Calfs? How do they grow good lord
- 03-04-2010, 09:06 PM
- 03-04-2010, 10:11 PM
Consistent, heavy training. As far as rep ranges go, I'd say around 12-15 would be best for most of the time, but you may want to do a couple sets of very heavy weight where you're only doing 4-6 reps.
The stripping method works well with calves. I may do a few heavy sets, then on my last attempt I'll do a certain weight as many times as possible, drop the weight, keep going, and so on (a few times).
But the main thing is to go heavy. You may have to work to get your strength up because even twice your bodyweight is a pretty low weight to be using. Just keep at it, go up in weight when you can and they'll respond. How much they respond is dependent on training, diet, and unfortunately, genetics. But regardless of your genetics you should be able to get some response out of them.
- 03-04-2010, 10:38 PM
They're mainly a genetic muscle group like forearms. There isn't much you can do for them.Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS
03-04-2010, 11:29 PM
You figure you walk around on them all day with your body weight.... You weigh 178. Doing 200lb or even 300lb calf raises isnt straining your muscles too much. I have always done my calf raises immeadiately following my leg presses. Starting weight on leg press for me is roughly 700-800 lbs. Ill do as many calf raises as i can following my sets. Has worked pretty well for me so far.
03-05-2010, 08:16 AM
03-05-2010, 12:59 PM
It's all about genetic potential and most people's calves aren't up to their own genetic potential. Now what your genetic potential is, that's different for everyone, so though you may not ever have huge boulder-like calves, you can get them bigger. It's all about proportions! Regardless of your build, if you can achieve some level of muscularity, leanness and proportion, you will stand out from the average person.
Like I said, consistent, heavy training. You have to find that right groove where you're stimulating them efficiently but not overdoing it.
I've always had naturally small calves, which has sucked, but they're better now than they used to be, so...
03-05-2010, 02:08 PM
I believe one misconception people have that all you need to do is go heavy as hell, which I believe you need to go heavy BUT you also need to get a full range of motion. Save the half reps for when you absolutley can't get a full ROM. I always see so many people put the whole stack on and do like quarter reps and not doing one at a full stretch. And also do them with toes pointed in and out along with forward which should be your foundation. Also I think its good to do higher reps
03-05-2010, 05:07 PM
although it is not a calf exercise, since I have really worked leg curls into my routine and gotten pretty heavy with it is has helped increase the outward sweep of my calves.
03-05-2010, 07:32 PM
03-05-2010, 07:39 PM
they wont grow dude sorry. I can deadlift 440 and i suck at squat 315 max PL style... and my calfs are smaller then my cardio bunny sister
03-05-2010, 07:52 PM
I gotta chicken legs below the knees,but I do my raises with my toes up on a 2x4, so I can get a really really good stretch on the neg. Really burns them, but they'll never be like a fat white girl's calves.
I give a f**K!!
03-07-2010, 10:09 PM
I recently surrendered to seated calf raises only for a while, because that works my inner calf to get me that diamond cut look. I work them 2-3 times a week. I will also incorporate Leg press calf exercises, and standing but seated and donkey calf raises are the favorite for this guy.
03-07-2010, 10:22 PM
Just do HUNDRED'S of toe raisers every other day, my calfs are chiseled. Or.... THOUSANDS of skips every day, i used to do like 3000 everyday but when i started i used to do like 4000-5700 every saturday.
03-08-2010, 12:38 AM
Tons of work. Flex your calves in every step you take in a day. Do seated calf raises and standing raises ever 2-3 times a week. They are very resilient and can take a lot of weight/work. I used to think I just had great genetics for calves and thats why they've always been 17-18 inches, but I found I do work them a lot and and have always concentrated on using them throughout movements in a day. It may take a year or two to add up the work needed to make them grow, consistency is key as always, but it's great to have huge calves just the same as it's great to have huge arms/chest/back/legs/whatever.
03-08-2010, 12:41 AM
True, overload them. I plan on obliterating mine before this contest. I dont want that against me. Work them to death, and make them grow.
03-08-2010, 01:21 AM
03-08-2010, 02:43 PM
The key is consistent and heavy work with great technique. I think the biggest problem is that people don't use enough weight. For example, I would consider twice your bodyweight to be a fairly light weight when it comes to calves. If you train your calves consistently, they'll get stronger, allowing you to use more weight, thus increasing overload. It just takes a lot of work, time and effort. Also, make sure to go all the way up on your toes, then all the way down for a full stretch so that you're working the calves through their full range of motion. Rarely outside the gym do you use your calves through their full range of motion. I've been doing calves twice per week: one day I'll do 4 sets of standing calve raises and a few days later I'll do 4 sets of seated calve raises. For standing calve raises, try increasing the weight by a lot for your last set and just crank out a few really heavy reps (maybe just 3-4 reps). For seated calve raises, try doing a set, then remove some weight, another set right away, remove some weight, and so on until your calves feel like they're going to explode. Anything you can think of to increase your training intensity is good. If you just tack on a few sets for calves at the end of your workout and don't give it your all, you probably won't see much in the growth department.
How much they respond and develop is up to your own genetic potential but I'd wager that most people on these forums aren't up to their natural genetic potential when it comes to calves. By the way, my calves suck as well, but since I've been hitting them hard, I've noticed some improvement.
It might take months and months of hard work before you notice any change.
03-10-2010, 11:23 PM
03-11-2010, 01:57 AM
03-11-2010, 11:46 AM
03-11-2010, 06:07 PM
03-11-2010, 06:29 PM
Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS
03-11-2010, 06:40 PM
03-11-2010, 06:45 PM
03-11-2010, 06:46 PM
Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS
03-11-2010, 06:58 PM
03-11-2010, 07:02 PM
to add, here's an actual study supporting that as well
showing the Gastrocnemius as close to 50/50 slow/fast. The soleus is more slow twitch, but its a small part of the calf overall.
03-11-2010, 07:06 PM
Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS
03-11-2010, 07:44 PM
as far as everyone saying forearms and calves are genetic and wont grow, ive never heard worse advice.
this past year i made it my personal goal to bring both those muscle groups and with hard work i did just that. i had skinny 16 inch chicken calves and there now 20 inches, theres a pic on my page so yall cant call BS. i posted the whole thing in the bulking forum when i noticed i had stretch marks down the back of my calves.
forearms same, thing, no stetch marks but i got them to grow 2 1/2 inches in the year.
its heavy weight, low reps, slow reps, good form. thats it. if you disagree then your not doing one of those things. im really tired of people blamming genes for small calves. it seems like everyone who complains doesnt do them consistantly.
stretch them between sets too***
03-11-2010, 07:49 PM
Here is another interesting article to peruse.Interesting thoughts.
03-12-2010, 04:25 AM
i have read in ironman magazine that a full range of motion isnt that useful, i have also read it about ronnie coleman when he works his calves.
.He works from just above the middle of the stroke to down just short of full stretch - the semistretched point.
also if you take note of cyclists calves they are pretty impressive and they dont use a full range of motion either.
still different techniques can work for different people
03-12-2010, 01:19 PM
03-12-2010, 04:33 PM
03-12-2010, 05:31 PM
Thank God for genetics. I'm Asian and blessed with a good set of calves. All I really do are calf raises. I don't know about you dudes, but they've recently come out with special sneakers that "tone" your calves while you walk. It's like, curved and forces you to rock a bit to keep balanced. I know Scheckers has a pair. So does Avon brand Curves. I don't own a pair myself, but that's something you can check out. You figure you do enough walking for a day to make a difference.
I'm female, BTW.
03-12-2010, 06:13 PM
03-12-2010, 07:33 PM
03-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Take the good advice that was in this thread and attack them hard! Put as much effort as you do say chest or biceps into your calf training. Good luck!
03-12-2010, 08:54 PM
03-12-2010, 08:59 PM
in all this talk about calves I guess i more or less wonder what people consider big? Is it just proportional to biceps or talking about absolute size? mine are just 16ish, but that looks pretty big overall compared to most of what I see in my gym.
03-12-2010, 09:44 PM
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