Get Me Army Ready

[culversguy]

srry for no response my computer decided to die out and i finally got it back. thank you for all the posts that i got i really appreciate it. the reason why i was going for the army PT standard is since ill be fresh meat i want to stand out from the start and i figured score 300 on the PT would be a great way to do it and i do realize that SP will be a hole different story. so do you guys think i should start training for SP since it is so much harder then the PT i Should be able to get the 300 just by training for SP right? im also confused about weights should i drop my lifting totally or switch to more body weight or what?

I want to thank Steel and killer for all their posts

As for steel you said that you would help me set some of this up im willing to do anything that it takes and put my full effort into it if you help it seems like you know what you guys are talking about so i am yours to mold into a soldier

any help is welcomed and since the comp is running ill be able to respond atleast once each day

[Killerkanadia]

Just to throw this out there, i never do pushups, yet i can still max it out easy. Any powerlifting or bodybuilding routine you will get enough muscular endurance to do 70-some pushups. Obviously doing situps enough, you will be able to pretty easily be able to do the Army standard of around 80 as well.

The only thing that won't come naturally if you're working out, is the running. I don't like doing cardio as i am a bonafide ecto, so normally i run about a 14 minute 2 mile. A little bit of work and i could get 13 minute 2 mile pretty easily.

I guess it depends on your goals. If you just want to stand out on the PT test, train for the PT test with body weight exercises.

[Steelwolf]

Sorry bro hectic weekend and this slipped my mind

Balance: you will be thrown into odd positions, you need control of your ground

this is a 10 minute thing max. A lot of people say blah blah but since doing hung gar training I dont move.

Standing on one foot for time. Bring that knee into the chest and hold hands at your side like you see martial artists do for a horse stance.

Get into a deep lunge and stay there tightening up the legs for time.

I dont normally advise bosu balls but I will for this. No movements just trying to keep your ground.

Planks fall into this also if you can get a foot ab wheel those make it even better and any exercise with majorly help with balance. If you want to really good get at balance take 6 months of tai ch. Barely any school will teach chi activation anymore but you'll get sick grounding. To the point of how well my grounding is: I dropped into a bow stance (kind of lunge) and my professor at school was trying to push me around it and I didn't budge one inch.

[culversguy]

just hoping on for a little before i head off to class i plan to write up a new routine with all your guys input and have it up to night and see if im starting to get on the right track

[Steelwolf]

Middle range strength is compound movements for a higher rep range 20 or so- you want to be working for around a minute to 3 minutes straight within the planes of motion.

Vertical press/hip dominant pull -clean and press
Vertical pull- chinups with a band
Horizontal pull- DB rows or bodyweight rows
Horizontal push- pushup /w weight (life line cables makes a great added resistance band for these)
Quad push- olympic squats, front squats, car push (which is both but eh)

Endurance long term is 2 kinds
tabata training and long endurance 15 minutes minimum.

Tabata training is 20 on 10 off -15ish minutes. I advice bodweight stuff all squats, all pushups, all situps or one round of each. If you finish it all without needing to skip a round your not going hard enough. Then the running time that is where you do your endurance running and then you add weight as you go. Dont just into weight.

Lets see your program and will go from there.

[drinkyboy]

I think you should get to know the basics of land nav with a map and compus. Go to Airborne school and gett your wings akso...you WILL need your wings for SFAS. I would say that being mentally fit is the biggest challenge for all...thats what they look for in people is someone that can operate at an elite level while faced with sleep deprevation, food deprivation and an ungodly amount of pressure. Alot of people dont fail...they quit themselves. There are also a number of classes you will be required to take so i suggest finding those out and brush up to get a leg up!

[Killerkanadia]

I think you should get to know the basics of land nav with a map and compus. Go to Airborne school and gett your wings akso...you WILL need your wings for SFAS. I would say that being mentally fit is the biggest challenge for all...thats what they look for in people is someone that can operate at an elite level while faced with sleep deprevation, food deprivation and an ungodly amount of pressure. Alot of people dont fail...they quit themselves. There are also a number of classes you will be required to take so i suggest finding those out and brush up to get a leg up!

There's no way i have figured that can prepare anyone for the mental training the military does. You either are the kind of person that will make it, or you're not.

[Steelwolf]

There's no way i have figured that can prepare anyone for the mental training the military does. You either are the kind of person that will make it, or you're not.

Spend time under a traditional martial arts instructor lol.. (though you will find less than a 100 in America)

[drinkyboy]

There's no way i have figured that can prepare anyone for the mental training the military does. You either are the kind of person that will make it, or you're not.

Exactly!! and only the person going into the training can determine that. You will get pushed beyond what you thought was humanly possible and then some. You have to be honest with yourself as to if you really have what it takes or else your wasteing your time. I had the pleasure of working with a few SF guys while in Iraq and they say thats the biggest challenge of them all...many candidates cant hack it mentaly.

[culversguy]

im doing four years of rotc in college which is going to start next school year so im going to learn all the fundamentals(nav, map, compus etc) and im going to do the ranger club rifle club for the extra learning. i know that the mental stress is going to be the hardest part and i believe i will be able to do this because im not going into SF because its cool im doing this for me as a personal test to be the best and to serve my country. but any ways should i keep my 3day lifting 3day cardio 1day off plan or should i have more cardio less lifting or visa versa? but its back to class thanks for the advicce

[Chub]

hows the training coming along?

[votum]

thats what i do now and in order to get 300 on the PT test i have to be able to do
100 pushups in 2min - me 75
100 situps in 2min - me over 100
2 mile run 12 min - me 17:30(took 4 months off cardio for bulk was at a 6min mile)
3 pull ups - me 20(want to be able to do 30

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This is not correct.

Male Ages 17-21

for a 300 on the APFT:

71 Pushups
78 Situps
13:00 2 mile run.

There are no pullups on the APFT.

If you want to be SF you need to be able to run a lot, and ruck march a lot. Don't even worry about pushups or situps, those will go up if you are rucking and running.

IIRC there is a timed 6 mile run in Selection, then you run a PT test like an hour later.

FYI you will never have to do 100 of anything to get a 300 on the APFT.

And it might be damn near impossible to do 100 situps in 2 minutes anyway...

[Chub]

thats what i do now and in order to get 300 on the PT test i have to be able to do
100 pushups in 2min - me 75
100 situps in 2min - me over 100
2 mile run 12 min - me 17:30(took 4 months off cardio for bulk was at a 6min mile)
3 pull ups - me 20(want to be able to do 30

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This is not correct.

Male Ages 17-21

for a 300 on the APFT:

71 Pushups
78 Situps
13:00 2 mile run.

There are no pullups on the APFT.

If you want to be SF you need to be able to run a lot, and ruck march a lot. Don't even worry about pushups or situps, those will go up if you are rucking and running.

IIRC there is a timed 6 mile run in Selection, then you run a PT test like an hour later.

FYI you will never have to do 100 of anything to get a 300 on the APFT.

And it might be damn near impossible to do 100 situps in 2 minutes anyway...

aye a 100 for press ups and sit ups seemed like a lot lol

[Bile12345]

If you are trying to just max the APFT just do each day 5 sets 50 pushups, 50 crunches in the morning and the same at night mon-fri. As for running the 2 mile; jog mon, wed, fri 4 miles each and ride a bike tue, thu at least 10 miles each. This will make you easily max the APFT in 2 months. I know this because I got a bunch of fatasses to do this and they maxed the APFT in 2 months.
As for Selection; Ruck Tue, Thu, Sat 6-12 miles vary it with 45-75lb ruck. At the end of the ruck course do 5 sets of 10 ruck squats. This is what my buddy did to pass selection. You also got to be good at land nav and have some heart. Because you will be getting destroyed physically and mentally.
Other than that Army PT is easy to pass. The only bad thing about it is they still do the 19th century tape test that is garbage and Ive seen some big guys fail that even though they are just muscular.