- 11-01-2008, 07:54 PM
- 11-01-2008, 08:04 PM
- 5'9" 201 lbs.
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possible. though overtraining gets thrown around a lot these days.
if you're still increasing weights at the gym, or increasing reps, you're not overtraining.
overtraining is marked by a decrease in weights/reps, lethargy, and getting sick (compromised immune system).
- 11-01-2008, 08:20 PM
Bump! Suncloud is deffo right!
11-01-2008, 09:58 PM
Well I'm still seeing gains, I was only checking because I've been working out twice a day. I keep the sessions short (30-45 min each).
11-01-2008, 11:16 PM
two-a-days are terrific - I've used them in the past and am working up to them again. However, when using two-a-days, nutrition because even more paramount than when lifting once per day. Two sessions will send your metabolism sky high - pre, intra and post-workout with carbs, amino acids and protein is a must as well as a large amount of vitamins, minerals and antioxidants throughout the day (i.e. fruits, veggies, healthy fats, etc.).
If you're not eating enough, you'll burn out - quick!
However, if your are, you'll lose fat and gain muscle - quick!
Also, lots of sleep is a big help and every two to three weeks reduce your frequency to once-a-day for a week, then resume two-a-days. The change prevents overtraining and gives opportunity for recovery.
11-02-2008, 12:39 AM
Ya I've been using melatonin to help with quality sleep.
11-02-2008, 01:43 PM
Another vote for what suncloud said. Once you cant make gains, and even start losing them, plus noticing you feel like sh** all the time, your probably overtraining. Overtraining is not related to your muscles so its completely possible to have it w/o soreness. Since overtraining is an overload on your nervous system it wouldnt necessarily cause soreness at all. So just watch out for the symptoms suncloud mentions and your good.
11-02-2008, 10:45 PM
yes. and i agree suncloud. for me to see gains i have to do crazy workouts. what most consider way beyong "over-training". are are talking a possible 40-50 reps of nice size weight per exercise and around 5-7 exercises per muscle group. over training for some, but it produces hell of results for me
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11-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Just recently I discovered how "poorly" I was eating.. Not persay in quality of foods, but overall macro counts and such... I devote a lot of energy in the gym, I run and do extra PT with my soldiers and just now since I changed my eating I am WAYYYY stronger, and energy WAY UP!!!
11-03-2008, 12:31 PM
Carb cycling and not cutting calories too low are the best things for me
11-03-2008, 03:04 PM
11-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Do you use carb cycling to help with carb loading as well?
11-03-2008, 03:27 PM
Yeah, carb cycling has really helped with my insulin sensitivity - I'll eat carbs before, during and after working out and then limit them the rest of the day. I also vary how much carbs I have from day to day, going from high to moderate to low.
I have a detailed description of a current "high" day from my diet plan over in my log, if you want to see what that looks like, it's at:
Chemical Weapon Barrage! - Unleashing Muscle Pharm's "Hardcore" Stack!
a bit of a self-plug, but it should give you an idea of what I'm talking about. Hope it helps.
12-01-2008, 08:43 AM
- 5'9" 196 lbs.
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dumb question but if your getting the right amount of cals and carb and protiens in a day you wont have to worry about overtraining?
12-01-2008, 12:26 PM
12-01-2008, 12:41 PM
i completely agree with suncloud. If you jump from working out 3 days a week to two a days then ya I would say be careful of overtraining. However if you work your way up to two a days then your fine. Just to give my 2 cents, keep periodization always in mind. In a month or two it may be beneficial to cut back on the two a days for a while and then work your way back up again. It's amazing how well your body adapts
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