When should I cycle creatine?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I take at least 5g creatine a day.
    Sometimes I have overkill though because my protein powder may gave some, my pwo may have some....
    Somedays I might 8-10g in :/
    I just try and drink plenty of water
    Thats the key... and the only reason why 5g is usually enough is its tough for your body to absorb any more and it gets turned to waste that your kidneys have to flush out... drinking more water helps with this.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    a town about 20min away from where I live, lol...

    Really its a very versatile element used in MANY different things, including borax, but not 100% sure on its roles in the body... all that I DO remember reading though was beneficial.


    NOW makes a D3 that I take that has no calcium in it as well... look it up if your trying to avoid excess calcium intake....
    I take prilosac for acid reflux, so thats why I was looking at getting a D supp with some calcium.
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  3. I honestly never cycle off...5-10g per day every day

  4. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD View Post
    hmm my multi has magnesium stearate. How bad is it?
    It's not going to kill you, but if you're taking a multi or numerous tablets with that in it, it may weaken your immune system and cause other problems. Magnesium stearate helps speed-hungry encapsulation machines work faster and there's no reason for it to be in your multi.

    If I were you, I'd be more concerned about taking D2 than magnesium stearate, but that's just me.

  5. Hey the doc has me on 600 mg of Ibuprofen again, because of inflammation in my leg above my knee. Is it okay to take creatine at the same time I'm on high levels of ibuprofen? Also the D3 supp I was looking at had Magnesium sulfate in it, it was a D-3 calcium plus mineral supp.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD View Post
    Hey the doc has me on 600 mg of Ibuprofen again, because of inflammation in my leg above my knee. Is it okay to take creatine at the same time I'm on high levels of ibuprofen? Also the D3 supp I was looking at had Magnesium sulfate in it, it was a D-3 calcium plus mineral supp.
    ^any input? I'm a little concerned about this.

  7. since when is vit d2 an RX? I think you mean he told you what vit D product to buy? D2 and D3 is widely available OTC... if we are talking vitamin D that is in the ACTIVE form after being hydroxylated twice (calcitriol)..then ok that is an RX and needs to be monitored closely with blood work.

  8. Never go by what your doctor tells you. Always take the advice of someone on an internet message board over your doctor. Besides the stranger on the internet message board has the best intentions for you and your health.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD View Post
    ^any input? I'm a little concerned about this.
    I dont see why there would be any issues to worry about just stay hydrated

  10. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Never go by what your doctor tells you. Always take the advice of someone on an internet message board over your doctor. Besides the stranger on the internet message board has the best intentions for you and your health.
    Everyone on this site seems to hate MD's

  11. The D2 vitamins, it says VIT D2 on the bottle, they are gel caps. She told me to take one once per week.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD
    I've been on it for weeks and have not cycled off at all. How should I cycle it?
    Cycle creatine in between steroid cycles. But if your drug free then 2 months then take a break. You going to drop all the water weight when you come off. Just make sure you eating to gain while taking it. You might try a test booster with it

  13. No real need to cycle creatine, just drink plenty of water. And if you're like me and want to be cautious every few weeks take a week off the creatine and any other supplements you're taking and take milk thistle for the liver.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by joeblow1

    Cycle creatine in between steroid cycles. But if your drug free then 2 months then take a break. You going to drop all the water weight when you come off. Just make sure you eating to gain while taking it. You might try a test booster with it
    Bad advice. You should run creatine right through a cycle and pct. No reason to take it out.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough

    Bad advice. You should run creatine right through a cycle and pct. No reason to take it out.
    You dont need creatine on juice. Unless you have fake juice your gains should be substantial on juice. The only time I even recommend creatine is between cycles. If your cycles are so ineffective that creatine makes or breaks it find a new supplier.

  16. Creatine has more benefits than just strength and mass. If your using it for only that than your really missing the point and are mis-guided. It is the studied supplement there is and if you have questions you should really do some reading on it. There is this thing called "Google" it is wonderful. I typed in the word "Creatine" and got About 21,000,000 results (0.19 seconds).

  17. That made no sense at all. You can have a good cycle without creatine, but you'll have a better one with it. There's absolutely no reason it has to be either or. Creatine is totally safe.

    *edit* -re: joblow1

  18. Quote Originally Posted by JohnRock
    That made no sense at all. You can have a good cycle without creatine, but you'll have a better one with it. There's absolutely no reason it has to be either or. Creatine is totally safe.

    *edit* -re: joblow1
    Use all the creatine you want Ill stick with test and dbol etc. Its your preference too use it or not.

  19. I take about 10g creatine a day.
    About 3G from my pwo, another 5 after and sometimes my protein powder has a gram or 3 in it.
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  20. Lol.... I run into this response all the time... There's NO reason NOT to take it, its not going to harm you at all, you can only benefit from it. Its cheap as dirt, cheaper actually, and it performs in a way in which steroids do not, in fact it has incredible synergy with many steroids, supercharging them if you will.

    Go ahead and "save" it, all your doing is shortchanging yourself... Its something that takes a long time to load and requires saturation, you don't grow tolerant to it either, so its not stronger by refraining to use it then bringing it out in a clinch for pct... In fact you fail to get its full effects for even a couple of weeks in pct doing that.

    Read up on it, what it does, how it does it and how steroids not only don't replace it, but work better with it.... Then come back and apologize for sounding like an idiot.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1
    I take about 10g creatine a day.
    About 3G from my pwo, another 5 after and sometimes my protein powder has a gram or 3 in it.
    Bro, I swear you are getting alzheimer's... You posted this already... Lol... You do this all the time.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough

    Bro, I swear you are getting alzheimer's... You posted this already... Lol... You do this all the time.
    It's that AndroMass man!!!



    I'm always on something when it happens....

    I'm subbed to over 50 threads, box full PMs and being a rep/board sponsor, & being on =hard 2 keep up! haha
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  23. So creatine will still be effective even if I take a few days off, say now more than like a week when I take a week of from lifting every 3 or 4 months. Also if I take it just 4 days a week will it have the same effectiveness? I've noticed if I take it and I don't lift I piss alot like every 20 minutes for like 3 hours, but if I'm active on it, I only piss every 20 minutes for about an hour to 1.5 hours. Even if I drink alot of water.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD
    So creatine will still be effective even if I take a few days off, say now more than like a week when I take a week of from lifting every 3 or 4 months. Also if I take it just 4 days a week will it have the same effectiveness? I've noticed if I take it and I don't lift I piss alot like every 20 minutes for like 3 hours, but if I'm active on it, I only piss every 20 minutes for about an hour to 1.5 hours. Even if I drink alot of water.
    There's a good chance that if you're an omnivore and take any modern supplements, four days a week should be fine for maintenance. You reach a saturation point (see, genetic limit) that is maintained by lower doses than your typical loading phase. If you're eating meat, you'll receive some from there, and most every supplement contains creatine nowadays. I would wager that you would be fine taking it every other day.

    What cracks me up is how studied creatine is, yet how misunderstood it is. Creatine is present in your muscles regardless of what you're doing (it wouldn't be a fun few seconds between ATP depletion and glycolysis ramp up without it) mostly as phosphocreatine, but also in free form. PCr is broken to provide quick re-energizing of ADP to ATP so a maximally saturated creatine pool is nothing less than beneficial. And like i said, that level has a hard genetic limit, which you may or may not reach without supps (non-responders). Cycling it won't supercompensate; only increased muscle mass will lead to greater levels in your creatine pool.

    To address other issues raised, it's also safe as it is naturally occurring in the body. I don't advocate spamming 40 grams a day with minimal fluid intake, but sensible loading and adequate hydration are perfectly safe for ALMOST everyone. Scientists are also looking at its effectiveness at treating a variety of brain ailments, so there's that too.

    Finally, creatine is very specific in how it aids performance. Distance runners won't see performance gains, but you will likely see slightly more left in the tank during weight training and short, explosive movements such as sprinting (correct me on the last bit if needed, haven't read studies in a while).

    Hope that helps.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mattsams89 View Post
    There's a good chance that if you're an omnivore and take any modern supplements, four days a week should be fine for maintenance. You reach a saturation point (see, genetic limit) that is maintained by lower doses than your typical loading phase. If you're eating meat, you'll receive some from there, and most every supplement contains creatine nowadays. I would wager that you would be fine taking it every other day.

    What cracks me up is how studied creatine is, yet how misunderstood it is. Creatine is present in your muscles regardless of what you're doing (it wouldn't be a fun few seconds between ATP depletion and glycolysis ramp up without it) mostly as phosphocreatine, but also in free form. PCr is broken to provide quick re-energizing of ADP to ATP so a maximally saturated creatine pool is nothing less than beneficial. And like i said, that level has a hard genetic limit, which you may or may not reach without supps (non-responders). Cycling it won't supercompensate; only increased muscle mass will lead to greater levels in your creatine pool.

    To address other issues raised, it's also safe as it is naturally occurring in the body. I don't advocate spamming 40 grams a day with minimal fluid intake, but sensible loading and adequate hydration are perfectly safe for ALMOST everyone. Scientists are also looking at its effectiveness at treating a variety of brain ailments, so there's that too.

    Finally, creatine is very specific in how it aids performance. Distance runners won't see performance gains, but you will likely see slightly more left in the tank during weight training and short, explosive movements such as sprinting (correct me on the last bit if needed, haven't read studies in a while).

    Hope that helps.
    I read somewhere that creatine malate, might be better than monohydrate, because it brings more of the creatine to your muscles and you waste less of it, which I would assume if that is true, that I would piss less when taking malate, but idk how true this is.
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