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Na-RALA 19 38.00%
Anabolic Pump 22 44.00%
Neither, both did nothing for me 3 6.00%
Both were about equal in positive effects 6 12.00%
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:55 PM   #1
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Anabolic Pump vs. Na-RALA

Which one gave you better results?
 



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Na-RLA works through Insulin-dependent pathways, whereas AP utilizes Insulin-reactive pathways - this differentiates the two, in terms of the selectivity of their glucose disposal. Plus, last time I checked, Na-RLA didn't mitigate AMPk, or downregulate PPAR Gamma mRNA expression.

Much different products, but I assume you wanted anecdotal feedback, so I'll let it slide.
 



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Old 07-15-2008, 05:23 PM   #3
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Na-RLA works through Insulin-dependent pathways, whereas AP utilizes Insulin-reactive pathways - this differentiates the two, in terms of the selectivity of their glucose disposal. Plus, last time I checked, Na-RLA didn't mitigate AMPk, or downregulate PPAR Gamma mRNA expression.

Much different products, but I assume you wanted anecdotal feedback, so I'll let it slide.
You know your crap Mullet, thanks for letting it slide

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Na-RLA works through Insulin-dependent pathways, whereas AP utilizes Insulin-reactive pathways - this differentiates the two, in terms of the selectivity of their glucose disposal. Plus, last time I checked, Na-RLA didn't mitigate AMPk, or downregulate PPAR Gamma mRNA expression.

Much different products, but I assume you wanted anecdotal feedback, so I'll let it slide.
Mullet what do you think about stacking the 2? I know what USP thread said but I want to know what Mullet thinks
 



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Mullet what do you think about stacking the 2? I know what USP thread said but I want to know what Mullet thinks
The only issue is Insulin release: Na-RLA and likewise supplements illicit such a response, whereas AP does not. This is advantageous in a body recomposing effect, insofar as upregulating catabolic response in adipose (producing energy for cellular reactions) and anabolic response in muscle tissue (providing mitochondria with cellular energy to repair tissue).

With that being said, one could use 'Insulin Potentiators' at times of low risk for adipose storage; in-and-around workout comes to mind. In all honesty, a Pre-WO mixture containing Anabolic Pump, Na-RLA, and P-Slin would be an utterly fantastic combination. This would give you both ATK (an Insulin dependent energy storage messenger) and AMPk (Insulin reactive energy expenditure messenger) regulation, which translates to vascularity and ridiculous bloodflow!
 



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The only issue is Insulin release: Na-RLA and likewise supplements illicit such a response, whereas AP does not. This is advantageous in a body recomposing effect, insofar as upregulating catabolic response in adipose (producing energy for cellular reactions) and anabolic response in muscle tissue (providing mitochondria with cellular energy to repair tissue).

With that being said, one could use 'Insulin Potentiators' at times of low risk for adipose storage; in-and-around workout comes to mind. In all honesty, a Pre-WO mixture containing Anabolic Pump, Na-RLA, and P-Slin would be an utterly fantastic combination. This would give you both ATK (an Insulin dependent energy storage messenger) and AMPk (Insulin reactive energy expenditure messenger) regulation, which translates to vascularity and ridiculous bloodflow!
How would you use all three pre-workout, whats the Mullet plan of attack for that one?
 



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How would you use all three pre-workout, whats the Mullet plan of attack for that one?
I would preemptively dose the Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, and use the Na-RLA immediately before the CHO meal. This essentially creates conditions favorable for glucose disposal (p38-MAPK/AMPk mitigated GLUT4 expression) preemptively before the meal, as well as increasing Insulin release after the meal once BG levels rise. In this manner, you're covered on both fronts, and the risk for adipose storage is low directly before exercise (anabolic processes such as the synthesis of plasma triglycerides and fatty acids, adipogenesis, protein transcription and so on, are halted during exercise, and catabolic processes such lipolysis are begun in order to provide fuel for cellular reactions. Coupled with AP's direct inhibition of fatty acid synthesis during the dosing period, and storage is unlikely)
 



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I feel as if I am being a giant windbag and hijacking your thread completely ozarka - definitely not my intention. Apologies bruv!

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I feel as if I am being a giant windbag and hijacking your thread completely ozarka - definitely not my intention. Apologies bruv!

Let the comparison continue unabated.
No worries Mullet, you're not hijacking. I'm happy to read your recommendations as it is
 



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I would preemptively dose the Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, and use the Na-RLA immediately before the CHO meal. This essentially creates conditions favorable for glucose disposal (p38-MAPK/AMPk mitigated GLUT4 expression) preemptively before the meal, as well as increasing Insulin release after the meal once BG levels rise. In this manner, you're covered on both fronts, and the risk for adipose storage is low directly before exercise (anabolic processes such as the synthesis of plasma triglycerides and fatty acids, adipogenesis, protein transcription and so on, are halted during exercise, and catabolic processes such lipolysis are begun in order to provide fuel for cellular reactions. Coupled with AP's direct inhibition of fatty acid synthesis during the dosing period, and storage is unlikely)

Sounds sick!!

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It's too bad I hardly take in any carbohydrates. I'd give this stuff a try.
 



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The only issue is Insulin release: Na-RLA and likewise supplements illicit such a response, whereas AP does not. This is advantageous in a body recomposing effect, insofar as upregulating catabolic response in adipose (producing energy for cellular reactions) and anabolic response in muscle tissue (providing mitochondria with cellular energy to repair tissue).

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dude i was gunna say that exact same thing lol

actually not even close,

i was gunna ask 1 how to rep u (or whatever) and 2 what you think of insulean K compared to Anabolic pump/ p-slin
 
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