Help with Cortisol Control - Confused

[Whacked]

Can someone please shed some light on the various cort-control supplements. I imagine these all work via diffent pathways, etc, so can someone summarize effectiveness and suggestions on each. I'm pretty lost here. Thank you.

1) 11-OXO


2) Designersupps Lean Xtreme
a) 5-AT (7-Hydroxy17B-dihydrodehydroepiandrosterone)
b) 7-OH (7-Hydroxy-dihydroepiandrosterone


3) IBE X-Lean
a) 7-beta-hydroxy-DHEA
b) Androststenetriol


4)6-OXO


5) 3-AD


???

 

[Korben]

:gotsearch
AND
Use Vit C...

 

[MrBrightside]

I believe 3-ad is basically a pumped up version of 11-oxo; either way, both are PH's/steroids.

 

[bigpapa]

I believe 3-ad is basically a pumped up version of 11-oxo; either way, both are PH's/steroids.

right and will require a PCT after use. my recommendation is to go with lean xtreme. IMO it is the best cortisol blocker i've used. use that and 1000mg vitamin c before and after workout and ull be all set.

 

[Whacked]

I believe 3-ad is basically a pumped up version of 11-oxo; either way, both are PH's/steroids.

Is that correct? I must be missing something here. How is this considered an (anabolic) pro-steroid if its primary function of cortisol influence. So, you're suggesting that I treat these just like other typical PH's such as Epistane and the like??

Also, back to the original question, what exactly is the difference of all these different cortisol control supps?

 

[Chub]

right and will require a PCT after use. my recommendation is to go with lean xtreme. IMO it is the best cortisol blocker i've used. use that and 1000mg vitamin c before and after workout and ull be all set.

why VitC before and after workout while using lean extreme? I'm 4 days into my Lean extreme/activate extreme and while doing research i didn't see anything about taking that much vit C before and after workouts.

 

[bigpapa]

why VitC before and after workout while using lean extreme? I'm 4 days into my Lean extreme/activate extreme and while doing research i didn't see anything about taking that much vit C before and after workouts.

vitamin C is proven to keep cortisol under control and is especially effective before and after strenuous activity. it is not necessary to use while taking lean extreme but it adds a good 1-2 punch.

 

[Cordeen]

Relora

 

[AE14]

dont forget my favorite all purpose supp, which aids with cortisol. Cissus!!!!

 

[EasyEJL]

3-ad as it is sold today has no relationship to 11-oxo, and does not lower cortisol

 

[MrBrightside]

Jesus Christ, AX, stop deceiving us. Superdrol NG not being real SD, 3-AD changed...I hear next they're going to come out with bodyfat calipers that read testosterone levels.

 

[slow-mun]

Jesus Christ, AX, stop deceiving us. Superdrol NG not being real SD, 3-AD changed...I hear next they're going to come out with bodyfat calipers that read testosterone levels.

:think:Was this even necessary? One cannot blame AX for not being able to read labels.

 

[bkprice]

LOL, guess reading is not on the top of his research list.

 

[LG Sciences]

Ashwaghanda reduces systemic cortisol

CDCA in our old Transform and in LegalGear Dermasize reduces cortisol selective 11bHSD inhibitor

11-OXO is also a steroidal selective 11bHSD inhibitor

PS is also a reducer of systemic cortisol

You can combine one of all of these things to get an effective cortisol reduction, however it isn't something that is going to give you steroid like gains...

 

[JohnnieFreeze]

What about Ipriflavone? Ive read among other things that it was a great cort reducer. I cant say for sure if its panned out in the real world.

 

[MrBrightside]

:think:Was this even necessary? One cannot blame AX for not being able to read labels.

A lot of people don't know what they're doing. The difference is NG. Everyone shortens label names when talking about a product (i.e. Leviathan Reloaded= Levi/Levi-R), why wouldn't this be the case for Superdrol/Superdrol NG? If you don't think this is misleading, you're lying to yourself.

 

[polo]

dude u can use only vitamin c and glutamine they reduce cortisol no need to use a antiestrogen to block cortisol.

 

[Whacked]

Anyone else have any input here?

11-oxo verses LeanXtreme is what Im mainly concerned with.

 

[strategicmove]

These might help:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/83966-cortisol-between-11oxo.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/81612-retain2-vs-x.html

 

[Whacked]

WOW! As usual, spot on! Thanks

 

[EasyEJL]

i did have positive leaning effect from retain 2, and was happy when another member here was selling a bottle (since its discontinued)