Building a wide back
- 03-08-2010, 10:14 PM
Building a wide back
I've had success adding thickness to my back, but want to get a good spread in the lats. My chest currently measures 45", and I'd like to eventually get it up around 50".
My current back routine looks like this:
Pull-Ups 2-3 sets
Deadlifts/ Rack Pulls 3 sets
T-Bar Rows 3-4 sets
Cable Rows 3 sets
Any advice on movements/ technique?
- 03-08-2010, 10:20 PM
Good workout. Width is depended upon the size of the lats and every exercise you have listed depends on lat stimulus. The rowing variations build thickness of the upper back by developing the inner back muscles and pulling the shoulders back. Youtube: "Mark Rippetoe instruction" and you're good to go.Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS
03-08-2010, 10:31 PM
03-09-2010, 08:00 PM
I have a very wide back and most of my back routine consists of variations of pull-ups, dumbell rows or barbell rows and deadlifts but long before I even put deadlifts into my routine I had a wide back so I have to say genetics has a lot to do with how your muscles appear when you build them. I can work my chest to death and genetically it will never be what I want it to be, The same goes for my biceps. They plateau in size while my tri's seem to keep growing. Your routine sounds solid.
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03-09-2010, 08:01 PM
pulldowns if you must
Hell, even assisted pullups are great. It allows you to REAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY stretch the lat at the bottom of the movement, and pull with your elbows back to the top of the movement...Prevents cheating as well.
When this gets boring, do more pullups.
Thickness is a different conversation.
03-09-2010, 08:20 PM
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03-10-2010, 05:24 PM
After each set of pull-ups, grab hold of something stationary and pull for each side. You can feel it stretch all the way to the bottom.
With your pull-ups, grip as wide apart as practicable and make sure you're using the fullest range of motion. Think about pulling your shoulder girdle down and back when you're doing your pull-ups. Occasionally you could do behind-the-back pull-ups or close-grip pull-ups to switch it up.
If you're doing two rowing motions per workout, why not switch it up often? One week do T-bar rows and cable rows, the next week do bent-over barbell rows and dumbbell rows or something. This way you'd be constantly hitting your back from different angles. Bent-over rows done with an underhand grip are great as well; especially for developing extra biceps strength.
03-10-2010, 06:53 PM
negative chin-ups / pull-ups are great! You can finish off the routine with flat or decline pullovers for a nice deep stretch too.
03-11-2010, 07:39 PM
03-11-2010, 07:55 PM
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03-11-2010, 08:48 PM
Using the widest grip possible will force your body to utilize the traps more than any other graip, and really squeeze the blood into the muscle. I really, really like the assited pullup machine, as it takes your legs completely out of the equation.
If you have trouble completing your set, utilize a spotter to get some forced reps into the set. Stretching after is of utmost importance, again forcing blood into the muscle and really getting a strong stretch.
03-13-2010, 08:51 PM
bent over rows have worked wonders for me, and quickly. supinated grip like type o hero said work great too, especially for your last heavy set, when your lats are extra fatigued this grip lets the biceps help.
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