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    Even if for the psychological effect, I enjoy seeing all of my veins just popping all over the place after a good workout, gives me more motivation to go back to the gym the next day and work as hard if not harder than I did the day before. So, well, I guess it works for me, and I enjoy that look.
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    The fuller my muscles are/feel, the more leverage it seems to live me with my lifts, therefore the pump is very beneficial to me. The more I'm pumped, the better my workouts.

    I like to feel da pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SXIPro
    Ok then, we have established that the 'pumps' derived from some pre-wo supps really offer no true benefit.

    How about the other claims? If I don't need 'extra' energy or 'extra' focus, is there any real reason for me to take a pre-wo supp at all?

    Does something exist to take/drink pre-workout that physiologically (not psychologically) will add to gains in lean mass?
    Nitrix gave me a great deal of energy... And it's simply a pump product. You take it everyday and multiple times a day, a lot of people think it's garbage, but I've felt damn good on it; I actually think it's worth me grabbing another bottle too...
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    i think i will also give nitrix another run...
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    I dont feel tat I start to lift heavier or more intensly, rather than effective with each motion being on point. Yeah i does motivate me to think "F yeah!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Type O Hero View Post
    The fuller my muscles are/feel, the more leverage it seems to live me with my lifts, therefore the pump is very beneficial to me. The more I'm pumped, the better my workouts.

    I like to feel da pump.
    A pump actually limits the amount of stretch reflex and force production. For maximal strength, a pump is not a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclestoGo View Post
    True it is used for marketing, and it's difficult to find unbiased sources online. Arterioles are responsible for bloodflow, however they branch into Arteriole Capillaries… unless i'm misinformed. I also agree with your last sentence, and as far as the Gastrointestinal system that throws in a whole new subject. So i humbly ask, how much effect could the delay of digestion really have? The majority of your pump is gone not too long after your workout, your body has already stored glycogen in you muscles from your pre-workout, all it needs is protein post workout and carbs later on. Isn't that just as debatable as the pump itself?
    Capillaries receive the blood upon leaving tissues/fascia. They then in turn lead into veins and return the blood back to the heart for re-oxygenation. One other aspect to think about is that during intense workouts our GI tract is NATURALLY shut down and diminished ie "the fight or flight mechanism" or also called the sympathetic nervous system response.

    On the basis of cost, you could simply buy straight L-arginine and add it to your preworkout routine. With that being said, L-arginine is a non-essential amino acid and thus your body will produce most of what you need without supplementation. Long term L-arginine supplementation is not necessary nor ideal.
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    Besides feeling and looking awesome, and being motivating, doesn't "the pump" bring nutrients to ur muscles? Id say that would be another plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown58 View Post
    Besides feeling and looking awesome, and being motivating, doesn't "the pump" bring nutrients to ur muscles? Id say that would be another plus.
    No, it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    No, it doesn't.
    Care to explain why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xigotmailx View Post
    I like using Arnold's example of the pump is like cumming. In terms of cumming I just jizzed all over the place with this epic pump I have in my bi's right now...lol just went to the gym for the first time in months, weird part is it's chest/shoulders day XD
    I hope you are joking. Arnold said what he said to make the movie more entertaining and promote it. He explained all that in the anniversary edition. The orgarm comparison, the death of his father, the smoking dope..etc. Pumping Iron was a movie, not a documentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    Care to explain why?
    Let me back up a bit, there will be increased nutrient delivery, but in a slightly different sense. The hyperemia is mainly to keep up with the metabolic demand and to help remove metabolic waste (e.g. lactic acid). The nutrients that delivered are mainly ATP and electrolytes, especially calcium.

    As far as amino acid delivery and uptake is concerned, there isn't any evidence to suggest that hyperemia will lead to hypertrophy. There are many things that will lead to hyperemia, but the always forgotten element to hypertrophy is TUT (particularly the eccentric contraction). If you're seeking hypertrophy, then TUT is the most important aspect. Granted, hyperemia will almost certainly happen as a result of this, but that does not mean that any hypertrophy should be attributed solely to this. I've gotten some of the nastiest pumps of my life in my thighs and glutes from Prowler pushes, but the eccentric contraction is not there.
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    I love te pump except in the biceps..my problem is they pump too fast.. I'm talkin like fter two sets theyre full red and veins poppin everywhere it's crazii so it gets really hard to finish my sets.. So I only do two or three excercises on arms days and another two or three on chest days
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123
    I love te pump except in the biceps..my problem is they pump too fast.. I'm talkin like fter two sets theyre full red and veins poppin everywhere it's crazii so it gets really hard to finish my sets.. So I only do two or three excercises on arms days and another two or three on chest days
    That happens naturally or are u taking anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    That happens naturally or are u taking anything?
    All natural.. I just finished PCTing but they always been like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    A pump actually limits the amount of stretch reflex and force production. For maximal strength, a pump is not a good thing.
    I'm in it for looks mostly, athletic ability is secondary. Whatever I'm doing is working for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Type O Hero

    I'm in it for looks mostly, athletic ability is secondary. Whatever I'm doing is working for me!
    I just grabbed some eNoxide to help with the pumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    All natural.. I just finished PCTing but they always been like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by SXIPro View Post
    Ok, here goes: A large percentage of the supps out there contain some marketing jargon about epic maximum volume skin splitting pumps, or something like that.

    Now, the added 'pump' you get from any of these supps....is it really doing you any good besides making you look fuller for a couple hours? In other words, is it just a temporary vanity thing or do the pumps do something physiologically to add to permanent lean mass gains?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    It won't do anything for you. In fact increasing NO levels= decrease in testosterone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I just grabbed some eNoxide to help with the pumps.
    are you on a quest for the perfect pump? been wanting to try this
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech

    are you on a quest for the perfect pump? been wanting to try this
    Damn str8 lol
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    im going to run an all pump stack....whiteblood2, agmatine, arginine e2 matrix, nitrix, plasma jet, and 4 scoops hemavol
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech
    im going to run an all pump stack....whiteblood2, agmatine, arginine e2 matrix, nitrix, plasma jet, and 4 scoops hemavol
    Nitrix I was hoping for more. It didn't really do much for me. Gave me a decent amount of energy, but not any increase in pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech
    im going to run an all pump stack....whiteblood2, agmatine, arginine e2 matrix, nitrix, plasma jet, and 4 scoops hemavol
    What pump have u tried that was a success?

    I'm just so used to looking like I was on AndroMass again and that's not the case. I was holding about 5-7 pounds of water haha...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I just grabbed some eNoxide to help with the pumps.
    I totally recommend you take enoxide with 3 scoops of Code Red you will get insane pumps, but it probably will enhance the pump on any preworkout, I just about finished my Code Red , so Im gonna pick up some Iforce Hemoval, I heard this one gives some wicked pumps too. Pretty much Glyco Carn , Nitrates, and anything with Agmatine will give you insane pumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPSwole

    I totally recommend you take enoxide with 3 scoops of Code Red you will get insane pumps, but it probably will enhance the pump on any preworkout, I just about finished my Code Red , so Im gonna pick up some Iforce Hemoval, I heard this one gives some wicked pumps too. Pretty much Glyco Carn , Nitrates, and anything with Agmatine will give you insane pumps.
    Yeah I may have to grab some code red...
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    & I've seriously debated grabbing some yok3d (just a shame with the 2-3 hour waiting window) to take with eNoxide!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    & I've seriously debated grabbing some yok3d (just a shame with the 2-3 hour waiting window) to take with eNoxide!!
    Just take it with your pre-workout meal. Actually gives a fairly decent pump. When it comes to nitrates, I'm more of a fan of APS creatine nitrate. I've found five pills pre to be the sweet spot between enhanced pumps and debilitating pumps; the kind where you know your muscle still has something in it, but it's just so pumped that you can't get a decent contraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natandrb

    Just take it with your pre-workout meal. Actually gives a fairly decent pump. When it comes to nitrates, I'm more of a fan of APS creatine nitrate. I've found five pills pre to be the sweet spot between enhanced pumps and debilitating pumps; the kind where you know your muscle still has something in it, but it's just so pumped that you can't get a decent contraction.
    I'll have to look into that.
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    well agmatine has been extremely beneficial for me at even 250mg with my whiteflood, i always get a good pump though with any pre i use, i just grabbed some hemavol/mv2 and will try that out but i still need to try that whiteblood2..i used dymatize expand with dymatize expand am/pm with good results
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    of course my pumps and vasco was insane on m1db
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    In fact increasing NO levels= decrease in testosterone.
    How come? Can you explain, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKNoko View Post
    How come? Can you explain, please?
    There's a few articles on this with the rat model, but nothing I've seen in humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech
    well agmatine has been extremely beneficial for me at even 250mg with my whiteflood, i always get a good pump though with any pre i use, i just grabbed some hemavol/mv2 and will try that out but i still need to try that whiteblood2..i used dymatize expand with dymatize expand am/pm with good results
    Yeah I just keep wanting to give yok3d a go again lol...
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    As far as pumps, Ive had good results with NO SHOTGUN. As with many preworkouts, the emptier the stomach, the greater the pump.
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    N.O Shotgun used to be my staple preworkout, it always delivered pretty good pumps plus it has the added 20g of protein, no other preworkout that I know has even added protein yet. The reason I switched was cause I wanted to try something new. I ve been reading about Neurocore lately also, supposedly its been giving people decent pumps since it has L-Citrulline in it which is supposed to last longer than Arginine. Plus Neurocore is dirt cheap I found some for $18 for 45 servings.
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