Any Fat Burner better then ECA stack?
- 07-16-2008, 09:17 PM
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07-17-2008, 09:26 AM
Yohimbine doesn't do it for me, but I know people who've used it with good results.
I think that in terms of fat loss, E/C is the best. However, I am currently testing out a bottle of Adrenalean from Designer Supplements, and it is the closest I have found. Interestingly, it suppresses my appetite even MORE than E/C. It's among the least expensive as well.
07-17-2008, 10:31 AM
07-17-2008, 11:34 AM
07-17-2008, 12:33 PM
Meltdown by VPX. Nuff said. Others who've used it will concur. You feel great while on it, it increases pleasure slightly (which is an effect of the appetite control blend), and it works better over time (after 4 weeks).
E/C works at first because of the decreased appetite and therefore decreased food intake. It also works at first because of the cracked out cardio that many users experience. E/C's long term fat-burning occurs on a mitochondrial level by inducing cAMP through NE release... but people who stop feeling the 'BOOM! Wow this is legal??!" feeling, usually stop the E/C because they think it's stopped working.
Freedom means nothing here.
07-17-2008, 12:49 PM
07-17-2008, 01:30 PM
ECYA stack was doing me pretty well. I've been off it for a week because I have been abusing stims and had some CNS fry out last week and have been stim free for 1 week now.
I plan on jumping back on it in the next week or so.
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07-17-2008, 01:49 PM
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07-17-2008, 02:57 PM
I was going to get P-Sarm, then didn't because of stomach issues... but maybe I'll get some while I still see a BOGO and run it later.
Freedom means nothing here.
07-17-2008, 03:09 PM
so whats the best fat burner overall? and what is the ECA stack? i've heard taking ephedra in smaller amounts than have been used in the past are unlikely to harm and if thats true which is the best ephedra product to use?
07-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Go to lipex2 and check that out...Sounds like the best one for the money...the main ingredients are yohimbe caffeine forshholin and synephrine....It has 2-3 times the amounts of these per cap as any other
product on the market...This is as close as your going to get to the old eca stack.
07-17-2008, 03:14 PM
yes. i am using one right now and i think its def better than an ECA stack. with an ECA stack my blood pressure skyrocketed and i got nose bleeds and trouble sleeping. i bought a fat burner from a supplement store near me and they only sell it their because it is their private line. i can hook u up with it if u want. PM if u feel the need.
07-17-2008, 03:16 PM
i tried yohimbe and right now im using L-carnitine, hey big do you know the ingredients in the supp? whats pming? i dont use am.com all the time im still getting used to it
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07-17-2008, 03:31 PM
Carnitine is good but it has failed in the studies to reduce fat over the control groups all on its own...it does however have anabolic and other properties such as mental acuity and sperm motility. It is however required to transport fat across the cell wall so I do still recommend it. It is actually not an amino acid but infact a "b" vitamin...it is a form of B1 if I am not mistaken...
07-17-2008, 03:35 PM
Okay I'll admit, the lipex 2 profile looks interesting. It would probably do well. Papa the product you linked looks good too, although I'm not as firmiliar with the ingredients.
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