Have you tried 5 aOHP? Why not???
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02-09-2012 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
Aleksandar37
I thought I ran a log on this. In case I didn't, 5aOHP rocks! I'm a really big fan

Yes you did. 
Originally Posted by
Aleksandar37
Overall, my stack was amazing! I can only speak for recomp purposes as that is what my aim was and it did not let me down. I had consistent increases in strength and endurance while weight training without any negative sides. This isn't SD and doesn't claim to be, but I experienced loss of bf with increases in strength to a degree that I haven't been able to achieve with diet and exercise alone. The last PH that I used was epistane and the lethargy that I got with that was horrible, including rise in bp that kept me from using any stims or pre-workout drinks. 5aOHP though didn't increase my bp at all and worked very well with pre-workouts.
My only complaints would be that I ended up needing two bottles since I ran the dosage a bit higher, but that is what worked for me and honestly I can't say I wouldn't have gotten the same results with one bottle's worth. I just wanted to be sure so I ran it high. I'm also not a fan of having to deal with the oral syringes. A dropper-type package would have been nicer and less messy, but it's not that big of a pain to use the syringes that I wouldn't use a product just based on that.
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02-09-2012 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
prld2gr8ns
Yes you did.

Thank you for finding that! One bottle of any of them may be enough for some, but it does seem like others are running more than one bottle. Plus you can stack 5aOHP with M1P or P-Bold too. There really are a lot of possibilities there. The price is sweet as well. These are not running much more than many PHs out there and the great thing is that you don't have to buy all the support products which is actually where most of my costs of running Epistane came from. You don't have the health risks of more traditional PHs and you don't have to order any sketchy research chemicals to try and save 25% of whatever "gains" you made. I ran my 5aOHP into an AnaBeta/Erase stack and they worked great together. Great stuff!
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02-09-2012 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Aleksandar37
Thank you for finding that! One bottle of any of them may be enough for some, but it does seem like others are running more than one bottle. Plus you can stack 5aOHP with M1P or P-Bold too. There really are a lot of possibilities there. The price is sweet as well. These are not running much more than many PHs out there and the great thing is that you don't have to buy all the support products which is actually where most of my costs of running Epistane came from. You don't have the health risks of more traditional PHs and you don't have to order any sketchy research chemicals to try and save 25% of whatever "gains" you made. I ran my 5aOHP into an AnaBeta/Erase stack and they worked great together. Great stuff!
Agreed, thing I love about our ph's is that they are relatively side free and make an easy transition from ph to pct, making pct a breeze.
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02-09-2012 04:48 PM
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02-09-2012 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
prld2gr8ns
So now your beating to the punch huh,,haha...nice job bruv
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02-09-2012 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
Aleksandar37
Thank you for finding that! One bottle of any of them may be enough for some, but it does seem like others are running more than one bottle. Plus you can stack 5aOHP with M1P or P-Bold too. There really are a lot of possibilities there. The price is sweet as well. These are not running much more than many PHs out there and the great thing is that you don't have to buy all the support products which is actually where most of my costs of running Epistane came from. You don't have the health risks of more traditional PHs and you don't have to order any sketchy research chemicals to try and save 25% of whatever "gains" you made. I ran my 5aOHP into an AnaBeta/Erase stack and they worked great together. Great stuff!
Is this guy a rep for us..LOL...Thanks buddy!!!
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02-09-2012 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ
Is this guy a rep for us..LOL...Thanks buddy!!!
Lol. I just noticed that price when I was browsing to see if np carried sub res. Figured it belonged in here.
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02-09-2012 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
Aleksandar37
Thank you for finding that! One bottle of any of them may be enough for some, but it does seem like others are running more than one bottle. Plus you can stack 5aOHP with M1P or P-Bold too. There really are a lot of possibilities there. The price is sweet as well. These are not running much more than many PHs out there and the great thing is that you don't have to buy all the support products which is actually where most of my costs of running Epistane came from. You don't have the health risks of more traditional PHs and you don't have to order any sketchy research chemicals to try and save 25% of whatever "gains" you made. I ran my 5aOHP into an AnaBeta/Erase stack and they worked great together. Great stuff!
Too bad this stuff is hormonal lol. If it wasn't I'd run it between cycles to try. My cycle's are pretty damn intense....
I might actually pick up a few bottle though. I got some news today that will change my overall plans for my remaining time in Japan...
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02-09-2012 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
mattrag
Too bad this stuff is hormonal lol. If it wasn't I'd run it between cycles to try. My cycle's are pretty damn intense....
I might actually pick up a few bottle though. I got some news today that will change my overall plans for my remaining time in Japan...

Plans??? Good or Bad??
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02-09-2012 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
JoHNnyNuTZ
Plans??? Good or Bad??
Lets just say I will probably be able to be a lot more flexible with my diet. My wife is going to continue working 3 shifts a week. Which means I'll only get to see her on sundays. Sad, but it means my bodybuilding lifestyle will be on almost full time. (i.e. No breaks, and I can control everything I eat mostly). Also means I can use all the transdermals I want... haha. And any mood swings from hormones won't be as bad since we will mostly be talking via text/phone. It's a give and take situation I guess.
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02-09-2012 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
JoHNnyNuTZ
Plans??? Good or Bad??
Lets just say I will probably be able to be a lot more flexible with my diet. My wife is going to continue working 3 shifts a week. Which means I'll only get to see her on sundays. Sad, but it means my bodybuilding lifestyle will be on almost full time. (i.e. No breaks, and I can control everything I eat mostly). Also means I can use all the transdermals I want... haha. And any mood swings from hormones won't be as bad since we will mostly be talking via text/phone. It's a give and take situation I guess.
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02-09-2012 08:32 PM
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Thats cool and kinda stinks at the same time. But you get a chance to get swole and ripped..Thats always a fun time!!
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02-09-2012 10:45 PM
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Have you considered working one of them into your cycle? Depending on what you are using and the pathway, could make for a cool combo!
Originally Posted by
mattrag
Too bad this stuff is hormonal lol. If it wasn't I'd run it between cycles to try. My cycle's are pretty damn intense....
I might actually pick up a few bottle though. I got some news today that will change my overall plans for my remaining time in Japan...

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02-09-2012 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Aleksandar37
Have you considered working one of them into your cycle? Depending on what you are using and the pathway, could make for a cool combo!
Yea, because of it being a nonmethyl I could use it with somethign else. Though it won't make a base (DHT/DHEA) it will definitely add some mass gain potential. After I read up on it more and look at the conversions and target hormones I'll know for sure what i will do
But yea... I have considered it heheh.
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02-10-2012 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
mattrag
Lets just say I will probably be able to be a lot more flexible with my diet. My wife is going to continue working 3 shifts a week. Which means I'll only get to see her on sundays. Sad, but it means my bodybuilding lifestyle will be on almost full time. (i.e. No breaks, and I can control everything I eat mostly). Also means I can use all the transdermals I want... haha. And any mood swings from hormones won't be as bad since we will mostly be talking via text/phone. It's a give and take situation I guess.
Forget the mood swings from the hormones (on cycle), I'd be one big raging hormone from lack of sex!!! I get pretty temperamental with just the 5 days/ month lost due to nature!
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02-10-2012 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lukehayd
Forget the mood swings from the hormones (on cycle), I'd be one big raging hormone from lack of sex!!! I get pretty temperamental with just the 5 days/ month lost due to nature!
Dang.. This entire pct only see the wife on sunday. We don't even get to hit the sheets together... My libido is truly in the trash lol.
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02-10-2012 08:45 PM
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02-16-2012 04:27 PM
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What doses were these guys running?. I see on the description of the product to take up to 8 doses a day. If you took all 8 you will need two bottles for one 4 week cycle.
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02-16-2012 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
T-Bone
What doses were these guys running?. I see on the description of the product to take up to 8 doses a day. If you took all 8 you will need two bottles for one 4 week cycle.
Most were at recommended dose. Johnny is running 8 ml right now I think.
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02-16-2012 04:38 PM
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Yuppers 8ml a day!!! Feels pretty good so far. Got a whopping 4 weeks left, hopefully it really starts to shine the next few weeks!!