old school training vs new
- 02-02-2011, 05:15 PM
old school training vs new
So my general take on the whole versus is this
oldschool- lots of volume, heavy, lots of juice little cardio
New school-heavy, low volume, lots of juice
In the end I like the body type of the old more, Im not a fan of powerlifters in bodybuilding comps.
Besides many of them built muscle before hormones, John Grimmek for one
Now Im more interested in the 70's to 80's style
I have been dc training and getting thicker for sure, stronger but my joints are trashed! I need a lighter higher volume phillosophy.
Any interesting ideas on a training method? GVT i did it once but only on keto so Im sure that was a bad idea, i lost to much strength.
- 02-02-2011, 05:17 PM
02-02-2011, 07:07 PM
What are your training goals? That will make a difference in your training programming. I'm a fan of working up to some heavy sets of 1-5 reps on your main movement to build strength and then doing some lighter, higher volume work to build the muscles used in the main movement. In my opinion this allows you to get the best of both worlds. As long as you use a reasonable plan and progression scheme for the heavy main movements, you shouldn't have any major joint or injury problems.
02-02-2011, 11:25 PM
my goal is more muscularity, I really dont want to weigh more than I currently do, I would like to compete in some small comps in the under 200pound division. I want more vascularity, muscularity, symmetry. Im big frank zane fan, going for the little waist, my lt width needs work. I honestly would like some finess style bodybuilding, I could care less about strength I just want better body composition.
02-03-2011, 12:09 AM
create your own routine. here is what i do. i have the same goals as you. i want a bodybuilding look with strength, not just fat and bulky like a power lifter. the most important philosophy is CHANGING YOUR REPS weekly or every other week.
Mon - Chest 12 sets 4 exercises
Tues - back with deads
wed - off
thurs - legs with shoulders
fri - arms
weekend - off
i cycle through workout routines, and i create all of mine. one week ill do high reps 12 to 15, sometimes more....the next i will go reps 4 to 6 followed by a week of 8 to 12. always confusing my body. and i never to the same workout week after week (BB bench week one, then DB bench week 2). FOR ME, confusing my body is my natural version of a steroid. it does wonders for me. dont focus on weight, focus on perfect form with as much weight as u can do (with perfect form)
02-03-2011, 09:53 AM
Legs (SQ + lower body isolation, abs optional)
chest/triceps (BP + isolation work for the pecs and triceps; some biceps optional)
back + biceps (DL + pull-ups/pulldowns and rows, biceps; abs optional)
shoulders (overhead press + various lateral raises including rear delt work; some light triceps optional depending on what you did on chest day)
02-03-2011, 12:15 PM
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
02-03-2011, 12:22 PM
02-03-2011, 12:40 PM
02-08-2011, 11:09 PM
02-09-2011, 12:30 AM
Heres my thought.
Present: There is a lot more research on training. New machines. New types of ways of working out.
We have learned that no one is the same. Yes, there is the basics of working out. But everyone is different and it only takes time to figure out how our body responds to different work outs.
SO i think if your body responds well to old school training. then have at it, But if not try something different. IT doesnt matter what your taking, just eat, your body stays the same training wise....
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