Pumps.....for looks only?
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03-16-2012 09:35 AM
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Pumps.....for looks only?
Ok, here goes: A large percentage of the supps out there contain some marketing jargon about epic maximum volume skin splitting pumps, or something like that.
Now, the added 'pump' you get from any of these supps....is it really doing you any good besides making you look fuller for a couple hours? In other words, is it just a temporary vanity thing or do the pumps do something physiologically to add to permanent lean mass gains?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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03-16-2012 09:38 AM
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first off its a marketing tactic, products like agmatine have added benefits outside of just "pumps"
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03-16-2012 01:32 PM
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The pump itself can be good for your muscle in that it stretches the fascia. But with proper training techniques you can get insane pumps without any supps.
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03-16-2012 01:56 PM
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This is a hotly debated topic and no one really knows the answer from a scientific standpoint.
So I look at it like this ...
PUMPS DO HELP YOU BUILD MUSCLE through motivating the individual psychologically.
To understand this - you need to go back to the bible of bodybuilding, the Holy Grail of muscle building.
Yes, that's right - I'm talking about the movie ... PUMPING IRON!
In that movie, Arnold talks about "getting pumped" and what a "great feeling" it is. He talks about his skin feeling so stretched ... as if his muscles were about to rip through his skin. You can tell in eyes that Arnold really "gets off" on this feeling.
So if you lift and get pumped - and groove on looking at yourself in the mirror after a hard set - and if you like what it visibly did to your physique - you are more than likely going to come back for another round of lifting the next day.
I will tell you flat out - I've been working out in gyms for 30 years and sometimes it can be tough to motivate yourself to get in there and lift - and put all you have into it. Anything that makes you want to go into the gym and go at it is helping you build muscle.
I think gyms have figured this out too. They all have mirrors everywhere in the pump rooms. Yeah, the trainers will tell you they are there so you can watch your "form" ... riiiiiiight. Well, I've been lifting so long I know the proper form for a deadlift in my sleep - I don't need no mirror and I believe that Coach Rippetoe even says don't watch your form for deadlift in a mirror, if I remember correctly.
I'm not watching my form ... I'm thinking ... "ONE!" (Goddam ... look at my ****ing shoulders!) ... "TWO" (**** my anterior heads are bigger than my ****ing head!!) ... "THREE!" (Mother **** ... that chick is checking my ass out behind me!)
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03-18-2012 06:57 PM
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Train with high intensity and you can get pump for free dunno why some people are willing to spend that amount of cash for a pump you don't even get to take it home as soon as you get home that $ 50 pump is already gone! If I was to spend that much on a pump it's gona be on my vacation and it's gona be the other kind of pump. ; ) as far as marketing yep some of this things that promise something new is just a repacked jack3d with some kind of carbs or chemical that you won't even notice the difference but the price!
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03-18-2012 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
HondaV65
This is a hotly debated topic and no one really knows the answer from a scientific standpoint.
So I look at it like this ...
PUMPS DO HELP YOU BUILD MUSCLE through motivating the individual psychologically.
To understand this - you need to go back to the bible of bodybuilding, the Holy Grail of muscle building.
Yes, that's right - I'm talking about the movie ... PUMPING IRON!
In that movie, Arnold talks about "getting pumped" and what a "great feeling" it is. He talks about his skin feeling so stretched ... as if his muscles were about to rip through his skin. You can tell in eyes that Arnold really "gets off" on this feeling.
So if you lift and get pumped - and groove on looking at yourself in the mirror after a hard set - and if you like what it visibly did to your physique - you are more than likely going to come back for another round of lifting the next day.
I will tell you flat out - I've been working out in gyms for 30 years and sometimes it can be tough to motivate yourself to get in there and lift - and put all you have into it. Anything that makes you want to go into the gym and go at it is helping you build muscle.
I think gyms have figured this out too. They all have mirrors everywhere in the pump rooms. Yeah, the trainers will tell you they are there so you can watch your "form" ... riiiiiiight. Well, I've been lifting so long I know the proper form for a deadlift in my sleep - I don't need no mirror and I believe that Coach Rippetoe even says don't watch your form for deadlift in a mirror, if I remember correctly.
I'm not watching my form ... I'm thinking ... "ONE!" (Goddam ... look at my ****ing shoulders!) ... "TWO" (**** my anterior heads are bigger than my ****ing head!!) ... "THREE!" (Mother **** ... that chick is checking my ass out behind me!)
Nothing more better then the pump, weather it be on a placebo basis, or scientifically proven. Either way when i lift i try to lift as heavy as possible with moderate reps and try to pump as much blood into the muscle at the same time!
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03-18-2012 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Strygwyr
If I was to spend that much on a pump it's gona be on my vacation and it's gona be the other kind of pump. ; )
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03-18-2012 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
Strygwyr
If I was to spend that much on a pump it's gona be on my vacation and it's gona be the other kind of pump. ; )

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03-18-2012 09:44 PM
Purus Power Buildin'
I'm a huge fan of pump products. I love looking full. Honestly it keeps me motivated.
Right now I'm using Nitrix by BSN which is said to try and enhance and all day.... Too early to tell but we will see.
If not keep lifting high reps or some heavy weight to get that full pumped look, and true after and hour or 2 it'll start to fade.
Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep} Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting. www.InsaneVeins.com
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03-18-2012 09:48 PM
PES Rep
Taking blood away from organs to the muscles for an extended length of time is a great idea.
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03-18-2012 09:59 PM
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I don't care for pumps. I particularly hate them when training back/biceps. They are cosmetic, some like looking full.
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03-18-2012 10:00 PM
Purus Power Buildin'
Originally Posted by fadi
I don't care for pumps. I particularly hate them when training back/biceps. They are cosmetic, some like looking full.
I do. Won't lie
Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep} Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting. www.InsaneVeins.com
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03-18-2012 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
Doss
The pump itself can be good for your muscle in that it stretches the fascia. But with proper training techniques you can get insane pumps without any supps.
This, and with increased blood flow your body can transport waste from your muscles and deliver more oxygen and nutrients. Then over time your muscles will create a greater number of capillaries which also allows for more blood flow. Many bodybuilders feel that the pump is vital for maximal muscle growth.
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03-18-2012 10:29 PM
Purus Power Buildin'
Originally Posted by MusclestoGo
This, and with increased blood flow your body can transport waste from your muscles and deliver more oxygen and nutrients. Then over time your muscles will create a greater number of capillaries which also allows for more blood flow. Many bodybuilders feel that the pump is vital for maximal muscle growth.
Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep} Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting. www.InsaneVeins.com
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03-18-2012 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
Torobestia
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Meehh I still haven figured out how to post pics and gif from iPad
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03-18-2012 10:42 PM
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i always get a pump on my workouts.. if it wasn't there i'd assume i didn't hit it hard...but i can get pumped doing sets of 25.. so i don't really see why that would equal growth.. i'm no scientist though, doesn't seem to relate from experience.. though i always have a pump
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03-18-2012 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
MusclestoGo
This, and with increased blood flow your body can transport waste from your muscles and deliver more oxygen and nutrients. Then over time your muscles will create a greater number of capillaries which also allows for more blood flow. Many bodybuilders feel that the pump is vital for maximal muscle growth.
But why pay for something that your body is capable of doing by itself? I think how strong your pump is depends on the level of your intensity. Most of the people I see at the gym I go to goes to the small booth that we have that sells protein and pre workouts and buys the newest product that promises incredible pumps but rests and talks for 3 min or more in-between sets
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03-18-2012 10:59 PM
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Didnt take a pre today.. Quads felt insanely pumped.
Yeah they can have great benefit in moving nutrient to muscle and opening up the bloodstream but its not NEEDED. I find great benefit from pumps in mind muscle connection and consciousness of what Im doing. Im kind of whatever about the feeling and Im only concerned with the cosmetics when Im going on stage or something.
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03-19-2012 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
Rodja
Taking blood away from organs to the muscles for an extended length of time is a great idea.
This.
Although, I won't lie, I do like feeling like the hulk during/after my arm/chest workouts.
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03-19-2012 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by
Strygwyr
But why pay for something that your body is capable of doing by itself? I think how strong your pump is depends on the level of your intensity. Most of the people I see at the gym I go to goes to the small booth that we have that sells protein and pre workouts and buys the newest product that promises incredible pumps but rests and talks for 3 min or more in-between sets
I'm not encouraging consumerism. Like everyone's saying your body will do it naturally, if not, you can use a couple techniques.
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