Is it time to switch routines or do shoulder just take forever?

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  1. Is it time to switch routines or do shoulder just take forever?


    I've been stuck at 100lbs on the military press for about 4 weeks, I went to the gym today and military pressed 90lbs, which at home would equal 100lb since the bar is heavier at the gym. I did 3 sets, first set for 6, second for 5 and third for 4. If I get 8 reps on all sets I'll up the weight. How long does it usually take to progress on the military press? I am doing them standing. I would hate to think my max military press is 100lbs.


  2. this is one of the excercises with the most difficult and longest progression... kkep adding reps then add weight. and do you heavy set first and try to bust out as many as possible on that one... even if its just 3, then next time 4 etc..
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by MrRobRage View Post
    this is one of the excercises with the most difficult and longest progression... kkep adding reps then add weight. and do you heavy set first and try to bust out as many as possible on that one... even if its just 3, then next time 4 etc..
    Thanks man. I've just always been stuck at 100lbs on the military press, well actually I'm doing an overhead press, but anyway back when I was doing a 5x5 program I was still stuck at 100lb overhead press but, than again I lost a lot of weight eating less so I had to start with just the bar again.

  4. yeah... its a pain.. sometimes its like a month or more for me to go up 2-5lbs...

  5. I suggest switching it up and using the seated military press machine for a month. You can crank out some serious poundage and that should help you out of the rut.
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  6. Yeah I've been having tendinitis pain in my right shoulder recently too. I guess that might be playing a factor also.

  7. Yeah, I'd give it a break and come back to it. Work with dumbells for a bit maybe. Or do push presses instead.

    I had the same problem before and more military pressing hurt me more than it helped after I had stalled.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by wontstop985 View Post
    Yeah, I'd give it a break and come back to it. Work with dumbells for a bit maybe. Or do push presses instead.

    I had the same problem before and more military pressing hurt me more than it helped after I had stalled.
    Okay, maybe I'll give dumbbells a shot. I don't really want to do push presses. Are the military press machines okay to use?

  9. Don't know. Seems like people like them... I've never used any machines, though.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by wontstop985 View Post
    Don't know. Seems like people like them... I've never used any machines, though.
    Oh okay. Well I'll jsut have to see. I was also thinking of doing front raises for a little while.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD View Post
    Okay, maybe I'll give dumbbells a shot. I don't really want to do push presses. Are the military press machines okay to use?
    I do lots of incline dumbbell press for my chest and my front delts get a solid pump, no need to worry about warm-up sets. Then go into seated dumbbell press, and finish off with the machine. The machine ensures you can keep poundage high when your shoulders and stabilizing muscles start to fatigue. Works for me.

    Try machines, they wont do any bad.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD View Post
    Oh okay. Well I'll jsut have to see. I was also thinking of doing front raises for a little while.
    I'm not sure those are going to give you enough stimulation. Weighted dips are good. You could also trying changing your grip on MP.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSid View Post
    Since they lock you into a very specific motion you dont use stabilizer muscles, and thus can handle heavier weight. I find they are perfect to use at the end of a set to keep the poundage up when you start fatiguing. Works great for me, and I suggest giving them a shot.

    Lets put it this way, they cant do any bad.
    Yeah I just don't want to do them for a month and come back and not be able to do the same weight I can do now on the military press. I just get afraid of handicapping myself using machines once I go back to free weight lifts.

  14. Also, pretty much every upper body exercise hits your shoulders to some degree so be careful not to overtrain them. Some can handle a lot of volume dedicated to shoulders, others can't.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by DerickVonD View Post
    Yeah I just don't want to do them for a month and come back and not be able to do the same weight I can do now on the military press. I just get afraid of handicapping myself using machines once I go back to free weight lifts.
    I could see that handicap if your doing standing military press.... Arnold Press maybe... Im at a loss now. Just stay away from the standing military press, try arnold press, db press. Seated, Standing, machines.... Continue doing the same number of sets, but every set or two, change the exercise..

  16. Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiSid View Post
    I could see that handicap if your doing standing military press.... Arnold Press maybe... Im at a loss now. Just stay away from the standing military press, try arnold press, db press. Seated, Standing, machines.... Continue doing the same number of sets, but every set or two, change the exercise..
    Well I was doing the military press to be practical. What I mean by that is when you lift something overhead in life, you're going to be standing.

  17. No push press? Aw man, that's the one movement that has made the most difference in my shoulder strength. That and seated rack press.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    No push press? Aw man, that's the one movement that has made the most difference in my shoulder strength. That and seated rack press.
    Just doesn't seem like I'd like the moment. I don't like exercises that have a jerk motion to them. I think I'll give myself 1 more week or so, just because now that I'm at the gym I'm working with different, slightly heavier equipment. If my reps don't go up, I'll switch the following week. I'm thinking about seated dumbbell press. I would eventually like to get back to an overhead press and surpass where I'm at.

  19. Well, good luck. A narrow, false grip was another thing that helped my presses, you may want to consider that too.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Well, good luck. A narrow, false grip was another thing that helped my presses, you may want to consider that too.
    What do you mean "false" grip?

  21. I think its when thumbs are out to the side, not around the bar

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  22. Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    I think its when thumbs are out to the side, not around the bar
    So like a squat grip?

  23. Yeah
    I beleive so. You got me thinking on how I hold my bar when I squat. Ok just did it in the mirror. Yeah

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  24. Yes, a false grip is when the thumb does not wrap around the bar.
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  25. I think all the advice here is basically the same, which is you just gotta change it up. Muscle confusion, whatever you want to call it. At the very least it gets working out exciting again, seeing new numbers grow is always a good feeling. Personally military press is one of my best lifts. I too stop from time to time try new things. I like the machine my gym has with independent arms so I can press it alternating left right. Did it for 3 months and when I maxed it out 450lbs 5 plates each side it was incredible. I also like upside down (overhead) pushups against a wall. Its a great workout and it definitely hits the negative resistance you might need.
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