Anabolic Pump vs. Na-RALA

Which worked better, as far as gains in LBM, and fat lost?

  • Na-RALA

    Votes: 23 38.3%

  • Anabolic Pump

    Votes: 25 41.7%

  • Neither, both did nothing for me

    Votes: 4 6.7%

  • Both were about equal in positive effects

    Votes: 8 13.3%
  • Total voters
    60
Na-RLA works through Insulin-dependent pathways, whereas AP utilizes Insulin-reactive pathways - this differentiates the two, in terms of the selectivity of their glucose disposal. Plus, last time I checked, Na-RLA didn't mitigate AMPk, or downregulate PPAR Gamma mRNA expression.

Much different products, but I assume you wanted anecdotal feedback, so I'll let it slide. ;)
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Na-RLA works through Insulin-dependent pathways, whereas AP utilizes Insulin-reactive pathways - this differentiates the two, in terms of the selectivity of their glucose disposal. Plus, last time I checked, Na-RLA didn't mitigate AMPk, or downregulate PPAR Gamma mRNA expression.

Much different products, but I assume you wanted anecdotal feedback, so I'll let it slide. ;)
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You know your crap Mullet, thanks for letting it slide ;)

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mulletsoldier again.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Na-RLA works through Insulin-dependent pathways, whereas AP utilizes Insulin-reactive pathways - this differentiates the two, in terms of the selectivity of their glucose disposal. Plus, last time I checked, Na-RLA didn't mitigate AMPk, or downregulate PPAR Gamma mRNA expression.

Much different products, but I assume you wanted anecdotal feedback, so I'll let it slide. ;)
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Mullet what do you think about stacking the 2? I know what USP thread said but I want to know what Mullet thinks
 
Distilled Water said:
Mullet what do you think about stacking the 2? I know what USP thread said but I want to know what Mullet thinks
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The only issue is Insulin release: Na-RLA and likewise supplements illicit such a response, whereas AP does not. This is advantageous in a body recomposing effect, insofar as upregulating catabolic response in adipose (producing energy for cellular reactions) and anabolic response in muscle tissue (providing mitochondria with cellular energy to repair tissue).

With that being said, one could use 'Insulin Potentiators' at times of low risk for adipose storage; in-and-around workout comes to mind. In all honesty, a Pre-WO mixture containing Anabolic Pump, Na-RLA, and P-Slin would be an utterly fantastic combination. This would give you both ATK (an Insulin dependent energy storage messenger) and AMPk (Insulin reactive energy expenditure messenger) regulation, which translates to vascularity and ridiculous bloodflow!
 
Mulletsoldier said:
The only issue is Insulin release: Na-RLA and likewise supplements illicit such a response, whereas AP does not. This is advantageous in a body recomposing effect, insofar as upregulating catabolic response in adipose (producing energy for cellular reactions) and anabolic response in muscle tissue (providing mitochondria with cellular energy to repair tissue).

With that being said, one could use 'Insulin Potentiators' at times of low risk for adipose storage; in-and-around workout comes to mind. In all honesty, a Pre-WO mixture containing Anabolic Pump, Na-RLA, and P-Slin would be an utterly fantastic combination. This would give you both ATK (an Insulin dependent energy storage messenger) and AMPk (Insulin reactive energy expenditure messenger) regulation, which translates to vascularity and ridiculous bloodflow!
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How would you use all three pre-workout, whats the Mullet plan of attack for that one?
 
pmiller383 said:
How would you use all three pre-workout, whats the Mullet plan of attack for that one?
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I would preemptively dose the Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, and use the Na-RLA immediately before the CHO meal. This essentially creates conditions favorable for glucose disposal (p38-MAPK/AMPk mitigated GLUT4 expression) preemptively before the meal, as well as increasing Insulin release after the meal once BG levels rise. In this manner, you're covered on both fronts, and the risk for adipose storage is low directly before exercise (anabolic processes such as the synthesis of plasma triglycerides and fatty acids, adipogenesis, protein transcription and so on, are halted during exercise, and catabolic processes such lipolysis are begun in order to provide fuel for cellular reactions. Coupled with AP's direct inhibition of fatty acid synthesis during the dosing period, and storage is unlikely)
 
I feel as if I am being a giant windbag and hijacking your thread completely ozarka - definitely not my intention. Apologies bruv!

Let the comparison continue unabated. :p
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I feel as if I am being a giant windbag and hijacking your thread completely ozarka - definitely not my intention. Apologies bruv!

Let the comparison continue unabated. :p
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No worries Mullet, you're not hijacking. I'm happy to read your recommendations as it is :thumbsup:
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I would preemptively dose the Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, and use the Na-RLA immediately before the CHO meal. This essentially creates conditions favorable for glucose disposal (p38-MAPK/AMPk mitigated GLUT4 expression) preemptively before the meal, as well as increasing Insulin release after the meal once BG levels rise. In this manner, you're covered on both fronts, and the risk for adipose storage is low directly before exercise (anabolic processes such as the synthesis of plasma triglycerides and fatty acids, adipogenesis, protein transcription and so on, are halted during exercise, and catabolic processes such lipolysis are begun in order to provide fuel for cellular reactions. Coupled with AP's direct inhibition of fatty acid synthesis during the dosing period, and storage is unlikely)
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Sounds sick!!

Who is going to try that stack?
 
Mulletsoldier said:
The only issue is Insulin release: Na-RLA and likewise supplements illicit such a response, whereas AP does not. This is advantageous in a body recomposing effect, insofar as upregulating catabolic response in adipose (producing energy for cellular reactions) and anabolic response in muscle tissue (providing mitochondria with cellular energy to repair tissue).

With that being said, one could use 'Insulin Potentiators' at times of low risk for adipose storage; in-and-around workout comes to mind. In all honesty, a Pre-WO mixture containing Anabolic Pump, Na-RLA, and P-Slin would be an utterly fantastic combination. This would give you both ATK (an Insulin dependent energy storage messenger) and AMPk (Insulin reactive energy expenditure messenger) regulation, which translates to vascularity and ridiculous bloodflow!
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dude i was gunna say that exact same thing lol

actually not even close,

i was gunna ask 1 how to rep u (or whatever) and 2 what you think of insulean K compared to Anabolic pump/ p-slin
 
crazyfool405 said:
dude i was gunna say that exact same thing lol

actually not even close,

i was gunna ask 1 how to rep u (or whatever) and 2 what you think of insulean K compared to Anabolic pump/ p-slin
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Reps are that strange little white thing to the left of your screen. In terms of Insulean, I have no idea what it is! ;)
 
I recently started using NA-RALA in place of AP for a few meals out of the day. I gotta say, I'm impressed thus far.
 
Yep. I like it a lot. I seem to get the best results from it when I dose it 30 minutes to 1 hour prior to eating.
 
Keep us informed. May be a great adjuvent to use alongside AP, or a compound to use after prolonged AP use, in order to sensitize once again.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Keep us informed. May be a great adjuvent to use alongside AP, or a compound to use after prolonged AP use, in order to sensitize once again.
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Will do. I've been switching back and forth, using both at different times of the day. Seems like a perfect way to help cut-down on the cost of AP while still getting the benefits.
 
On the 20th day of AP (this Monday), I started to experience the anabolic dumps... after every dosing.

Brutal... I am no longer on it.

Never tried the other.
 
papagunz said:
It certainly seems like not everyone responds to AP, but jujst about everybody responds to the pslin. I'd like to try it, samples would pwn...
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That very much seems to be the case! It would seem it invariably stems from 'response to Berberine' vs., 'response to Gymnae'.
 
crazyfool405 said:
definetly worth a look at by nutrabolics i think nutraplanet has it in stock....

i loved it, i stayed super lean on in it, back when i was 167 pounds lol
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u took insulean? did u loose any fat? or gain any strength?
 
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