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  1. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast

    10g BA/day??

    I like everything else being dosed that high, but I don't know if I've heard of anyone mega-dosing BA that high (not saying it would be a problem; just not something I'd heard of).

    And if adding this in is new, don't forget that your amino acids are extra calories you're taking in. It's nothing to scare you out of taking them, but just realize that's going to factor into your daily totals.

    (figured I'd offer up something relevant since I attempted to derail this thing again)
    Maybe he likes the skin tingling feeling a lot. I know I do!! :thumbs:


  2. Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy

    Maybe he likes the skin tingling feeling a lot. I know I do!! :thumbs:
    The tingling in the face is the worst. Makes u itch like crazy. Don't want people thinking in on drugs lol
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman

    The tingling in the face is the worst. Makes u itch like crazy. Don't want people thinking in on drugs lol
    I love it. I'm a freak.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    10g BA/day??

    I like everything else being dosed that high, but I don't know if I've heard of anyone mega-dosing BA that high (not saying it would be a problem; just not something I'd heard of).

    And if adding this in is new, don't forget that your amino acids are extra calories you're taking in. It's nothing to scare you out of taking them, but just realize that's going to factor into your daily totals.



    (figured I'd offer up something relevant since I attempted to derail this thing again)
    Haha. Thanks Midwest. Yeah i understand that this is something to factor into my totals. But I talked with one of the best natural bbers in the world...and he said best thing I can do to stave off hunger in between meals is to just mega dose the branch chains.

    I'm sure it's not going to be a deal breaker with the extra cals as I continue to slow cut cals away from the diet

    I've never dosed BA that high either. I guess we'll see what happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    Maybe he likes the skin tingling feeling a lot. I know I do!! :thumbs:
    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    The tingling in the face is the worst. Makes u itch like crazy. Don't want people thinking in on drugs lol
    Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    I love it. I'm a freak.
    Yeah guys I love the BA tingling. Makes me know the $hit ain't bunk.


    So tonight I decided to lift quads and shoulders/traps and some abs.....and I think i'll go back to the gym tomorrow and hit hams and shoulders/traps again. I know most of you would say that's a horrible idea. But i'm totally seeing an increase in endurance with this stack so far. And honestly even though it goes again the rule of not enough rest....i think it could be beneficial to hypertrophy and growth. And i'm on anyways so who gives a $hit haha.

    BB squats - 135x10, 225x10, 275x8, 275x6, 315x4 drop to 225x6 drop to 135x10 (last two drop sets were sloww)
    BB Shrugs - 135x10, 225x10, 315x10, 365x8, x8 drop to 225x10 x10 (last two sets were slow and control with pauses)
    Leg Extensions - 150x10, 165x10, 180x10, 195x8, 210x8, 225x8
    One Arm DB Laterals - 30x10, x10, 35x10, x10
    Various Weighted Ab Circuits
    Leg Press - 4pps x10, 5pps x10, 6pps x8, 6pps x8
    Machine Shoulder Press - 120x10, 130x10, 140x10

    Cycling class for one hour! This will be my new monday night cardio. It kicked my ass AND there were lots of hotties in there. Yeah buddy.

    Dosing goes up to 5 ML of each today - 2ML AM, 2ML Afternoon, 1ML Before Bed

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  6. looking good man. Cycling class does sound alot better when theres alot of hotties

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    The first time I got the BA tingles, I was incredibly unsettled and nervous. After that I liked them, but anymore, I prefer not dealing with them lol.

    I always joked with a friend about spiking punch at a frat party with a ton of beta alanine and niacin (the funny thing is the niacin might actually be marginally beneficial to them).

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Colbicide View Post
    Subbed and good luck!
    Thanks man glad to have you

  9. Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    looking good man. Cycling class does sound alot better when theres alot of hotties
    Haha yeah and it's more interesting that a boring 30 mins on the dreadmill

  10. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    The first time I got the BA tingles, I was incredibly unsettled and nervous. After that I liked them, but anymore, I prefer not dealing with them lol.

    I always joked with a friend about spiking punch at a frat party with a ton of beta alanine and niacin (the funny thing is the niacin might actually be marginally beneficial to them).
    Haha that would be hillarious....I absolutely hate niacin flush....love the BA tingles

  11. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Haha yeah and it's more interesting that a boring 30 mins on the dreadmill
    Treadmill is not that bad if you got ur IPod filled with some Adrenaline filled tunes.

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Treadmill is not that bad if you got ur IPod filled with some Adrenaline filled tunes.

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    Yeah i mean I have plenty of that....just nice to switch things up cardio gets VERY boring

  13. Yeah switching things up can help things from becoming stale.

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Thanks man. Might up that even more. I work at a supplement store and get my Core ABC at a nice discount

    5g leucine
    2.5g valine
    2.5g isoleucine
    2.5g glutamine
    2.5g beta alanine
    2.5g citrulline malate

    So basically 4 servings of this per day
    Just remember that's 220+ extra calories your taking in a day. Doesn't seem like much, but if your cutting it will add up.

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    The first time I got the BA tingles, I was incredibly unsettled and nervous. After that I liked them, but anymore, I prefer not dealing with them lol.

    I always joked with a friend about spiking punch at a frat party with a ton of beta alanine and niacin (the funny thing is the niacin might actually be marginally beneficial to them).
    Some people drink hard liquor in the winter to keep them warm, others take a couple scoops of Poseidon and let the "flush" do it's thing
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Just remember that's 220+ extra calories your taking in a day. Doesn't seem like much, but if your cutting it will add up.
    Can I ask how you calculate that number?

    Yes, it will add up. On off days I won't be using the pre and intra dosing. But in my mind these cals are going to help me hold on to muscle tissue and stay anabolic and maybe even recomp some since i'm on. I can easily balance out those 200 cals by cutting out the natty pb i've been eating before bed or switching my two whole eggs for egg whites or even cutting out my oats. Plenty of options

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Can I ask how you calculate that number?

    Yes, it will add up. On off days I won't be using the pre and intra dosing. But in my mind these cals are going to help me hold on to muscle tissue and stay anabolic and maybe even recomp some since i'm on. I can easily balance out those 200 cals by cutting out the natty pb i've been eating before bed or switching my two whole eggs for egg whites or even cutting out my oats. Plenty of options
    Four cals/gram on the aminos(though in reality it's probably a little higher)

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  17. Nice man! I've always wondered how to calculate those numbers...

  18. Nice share Prld2! I geek over stuff like that.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Yeah i mean I have plenty of that....just nice to switch things up cardio gets VERY boring
    I have a difficult time doing cardio even with some good tunes! I need to start hitting the heavy bag for some good cardio instead.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    I have a difficult time doing cardio even with some good tunes! I need to start hitting the heavy bag for some good cardio instead.
    You talking about the thing boxers use or the old fat lady at the gym?
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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Some people drink hard liquor in the winter to keep them warm, others take a couple scoops of Poseidon and let the "flush" do it's thing
    lol I hadn't thought about that. Not a bad idea. I think we must keep bulk BA and niacin in our emergency preparedness kits, then

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Nice man! I've always wondered how to calculate those numbers...
    I'd actually created a thread on here several months back asking about this, before I knew.

    For some odd reason, I was naive and thought they were free of calories (which obviously makes no sense). When you start mega-dosing stuff and you're cutting, it certainly makes a difference. Obviously if it's kept constant, then it's not a big deal, but when it comes to the point of removing some extra mega-dosed amino acids or some whole food, I'll be getting rid of the aminos, first.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    lol I hadn't thought about that. Not a bad idea. I think we must keep bulk BA and niacin in our emergency preparedness kits, then



    I'd actually created a thread on here several months back asking about this, before I knew.

    For some odd reason, I was naive and thought they were free of calories (which obviously makes no sense). When you start mega-dosing stuff and you're cutting, it certainly makes a difference. Obviously if it's kept constant, then it's not a big deal, but when it comes to the point of removing some extra mega-dosed amino acids or some whole food, I'll be getting rid of the aminos, first.
    I think it's a Catch 22. I know there is an obvious value to whole food.....but i've also seen where guys have leaned up big time utilizing BCAAs while in a caloric deficit. And lets not forget I am on cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    I think it's a Catch 22. I know there is an obvious value to whole food.....but i've also seen where guys have leaned up big time utilizing BCAAs while in a caloric deficit. And lets not forget I am on cycle
    Oh no doubt, man. I'm referring more to the very late stages of a properly set up diet/cut. I know some people are down to 1900 cal/day and nonsense like that (or lower) and they're not tiny guys. I'm just saying at low levels of caloric intake like that, I'd certainly prefer (and mentally need) those sources coming from true food. BCAAs are certainly nice, but that would be where I'd be cutting down on the huge dose of beta alanine, glutamine, etc.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    I have a difficult time doing cardio even with some good tunes! I need to start hitting the heavy bag for some good cardio instead.
    Yeah I actually used to train jiu-jitsu and tae kwon do so I will do this like once a week....usually on sat. Lots of kicks and punching combos with some jump rope thrown in between to keep it interesting

  25. Guys I might cheat tonight I usually try to save it for the weekends but it's free pancakes at IHOP.......decisions decisions lol

  26. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Guys I might cheat tonight I usually try to save it for the weekends but it's free pancakes at IHOP.......decisions decisions lol
    Eat a stack for me

  27. And I like real maple syrup and butter not that fake sugar sryup $hit.

  28. Since you are in a calorie deficit bcaas is very important on keeping your muscles while cutting up. I have mega doses bcaas while cutting calories. The calories in bcaas will be soaked up like a sponge because of the low calories You are consuming. Jus my 2 cents

  29. Alright so I stuck to my guns and didn't go to IHOP

    Here's how tonight's workout went...endurance is still very apparent

    DB Shrugs - 100x10, 105x10, 110x10, 115x10, 120x8, 130x8
    Seated Leg Curls - 110x10, 115x10, 120x10, 125x8, 130x8, x8
    Stiff Legged DLs - 185x10, 225x10, 225x8, 225x8 (my quads hurt sooo bad from yesterday)
    HS Should Press - 2p x10, 2p25 x8, x8, 3p x4 drop to 2p x8
    Lying Leg Curls - 100 x10 4-5 sets don't remember
    Some quick weighted ab exercises

    5 min on the jacob's ladder.....10 min incline treadmill walking.....10 min HIIT on treadmill

    also had some jump rope thrown in here and there....

  30. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Alright so I stuck to my guns and didn't go to IHOP

    Here's how tonight's workout went...endurance is still very apparent

    DB Shrugs - 100x10, 105x10, 110x10, 115x10, 120x8, 130x8
    Seated Leg Curls - 110x10, 115x10, 120x10, 125x8, 130x8, x8
    Stiff Legged DLs - 185x10, 225x10, 225x8, 225x8 (my quads hurt sooo bad from yesterday)
    HS Should Press - 2p x10, 2p25 x8, x8, 3p x4 drop to 2p x8
    Lying Leg Curls - 100 x10 4-5 sets don't remember
    Some quick weighted ab exercises

    5 min on the jacob's ladder.....10 min incline treadmill walking.....10 min HIIT on treadmill

    also had some jump rope thrown in here and there....
    Man you had some endurance today! That's a lot of substance in that workout
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