5aOHP

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    Im very intrigued by the 5aOHP, but after lots of researching and some hit and miss logs, seems this stuff just isnt very reputable? Here are some thoughts from Patrick Arnold, who knows his stuff obviously.

    Just some food for thought. Im not saying its good or bad either way, but just something to look into.

    PA : 5a-pregnanedione simply cannot have anabolic activity and thats undebateable
    PA: this is not a progestin. 5a reduction destroys progestational activity
    PA: why is there no lot number on the bottle as required by law? why are the chemical names written in an ambiguous and incorrect manner? why does it say 6 grams per serving, 50 servings per bottle, yet the entire bottle only weighs 220 - 230 grams
    PA: if it contains what it says i will definitely report it. but it would kinda be a moot point anyway, given the poor potential of the active imo
    PA: there are mistakes and then there are gross oversights and negligence - about 5aOHP
    PA: remove the solvent and then react the ingredient with lead tetraacetate and then redissolve the 5a-adione you get
    PA: i see no significant effects from this stuff - good or bad
    PA: My suspicion is the extenet of metabolism is too low to be worthwhile
    Not being disrespectful here but given the past history of strong *****ry between Eric and Pat, do you think that Pat would be saying GOOD things about any of Eric's products? PA is a very intelligent man but as they say, "The proof is in the pudding!" People are running this product and having positive outcomes -- even non-sponsored people. As ol' Forrest Gump says, "That's all I got to say bout that."
    Jeremiah 29:11-14


  2. Patrick is intelligent, but his history with Eric is no secret. There are very well respected members who have run 5aohp, I posted a thread with reviews that shows members having great results.
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  3. I just started my bottle of 5a a couple days ago. This is the 2nd run for me. The 1st run was nothing short of awesome!! I'm super busy lately, so I'll post up a nice review at the end of the run. I already got my "before" pics!
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by enhanced
    I just started my bottle of 5a a couple days ago. This is the 2nd run for me. The 1st run was nothing short of awesome!! I'm super busy lately, so I'll post up a nice review at the end of the run. I already got my "before" pics!
    Sweet looking forward to it bro!
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by enhanced View Post
    I just started my bottle of 5a a couple days ago. This is the 2nd run for me. The 1st run was nothing short of awesome!! I'm super busy lately, so I'll post up a nice review at the end of the run. I already got my "before" pics!
    A repeat offender lol. I'm a little foggy on all the logs and what not (if you kept one). What did you notice your first time around?
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  6. I'll add my name to the list for being serious impressed by 5aOHP, for the most part I trust PA but everything has to be taken with a grain of salt for these PH's . For me 5aOHP delivered serious strength increase and leaning while putting on muscle with zero sides.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by SynergyIre View Post
    I'll add my name to the list for being serious impressed by 5aOHP, for the most part I trust PA but everything has to be taken with a grain of salt for these PH's . For me 5aOHP delivered serious strength increase and leaning while putting on muscle with zero sides.
    The good responses just keep rolling in! Love it. You guys are making me tempted to start this a bit early and run the 5aohp solo bridged to hdrol for a killer cycle! HMMMM.... It has been three months since I started pct..... ;-)
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by SynergyIre View Post
    I'll add my name to the list for being serious impressed by 5aOHP, for the most part I trust PA but everything has to be taken with a grain of salt for these PH's . For me 5aOHP delivered serious strength increase and leaning while putting on muscle with zero sides.
    Thnks bud for the comment. Yes, even though things dont make since written on paper. What happens in the body is crazy sometimes.

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  9. Don't 5aohp and H-Drol both utilize the same enzymes for conversion? This would make me think Hdrol will not be the ideal weapon of choice to stack with 5aohp. I know that there's some debate that Hdrol has activity before conversion, so I'm not saying that it's a bad stack, just maybe not the most idea. I'd be very interested to see feedback from anybody that has already stacked these two.

    EDIT: I just did a quick search. I must have confused some my previous research, b/c this does not appear to be the case in regards to the enzyme conversion pathways.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  10. ok. Very cool. I wasnt aware of the past history between PA and Eric. Sounds like a good product and after more research, seems the logs are having great feedback on this stuff. I may have to run this soon.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    Thnks bud for the comment. Yes, even though things dont make since written on paper. What happens in the body is crazy sometimes.
    No problem, I won't even say crazy, but not fully understood. Alot of what can look good on paper doesn't always pan out either . Conflicting opinions are great once each speaker has a rational science based theory behind it. If we lived in a world with only products PA approved of then it wouldn't be quite as interesting or fun, the same could be said for Eric... We're thankful and lucky to have them both :-D!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    The good responses just keep rolling in! Love it. You guys are making me tempted to start this a bit early and run the 5aohp solo bridged to hdrol for a killer cycle! HMMMM.... It has been three months since I started pct..... ;-)
    I should add this was at minimum dose... 4ml a day. Significant weight/rep increases EVERY workout

  13. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas
    Don't 5aohp and H-Drol both utilize the same enzymes for conversion? This would make me think Hdrol will not be the ideal weapon of choice to stack with 5aohp. I know that there's some debate that Hdrol has activity before conversion, so I'm not saying that it's a bad stack, just maybe not the most idea. I'd be very interested to see feedback from anybody that has already stacked these two.

    EDIT: I just did a quick search. I must have confused some my previous research, b/c this does not appear to be the case in regards to the enzyme conversion pathways.
    :-) our bro Johnny suggested it.
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  14. Yeah, like I said, I double checked and I was obviously confusing some other products.

    I'm not sure what I was researching before, though. Now that I think about, I was interested in running longer non-methyl cycle. Hdrol obviously doesn't fit into that category.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  15. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Yeah, like I said, I double checked and I was obviously confusing some other products.

    I'm not sure what I was researching before, though. Now that I think about, I was interested in running longer non-methyl cycle. Hdrol obviously doesn't fit into that category.

    Hey , its all good man. I just had a nice run with the two, Sometimes Im confusing the hell out of myself. I mean you can read so much stuff everyday, its easy to confuse compounds.

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  16. Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ

    Hey , its all good man. I just had a nice run with the two, Sometimes Im confusing the hell out of myself. I mean you can read so much stuff everyday, its easy to confuse compounds.
    Agree, hence why we will only neg stx once for this... :-D
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  17. You ran HDrol with 5aohp? I missed where you said that. I have two bottles of 5aohp from a trade.

    I just looked through my stash and realized what I was researching.

    LOL. Neg at will, but be warned...I'm not afraid to counter.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  18. Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    ok. Very cool. I wasnt aware of the past history between PA and Eric. Sounds like a good product and after more research, seems the logs are having great feedback on this stuff. I may have to run this soon.
    No problem! Look forward to hearing how your cycle goes if you do!
    Jeremiah 29:11-14

  19. As of today, I'm bumping up to 8 doses per day. Loving this stuff!!
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    3X a day would be fine.
    ^This

  21. Bump-tastic!

  22. sweet man

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  23. What's is this stuff?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by X2006ibm View Post
    What's is this stuff?
    What it is y'all!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by X2006ibm View Post
    What's is this stuff?
    http://taurus-nutrition.com/muscle-b...p-presale.html

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