Any Fat Burner better then ECA stack?

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  1. Any Fat Burner better then ECA stack?


    Has anyone ever taken a fat burner that worked BETTER then the ECA stack?

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  2. ECA has the most desired results for most, however it is difficult to get the E in some areas
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  3. how does Yohimbine HCL compare?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    how does Yohimbine HCL compare?
    Yohimbine HCL seems to be a pretty harsh stimulant. It raises blood pressure in some users.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by aristo3369 View Post
    Yohimbine HCL seems to be a pretty harsh stimulant. It raises blood pressure in some users.
    true..but I was just curious as to strictly its fat burning capabilities for those robust individuals who can take with little worries.

  6. Yohimbine doesn't do it for me, but I know people who've used it with good results.

    I think that in terms of fat loss, E/C is the best. However, I am currently testing out a bottle of Adrenalean from Designer Supplements, and it is the closest I have found. Interestingly, it suppresses my appetite even MORE than E/C. It's among the least expensive as well.

  7. Does EC actually do anything to fat tissue or does it only act on appetite/metabolism?

  8. best fat burner? HIIT on a treadmill. It is included in your gym membership.

  9. Meltdown by VPX. Nuff said. Others who've used it will concur. You feel great while on it, it increases pleasure slightly (which is an effect of the appetite control blend), and it works better over time (after 4 weeks).

    E/C works at first because of the decreased appetite and therefore decreased food intake. It also works at first because of the cracked out cardio that many users experience. E/C's long term fat-burning occurs on a mitochondrial level by inducing cAMP through NE release... but people who stop feeling the 'BOOM! Wow this is legal??!" feeling, usually stop the E/C because they think it's stopped working.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  10. I am also a fan Levi Relaoded. I did 2 bottles back to back and had solid results
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  11. ECYA stack was doing me pretty well. I've been off it for a week because I have been abusing stims and had some CNS fry out last week and have been stim free for 1 week now.

    I plan on jumping back on it in the next week or so.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    true..but I was just curious as to strictly its fat burning capabilities for those robust individuals who can take with little worries.
    try adding a cap or 2 of psarm to your eca stack. it must have a healthy dose of yohimbine in it cause i have more energy when on it. eca/powerful/psarm is very good for pre cardio.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    try adding a cap or 2 of psarm to your eca stack. it must have a healthy dose of yohimbine in it cause i have more energy when on it. eca/powerful/psarm is very good for pre cardio.
    I like the way you think
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    I like the way you think
    i am a fan of psarm, i use it many different ways. i found it bogo and bought 8 bottles. i even used it on my last cycle of mmv2. great supp for cutting fat,imo.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    ECYA stack was doing me pretty well. I've been off it for a week because I have been abusing stims and had some CNS fry out last week and have been stim free for 1 week now.

    I plan on jumping back on it in the next week or so.
    my favorite as well

  16. I was going to get P-Sarm, then didn't because of stomach issues... but maybe I'll get some while I still see a BOGO and run it later.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  17. so whats the best fat burner overall? and what is the ECA stack? i've heard taking ephedra in smaller amounts than have been used in the past are unlikely to harm and if thats true which is the best ephedra product to use?

  18. Go to lipex2 and check that out...Sounds like the best one for the money...the main ingredients are yohimbe caffeine forshholin and synephrine....It has 2-3 times the amounts of these per cap as any other
    product on the market...This is as close as your going to get to the old eca stack.

  19. yes. i am using one right now and i think its def better than an ECA stack. with an ECA stack my blood pressure skyrocketed and i got nose bleeds and trouble sleeping. i bought a fat burner from a supplement store near me and they only sell it their because it is their private line. i can hook u up with it if u want. PM if u feel the need.

  20. i tried yohimbe and right now im using L-carnitine, hey big do you know the ingredients in the supp? whats pming? i dont use am.com all the time im still getting used to it

  21. Quote Originally Posted by shanet View Post
    i tried yohimbe and right now im using L-carnitine, hey big do you know the ingredients in the supp? whats pming? i dont use am.com all the time im still getting used to it
    that means send me a private message and we can talk about it.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    yes. i am using one right now and i think its def better than an ECA stack. with an ECA stack my blood pressure skyrocketed and i got nose bleeds and trouble sleeping. i bought a fat burner from a supplement store near me and they only sell it their because it is their private line. i can hook u up with it if u want. PM if u feel the need.
    The idea is not to crush the tabs and snort them :P

  23. Carnitine is good but it has failed in the studies to reduce fat over the control groups all on its own...it does however have anabolic and other properties such as mental acuity and sperm motility. It is however required to transport fat across the cell wall so I do still recommend it. It is actually not an amino acid but infact a "b" vitamin...it is a form of B1 if I am not mistaken...

  24. Okay I'll admit, the lipex 2 profile looks interesting. It would probably do well. Papa the product you linked looks good too, although I'm not as firmiliar with the ingredients.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    I was going to get P-Sarm, then didn't because of stomach issues... but maybe I'll get some while I still see a BOGO and run it later.
    try dosing 1 at a time to start out. very good deal for bogo. the yohimbine is high quality.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Boyders View Post
    The idea is not to crush the tabs and snort them :P
    dmmit i knew i was doing something wrong.

  27. Usnic Acid

  28. Lipodrene w/ephedra

  29. Quote Originally Posted by pata320 View Post
    Usnic Acid
    be careful with that stuff my friend.

  30. have yall ever heard of clenbuterol as a fat burner?

  31. Quote Originally Posted by shanet View Post
    have yall ever heard of clenbuterol as a fat burner?
    No, it's strictly asthma only. Not for use as a fat-burner. We never heard of that. Any of us.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  32. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    No, it's strictly asthma only. Not for use as a fat-burner. We never heard of that. Any of us.
    LMAO

  33. Quote Originally Posted by pata320 View Post
    Usnic Acid
    damn, i wouldnt mind scoring some of that..at about half the recommended dose to be safe.

  34. Quote Originally Posted by shanet View Post
    have yall ever heard of clenbuterol as a fat burner?
    Yeah you should use some! See if you can get your heart to stop/explode!

  35. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger1 View Post
    Yeah you should use some! See if you can get your heart to stop/explode!
    i would take clen over usnic acid any day.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i would take clen over usnic acid any day.
    So would I, but I'd also be willing to try usnic at a very low dose.

  37. i had a friend who used clen to help drop fat and he got some sick results from it. what is usnic acid?

  38. Quote Originally Posted by shanet View Post
    i had a friend who used clen to help drop fat and he got some sick results from it. what is usnic acid?
    why don't you just google it, see for yourself how dangerous it can be. amazing the fda banned ephedra and this stuff is available.
  

  
 

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