friends: (0) Leave Comment Rep Power: 0 ![]() | " You never see body builders today doing a vaccuum pose, because they can't." This is true...at least of the heavyweights. My favorite Arnold shots are the ones from the side where he's half turning in a double-bicep pose, and his stomach/waist area just disappears to nothing...such a dramatic change from stacked upper body. You don't see guys with this sort of shape very often. Frank Zane had that slender waist/wide soulder/back going on, too. I prefer it, aesthetically. That said...I just watched Cost of Redemption, too (available on Suprnova right now, along with LevorneM3). Damn...Ronnie is insanely large. After pumping up, we pulls off his shirt and does some posing. It doesn't even look possible. That dude is so huge...as long as that is the deciding factor at the O, he will keep winning until he retires. By comparison, Cutler looks silly in his poses that attempt to make him look larger...Coleman is just a monster. The massive amoutns of muslce fit his frame well. OTOH, Cutler looks like a Cromagnum Man now. (If 'hugeness' is all that matters, I'd love to see Markus Ruhl place higher-->he looks like a tiny head on a giant muscle suit, like something from a comic book) |
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| ego killer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 30
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| Not to change the thread topic, but I think Ruhl is badly misproportioned. 155lbs incline dumbbells x 9 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4vGkrhSSSA 585lbs squat x 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=q0rpQLZT1I0 Werewolves vs. Vampires - forsakenclans.com |
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| Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 33
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Friends: (0) Leave Comment Rep Power: 0 ![]() | As in wide-waisted? Explain...or let's start a new thread?! I'll admit, I haven't seen him in a lot of contests, but in terms of mass I've seen from photos and his video, it's scary...and so his his man/woman training partner...wow...she'd beat most lower-weight class men...and that's only in the beard-judging competition. |
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| At Joe's Fruit Stand Board Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southwest Florida Age: 36
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Everyone within that circle knows his favorites were Primo and Dbol. As for SERMS and PCT, it was hardly ever used and NOTHING compared to today. Many of those guys would go into contest getting bigger, unlike today where they get huge during the offseason then cut down. Back then Arnold actually put ON weight before several of his contests (especially when he came back for 1980). It was compeltely differen back then. Giddyup! | |
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| Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 27
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Then why haven't we seen more of them with gyno? Xtreme_Jordan @ comcast .net Super Cissus Rx™ sponsored by USPlabs™ You can't inject intensity... OVERCOME | |
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| At Joe's Fruit Stand Board Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southwest Florida Age: 36
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| They used half of what most people use today. A high dose of Dbol back then was 25mg and they certainly weren't taking grams of testosterone. Giddyup! |
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| Registered User | i have to agree with sticks and say that arnolds look was alot better than colemans look is now. hes to big and personally i thought he looked better 3 years back. and i also think that if arnold would be competing today and using AAS like pros are now, he would be the best, the guys gentics were just sick. |
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| My P3N1Z is chafed. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marklar Age: 26
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| The latest I've seen of Coleman, he seems as if he's getting that "my organs are shutting down" look about him. Quite scary, IMHO. Arnold did have the best physique ever IMHO, as in combination of aesthetics and mass. I only wish that they would have emphasized quads, glutes, and hams more back them. It would have been nice to see what he could have pulled off. (Arnold seriously lacked when it came to his upper legs. In that era, I believe Segio Oliva had the legs to beat.) As for this routine of arnolds...how did he ever get that big? I'd look like a raisin if I started to work out that much... |
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| Get big or die trying Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the edge Age: 27
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| I think this routine shows just how great arnold's genetics really are. He could have been a real monster if he had access to today's information regarding training/diet. I'm actually glad that Arnold competed when he did b/c if not he would probably have the same weird looking physique that is common among heavy weights today. Although coleman is MUCH bigger Arnold is still the greatest. |
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| My P3N1Z is chafed. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marklar Age: 26
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| 1979 was Platz' first Olympia, Oliva's career ended almost a decade earlier (not counting his attempted comback in the 80's), so I didn't really count him in that era. 1979 is damn close to 1980 and I pretty much keep those folks separated from the 1960's and 1970's ppl. Yes, Arnold did take an Olympia in 1980, but his career, IMHO, was ended in 75. But, if you do consider Platz to be of the same era, yeah...platz had "the legs". Oh, and maybe I exaggerated when I said "seriously lacking" when referring to arnold's legs, but I think they definatley could have been bigger. |
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| on a quest to deadlift 600 Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 26
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| arnold is definitely my favorite no doubt about it serge nubret deserves some props too fantastic physique just phenomenal genetics my favorite today is definitely dexter jackson not a mass freak by any standard but great lines and looks awesome Last edited by glenihan; 09-17-2006 at 07:51 PM. |
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| My P3N1Z is chafed. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marklar Age: 26
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| Serge Nubret was freggin' great! I think it's a crime he never was able to take an Olympia title. He has my 2nd favorite physique, and still, I wonder whether or not Arnolds really was better than his... |
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| Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 33
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Friends: (0) Leave Comment Rep Power: 0 ![]() | DAMN...I hadn't seen a picture of Nubret in a long time. Incredible, proportional physique. Those are my bodybuilding ideals as well...I'd love to have Arnold's proportion and symmetry at about 220. I still want to be able to play sports and stuff! Ronnie can hardly run at his 300+ weight. I wonder if all the GH and new drugs are part of the reason the midsections on the current mass monsters are so bloated...I mean, even when they are ripped down, if you measured from their back to the front of their abs, they're WAY thicker than any of those photos posted above. |
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| Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Age: 37
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Ruhl is a FREAK size is a fictitious character. Respect yourself and others will respect you. | |
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| Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Age: 37
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size is a fictitious character. Respect yourself and others will respect you. | |
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