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Old 08-05-2008, 09:30 PM   #1
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Poll: Forum addition-Injury/Treatment

Cuffs brought it to our attention that a Injury/Treatment forum would be a good thing to have. What do ya'll think?

I like the idea. We have several people that I know of personally who are training through injuries and using certain supplements to help them along. Might easier to locate them all in one spot.
 



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Old 08-05-2008, 10:25 PM   #2
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I think it's a great idea jay!

Edit: and yes, you're hella cool brotha.
 



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Old 08-06-2008, 12:18 AM   #3
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good idea, i have a wealth of experience in this dept - if i do say so myself - so i'd love to share some hard earned knowledge on this topic.

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Old 08-06-2008, 03:12 AM   #4
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It is a great idea. I have an elbow injury that has caused pain for over six months. i havent done upper body in two-three months. im just starting to do presses of any kind and doing high rep (I did 30 pounds on each side of the smith machine today , 30 reps and still felt some pain) I cannot do any pull up or pull down movement or arms. It sucks bad. Ive tried a lot. Cissus, bromelain, Physical therapy, had an x-ray, had an MRI, Nsaids, mega dosed fiish oil(currently taking 10 per day now) cut out red meat-because it contains AA which works the exact opposite of fish oil.

Ive taking a couple months off and only have done legs and deadlift. I want to be able to get back in and add some mass all over. In fact I'm burning for it.

Cortisone shot may be next or I may wait as I hear it just masks the pain and it doesn't heal it. I heard hgh injected works and I go by the IFPA/Oco rules; however if this is the only option Id for sure do it for my elbow.I've also HEARD ART therapy is magic.I heard deca works but not significantly.

I tryed flexall 16 % menthol for months and now trying Lg sciences liquid rub on stuff. The bottle is actually out now.

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Could have been improper lifting technique. i could have flarred my elbows too much on presses or done kept my arms strait up on e4xtensions or done something improper form on biceps. or stretched my forearms too much.

It could have been me pushing in carts. so hard to say the cause. I think it was improper lifting technue, maybe going to heavy and pushing with my joints instead of feeling the squeezing the muscle each rep, such powering it up year after year, over the years, and pushing in carts(only did this three months).
 



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Old 08-06-2008, 04:32 AM   #5
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Sounds like a fantastic idea!
 
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:15 AM   #6
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totally great idea, and J hella cool grandpa
 
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I voted yeah, too. Here are some reasons regarding serious inuries from my personal experience
1) Reassurance and moral support for the injured. It's really hard for most of the obsessed (myself included) to know that we can’t work out for 2 months and will be starting over again and if we can really even do it. Also, it's nice to know what is reasonable progress. In some cases its years, but still doable.
2) Know the things (physical therapies mostly) you can do to speed things along.
3) You need to know what to do before you’re hurt, some injuries can wait but some can’t.
4) As well intended as the medical profession/insurance carriers maybe, the bottom line is, in order to get the best treatment you have to be your own advocate.
5) As in anything else, there are definitely screwups in the medical profession, if something doesn’t seem right then challenge it. For example, when I tore both quads (100% on the left, 75% on the right) the MRI people couldn’t find anything wrong. Quads are about the biggest in the human body, you’d have to be blind to miss them. I knew as soon as I walked in to the place I didn’t feel comfortable with the staff, but decided to be open-minded. In the end the surgeon operated on me without really knowing what to expect. I’ve stopped being open-minded.
6) The medical profession seems to have different ideas of what a full recovery is. I think to them, it’s “will the patient recover enough to be normal”, but for us a full recovery means being able to do what we’ve done in the past.
7) It's nice to know that good things can come from all this. While it was one of the worst experiences in my life, there were some experiences that I wouldn't want to do without.

I think Cuff’s problem has a lot to do with items 3, 4, and maybe 5. ISTM ligament repairs can wait because usually they are being completely replaced, while tendons are actually repaired but atrophy pretty fast. It took me 2 weeks to get sewed back together, and some doctors still ask me why I waited so long, it’s because the system can really suck.

Anyway, what I’m trying to get across is that most of us rarely get hurt so we’re really not very good at knowing what to do. And when you’re injured it really too late to get your ducks in a row.

Hope this helps.
 



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Thanks for the input fellas, keep em coming!
 



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I tweaked my wrist doing close-grip bench presses last night. Went too close. It's the outside of my left wrist. I'm icing it and taking some IBpro and tylenol. Any other ideas? I'm thinking of getting some kind of splint, but don't know which. Too keep it straight.
 
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I tweaked my wrist doing close-grip bench presses last night. Went too close. It's the outside of my left wrist. I'm icing it and taking some IBpro and tylenol. Any other ideas? I'm thinking of getting some kind of splint, but don't know which. Too keep it straight.
I suspect this msg isn't meant for this thread (it's suposed to be a poll), but anyway, you'd need to give more details. It sounds like maybe a strain, if that's the case rest and light therapy (high reps) would be one of the things to do. I'm not a big fan of NSAIDs unless you have real pain issues. They don't do anything for the healing process and some say they can make it worse).
 



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Hell yes! I'm fighting through some elbow pain as well, but it seems to slowly be getting better. I've been lifting for almost 10 years now, but I've had a multitude of injuries from broken bones to a torn tricep; multiple knee operations to a broken back. I'm actually riding my longest 'relatively healthy' streak in a long time, which is at about 9 months. (*Knock on wood*) It'd be great to have a section to turn to for advice, possibly rehab routines, things to avoid, or even just moral support when one's feeling down. I'm all for it.

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This will be probably the most used forum lol. I mean, we are all messed up in one way or another lol.
 



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Ain't that the truth Might need a psych recovery forum too :P
 



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I read it fast and thought it was an addiction forum...
 



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