Strong lifts 5x5
- 10-03-2009, 03:39 PM
- 10-03-2009, 03:45 PM
Not sure what the 5x5 is but 3 months is a long time to go without switching up the workout, I think the usual is around 6 weeks, correct me if I'm wrong.
- 10-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Go until you start plateauing would be my guess. Why stop a good thing?
10-03-2009, 10:23 PM
Its a great program. I haven't done it personally, but have read up on it. Do it like it is layed out and don't add or subtract anything. You will be pleased with the results.
10-04-2009, 01:51 AM
As long as your have good form, there really isn't a bad program to start out with. You'll get great gains regardless. Just keep focusing on the form. The rest will come.
10-04-2009, 03:04 PM
It worked great for me for leg development, but not so much for arm and shoulder development. I did it for about four months. I've lost alot of muscle since then though, so I have to start from scratch and learn form again once my back heals up.
10-04-2009, 04:15 PM
Not sure about squatting 3x a week, but if your legs grow so will everything else. It's mostly a core strength program.
I printed out the PDF file after putting in my numbers so I have all the weights to use when ramping, etc.
I just started it myself, and if I don't like it I'll change it up a bit and see what'll happen. I think I might change the lower weight wed. squats with extensions or something, and add a few isolations to finish of a day in the gym.
But 5x5 has been around I think since the 70's.
I give a f**K!!
10-04-2009, 05:21 PM
10-10-2009, 08:52 AM
Just do the program and DELOAD (which I haven't seen a single recommendation to do!) every 4th or 6th week. And go up by small increments of ~5lbs. a week. Do that, and you won't stall.
10-10-2009, 11:36 AM
10-10-2009, 05:19 PM
deload, not deadload. It means take a week off and do light maintenance lifting, about 50% effort or even less. Give your body a rest.
10-10-2009, 06:08 PM
Google it, DVD!! It explains the whole she-bang.
I'm going to throw in M-drol to P-plex at the end of week 4 and see if I can't keep ramping up, then do the de-load. Hopefully all will work out well and I can "cruise'' through PCT and be humungo.
Probably not, but its good to have dreams
I give a f**K!!
10-11-2009, 11:01 PM
i think its overrrated. 5 sets of 5 reps will take a ton of endurance. squats and deads doing 25 reps total sounds brutal, like overtraining.. it might work for you but when our football team used it i hated it..
10-20-2009, 08:53 PM
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10-21-2009, 01:20 AM
With these sorts of programs I like to use a journal. Write down all the amounts of weight you use on every exercise and the next week try to increase the weight on every exercise, not just squats.
10-21-2009, 10:36 AM
10-21-2009, 03:33 PM
10-21-2009, 05:31 PM
It depends on what your goal as far as lifting is? (i.e. strength etc...) Strength wise you need a lower rep higher wieght routine! Even as a starter, get use to this because you will do this a lot for strength gaining! Now I say that for the first six weeks you could do a 5x5 or something like that in order to tackle technique and muscle stamina which is highly important for your max effort lifts.
After you become custom to your technique and form on all your lifts 6 average to switch your routine. Sometimes I do a 4-6-8 week cycle trying to plateau at a max on a lift!
10-27-2009, 06:21 AM
5x5 work preety good for me for breaking platues i switj it up
once I break into higher weight super sets is cool to good
luck train hard shoots
10-27-2009, 05:53 PM
I'm almost halfway thru week 4 and beat my bench and squat PR's.....barely!!
Bench went like so....5 reps for 4 sets.....the last set I got 3 up, then 1, then 1 more, with just a brief 4-5 second pause between reps. Squats I almost got stuck on the last rep, but rocked it up there, thank God!!
The first week was brutal, the second not so bad, the 3rd worse, and this week here is just plain hellish!!! It was a fairly quick 45 min workout the first 2 weeks, but now I'm up a little over an hour, just because the rests in between sets is growing with the big increases in weight.
All in all, I'm pretty happy with it. Next week the 3x3's start, and I may either
A: hold the same weight and keep it at 5x5, or
B: up the weight and start adding in a bunch of isolations, since the 3x3's will free up some time. I'll hafta to feel it out....
Anyway, I definately recommend trying it at least for the first 4 week loading phase. It'll make a regular "one body part a week" routine seem like doing tap-dancing!!!
I give a f**K!!
10-29-2009, 03:57 AM
Are you training full intensity 3 x per week - to failure for each exercise??
I hope not, cos thats some serious over training don't you think?
10-29-2009, 04:12 PM
I do squats 3x a week, but only monday is a "heavy" set, I bench 2x a week, and incline once, but like squats, only 1 day is a heavy set.
Deadlifts are wednesday and heavy, but mon and fri back workouts are rows and pull ups/downs.
Now that the the 4 weeks "loading phase" is done, the next 4 weeks are 3sets of 5 reps instead of 5 sets, and squats on wednesday are dropped.
It'll be a welcome relief, fo sho'!!
I give a f**K!!
04-23-2012, 12:59 PM
Has anyone here actually read the SL5x5 program? What is with all this "imm'a train for 3 weeks then switch it up blah blah blah"
The program is simple:
Three workouts a week.
Squat, Bench and Pendlay rows one workout
Squat, OHP and DL the next
All sets are 5x5 except for the DL, which is 1x5
All sets are work sets, so you can add a few warm up sets at lighter weights.
Start with the bar on Squat, OHP, Bench and add 5 lb each time you do the workout.
Start with 95 lb on DL and add 10lb each time you do it.
Start with 65 lb on Row, add 5 each time you do it.
Go from there.
If you have not read the complete program, much less done it then why the fark are you guys commenting on it?
04-24-2012, 04:50 PM
04-24-2012, 05:25 PM
agree with Tardyon.... sounds like you didnt even read the whole program... it even talks about deload and everything in it.
It's a good program for a beginner.
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04-24-2012, 11:41 PM
The StrongLifts iPhone app has one of the smartest UI's I have seen in an exercise tracking app.
It will manage the deloads for you too so you don't have to. It's free so check it.
10-22-2012, 12:19 AM
Bringing this thread back to life! Haha, I'm starting this routine tomorrow I believe.
10-22-2012, 07:02 AM
I did stronglifts 5x5 when i started lifting....i liked it, it got my squat up to 315 5x5 and then i changed routines after that.
10-22-2012, 08:20 AM
Nice, I have to check the site out. I've only looked at it on my phone and it was just a video.Originally Posted by Tonycfh
10-22-2012, 09:52 AM
There is an app for SL as mentioned earlier in the thread. It really is a well done app and takes all guess work out. Well worth it if you are going to follow SL. Especially since it is Free.99
Also, don't listen to folks who say you have to change your routine every 6 weeks or so etc etc. This program is meant for the long haul and is a great strength program, especially for beginners. Many folks out there who say you have to change your routine up often do not know what they are talking about. If you ask them why they will say to things like "to keep you muscles guessing" or to "confuse" your muscles for growth. If you ask them to explain those statements they can't. Because simply those statements are wrong. What they are eluding to actually is periodization and progressive overload, but in the wrong manner. You can achieve the latter with weight increments, deload periods, rep changes, etc etc.
Have fun man.
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10-22-2012, 09:56 AM
Thanks man! I did download the app and I am looking forward to starting today!Originally Posted by CopyCat
10-22-2012, 10:05 AM
Love strong lifts. But im more i.to a high volume rutine . It ur starting out dont do it. U realy have to keep ur form in check. U go up in weight realy quick. Tweaking ur back becuase a false movement sux. U should cycle:
high volume 2.5 months
Rest 1 week
Then strong lifts or pyrimid. SL takes a lot of gym time up to.
But SL unmodified is awsome, modded is good to, well 5x5 is the sh!t
GAME ON! MOVAH FUKAZ!
10-22-2012, 10:07 AM
changing routine every few months breaks platues and keeps it intresting. But it all depends on goals and joint stress
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10-22-2012, 10:17 AM
Not new, just saw it on YouTube and it seemed interesting. I'll try it out and see what happens. Even though I am cutting.Originally Posted by murk01
10-22-2012, 06:59 PM
running it right now, going on nearly 3 months. the app is a lifesaver as well
10-22-2012, 11:43 PM
I started it today, and I don't have an Olympic bar but I have a home gym with squat and chest press machine, so the weight I was a little unsure of. And I have to so the overhead press with dumbbells. But I hope to see some good results from it.
10-23-2012, 03:00 PM
There is no need to change routines every few months, thats broscience. If your routine is still working keep doing it. And if your programs routinely fail after a few weeks/months, than the program sucked to begin with or something else is wrong (diet, rest, loads ect.)
10-23-2012, 03:04 PM
10-23-2012, 08:45 PM
Good to know. Thanks.
10-23-2012, 09:58 PM
I just finished a 5x5 variation (Madcows) and it definitely made me stronger in the big lifts. My hamstring and chest development both improved, and my back got significantly stronger. I'm interested to see what the carry over will be once I get a few weeks into my current programming.
I think 5x5 would be a good foundation, but make sure you're using proper form and lifting safely - lifting heavy with poor form is a recipe for injury (duh) but I think it's a solid program.
Go hard. Go heavy. Never stop.
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