I'm still having alittle shoulder pain, is it wise to do the overhead press?
- 10-31-2010, 10:00 PM
Just do latteral raises with 80% rep range until it heals... Overheads can cause a slew of problems for some but not all people.. The people that do have problems with it also generally have problems with bench too... My advice and what i have people i work with who also have this problem do is decline bench press as well as only side lateral raises... I have some people with very large shoulders who are also very strong.. When you can do laterals with 70 lb db's cant say your not strong with bid delts...
- 10-31-2010, 10:11 PM
10-31-2010, 10:15 PM
10-31-2010, 10:31 PM
10-31-2010, 11:22 PM
11-01-2010, 12:53 AM
11-01-2010, 12:55 AM
11-01-2010, 01:12 AM
11-01-2010, 06:20 PM
Wresting is about functionality. Never will you be pushing someone over your head from a seated position. In fact, you will be utilizing mostly legs in order to get them over head. Having a poor shoulder ROM, however, will not allow you to hold them over your head for long.
You need to strengthen your mid traps, rhomboids, and scapula depressors in order to achieve this.
11-01-2010, 07:00 PM
11-01-2010, 07:17 PM
I would not do any front raises. Based on what you're telling me, there is a muscular imbalance between your anterior > posterior deltoids. Do scapation exercises.
I see no problem with front squatting. You can use a modified grip (arms crossed) if you feel too much pressure on your shoulder.
11-01-2010, 07:45 PM
11-02-2010, 01:59 PM
11-02-2010, 07:56 PM
11-03-2010, 12:28 PM
Muscular imblances are what usually cause inflexibility. The fact that you cannot lie on your back and bring your arm to the floor without bending lends me to hypothesize that you're shoulders are brought forward. This is due to overactive anterior delts, pec major and pec minor. On the flip side, the muscles opposing these are underactive (weak), being the lower traps, mid traps, rhomboids and rear delts. Thus, you should minimize work done to the overactive muscles to just enough to maintain strength and increase work on the underactive muscles.
11-03-2010, 01:16 PM
I underwent shoulder decompression for impingement a month ago. Per the physical therapist and sports Orthopaedist, the overhead press is the worst movement for any type of shoulder issues. Stick to lateral raises and machine lateral raises.
11-03-2010, 06:18 PM
Inclined DB press
Inclined DB flyes
Db Lying Triceps Extension
close grip bench
11-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Make sure you are doing work for the LOWER trapezius and mid traps/rhomboids. This should be your focus, not upper traps.
Search for scapula depressions and scapation exercises for the lower traps.
For the middle, face pulls, wide grip rows with an overhand grip, high pulley rows with bilateral cables, and of course, rear delt type movements.
I think the flyes are over kill, and cause too much protraction. Make sure you keep your shoulder blades pulled back on the presses.
As for time off and before you start doing over heads again, you'll have to feel it out. No way to give a definitive answer.
11-03-2010, 07:21 PM
11-04-2010, 11:25 AM
Nope, you need to be doing scapation exercises.
When doing rows, you need a wide and overhand grip to work the middle trapezius and rhomboids. Close grip or single arm arm rows work more of the lats.
11-06-2010, 09:05 PM
11-07-2010, 08:18 AM
Your lats and teres will still be involved in the movement. Look into shoulder extensions with a rope. This is a good lat exercise as well as a good prehab-rehab movement for the shoulder joint.
11-07-2010, 08:32 AM
not it is not especially if your not useing proper range of motion for your shoulder joint ( which most people do not use).
11-07-2010, 11:08 AM
Hopefully I can get my other shoulder back to health without surgery, cause surgery just sucks. I'm not too optimistic at this point, tho.
11-08-2010, 01:47 PM
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