not getting muscle sorness
- 08-27-2009, 05:03 PM
- 08-27-2009, 05:06 PM
change what exercises you are doing, which is something everyone should do on a regular basis. if you want you can lay out your current plan, and i'll help you pick alternate exercisesAnimis Rep
- 08-27-2009, 05:17 PM
this is my routine for tomorrow
reg bench 145 3x7
tricep(machine) 125 3x6
bicep curl(machine) 140 3x6
ab(machine) 155 3x15
decline situp 3x15
lat pulldown 100 3x6
seted row(bottom grip) 125 3x6
3 games of racket ball afterward
08-27-2009, 05:22 PM
so i'd substitute in incline presses, seated triceps extensions with ez bar, db curls, leave abs + situps, either change to wide grip or narrow grip on pulldowns (depending on what you were doing) and do db rows instead
08-27-2009, 05:27 PM
08-29-2009, 12:46 PM
08-29-2009, 01:12 PM
if you're still gaining strength/reps, it doesn't matter honestly. my doms is rather weak - vague soreness, but nothing crippling like it used to be. you could sub your barbell movements for dumbell, etc if you just want to feel doms again. so long as you're progressing weekly, i think doms is overrated.
08-29-2009, 09:04 PM
or drop weights a little and switch to higher rep range.
08-30-2009, 12:52 AM
08-30-2009, 10:40 PM
the reason i think your not getting sore is that ur not doing enough exercises per body part. If anything jack3d will get you more sore because it helps you push and work harder. Try splitting up chest/shoulders/tris in one work out and back/bis/forearms and then a seperate day for legs thats what i do. And do about 3 to 4 exercises for each muscle group. Since when you work out chest you also workout shoulders and tris, you triceps and shoulders will be blasted when you finish and samething with back and bis. My muscles stay sore for about 3 days. I also recommend you get a workout partner to help you push out a couple more reps.
09-01-2009, 11:11 PM
09-01-2009, 11:32 PM
09-02-2009, 08:08 AM
09-02-2009, 10:20 AM
09-02-2009, 10:22 AM
09-02-2009, 10:40 AM
I don't see how people train without having at least some DOMS. I have trouble getting biceps sore, but everything else always gets sore after a good training session. The things I've noticed that lessen the DOMS is lack of a M-M connection, inadequate eccentric contraction, and, obviously, bad form.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
09-02-2009, 11:10 AM
Ill be honest, I have some SLIGHT tightness for the first time in a long time from doing WAY more volume than normal. I am a hit it and quit it type guy - swing the hammer - move the nail - stop swinging the hammer. Less soreness, more frequency
09-02-2009, 11:13 AM
09-02-2009, 11:32 AM
09-02-2009, 11:35 AM
09-02-2009, 11:37 AM
After doing leg press calves then legs, I just sit in the leg press machine a good 10 minutes because I just can't get up. tomorrow will be chest/shoulders/tris/back again, and front delts and pecs are still slightly sore, particularly to the touch today
09-02-2009, 11:55 AM
09-02-2009, 12:22 PM
09-02-2009, 12:44 PM
increase your reps for a few weeks, and do some german high intensity training, THAT shiat will make you seriously sore!
i also rarely get sore much anymore unless i switch up my workout something serious or do something new.
09-02-2009, 12:50 PM
If building bigger, stronger muscles is the objective, it looks as if extreme DOMS is mostly beside the point.
"From the looks of things, DOMS and actual muscle growth don’t have much to do with each other."
"All of this would strongly indicate that connective tissues are the source of the actual pain and soreness, not the muscle fibers themselves. The damaging effects of exercise on actual muscle fibers don’t correlate with pain. This is of interest because it means that inflammation and pain don’t indicate damaged muscle fibers per se. There’s tissue damage, and muscle fibers can be damaged along with that, but there’s no actual relation between muscle fiber damage and the pain you feel."
09-02-2009, 03:00 PM
09-02-2009, 04:54 PM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
09-02-2009, 05:26 PM
09-02-2009, 05:29 PM
09-02-2009, 06:08 PM
09-02-2009, 06:33 PM
09-02-2009, 06:45 PM
09-02-2009, 10:28 PM
I don't believe there is a 1:1 ratio of DOMS and hypertrophy at all, I believe DOMS serves a purpose, but I don't know enough about the "function" of DOMS in order to say yay or nay. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with the debate topic, just pointing out the less then black & white scope in which research puts out in regards to the issue of DOMS.
NSCA - CSCS
09-02-2009, 10:36 PM
I still think most doms is caused by lactic acid OR novel muscle trauma (ie higher weight than ever before or completely unique angle/movement). These can be of varying levels of usefulness but I know personally I have a very very very hard time getting any body part sore that I train regularly.
09-02-2009, 10:41 PM
09-02-2009, 10:43 PM
09-02-2009, 10:46 PM
09-03-2009, 04:25 PM
My two cents...simple solution: train harder
Increase your weight
Increase your reps
Decrease your rest
Hit more supersets at the end to burn out
Focus on one body part and blast the f*ck out of it
You can do one...two.. or all of the above
If you want drop the racket all and train to thorough muscular failure.
09-03-2009, 07:04 PM
09-03-2009, 07:55 PM
soreness is caused by the millions of micro tears caused by either sacroplasmic or myofibrillar hypertrophy
Sacroplasmic is caused by bodybuilding type routines
Myofibrillar is caused by powerlifting/ olympic lifting type routines
So my conclusion based on these facts is that your are not causing enough hypertrophy. Now i dont know how you lift, what your routine looks like, and so on but the fact you say you dont get sore is suggestive of either
A) you have amazing recuperative abilities that i envy
B) you arent causing enough hypertrophy to cause soreness
But if you are increasing in strength, stamina, and size and you never get sore then who am i to say train harder? You are probably far more experienced and seasoned then myself.
But in general, when i encounter an individual in my daily encounters who say they dont get sore, when i lift with them i see THEY dont push themselves. But i cant speak for anyone but them, one day of training at my pace and they magically feel sore.
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