What should I take for pre and postworkout
- 07-11-2008, 09:34 AM
What should I take for pre and postworkout
I want to know what should I consume for pre and post workout to obtain the best gain of my workout?
A lot of people says to me for pre-workout: and for post workout Ultimate Nutrition Iso Mass Xtreme . Is it good, or I should consume some other supplements?
- 07-11-2008, 09:38 AM
Creatine ( , )
NO product (Arginine, Ornithine, White FLOOD)
Intra Workout: (during)
BCAAs/EAAs ( or )
Protein (whey, isolates)
07-11-2008, 12:28 PM
Renegade Rows has covered all the bases, including the very under rated intra workout shake. Milos sarcev speaks about this in great detail in his diet and nutrition DVD from secrets of the pros. During regular times of the day we have 5 litres of blood circulating per minute, but during excercise that is increased to 15-25 litres per minute!, so drinking a shake rich in aminos during this time can be very beneficial to growth and recovery.
07-11-2008, 12:55 PM
Pre=BCAA's, Green Tea, 5 g Creatine
Intra= Shake( Shock Therapy NO, 5 g Creatine)
Post=ON Pro Complex Whey or Ultimate Nutrition's new Mass Extreme (for carbs), 5 g Creatine, BCAA's
07-11-2008, 01:34 PM
07-11-2008, 04:08 PM
i take the green tea before, i would do the shock therapy before but then wut do i drink in my intra? protein makes me feel bloated, so i just through in some shock therapy, and it gives me a lil charge mid-workout
07-11-2008, 06:53 PM
07-11-2008, 06:58 PM
yah renegade knows what he's talking about. The Purple Wraath is a must, pretty cheap too. But I have one question, I'm not too informed about glycergrow, what is it and what's the benefits. Thanks
07-11-2008, 07:01 PM
GlycerGROW™ FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
GlycerGrow combines a proprietary and synergistic blend of pharmaceutical grade ingredients to increase cell volume, aid the osmotic effects of creatine, and enhance the natural anabolic responses of weightlifting. When combined with a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a solid workout protocol, this product helps give the user increased gains in size, strength and vascularity.
07-11-2008, 08:12 PM
Depends on what kinda workout... For aerobics and athletic events, I'd take Cordygen V02. You can take it before intense resistance training as well. VPX NO-Shotgun/NO-Synth is amazing stuff for pre/during/post workout.
Freedom means nothing here.
07-12-2008, 01:14 AM
If you want something extra, take P-Slin 15 minutes before your pre-workout meal and you will experience great energy and insane pumps. Search AM and you will see that many people like this.
07-12-2008, 03:23 PM
Arginine should not be taken pre w/o as it drops GH induced by exercise by 300%,IIRC.Fitnecise posted several abstracts indicating this recently.
Arginine,A-AGK etc should only be taken upon waking and before bed.
Pre w/o EAA's or whey protien would be good.I'd take at least 20 g whey isolate posyt w/o and eat a solid meal ASAP.
Post w/o I would go with the Size,I gots to pimp Avant Research product and it's a damn good choice regardless.I'd also dose it upon waking with breakfast and with your last meal of the day to maximize the anabolic effect of food.
I'm also fond of Body Octane at pre w/o and another dose spaced evenly throughout the day.
07-12-2008, 07:19 PM
07-12-2008, 07:26 PM
I've read it's useful before bed to aid in the elevation of growth hormone release, hence why some include it in their ingredients list in before bed supps. Personally, I have no complaints when I've taken products that contain it before bed. As for the other matter, definitely gonna have to look into it. Thanks!!
07-12-2008, 08:14 PM
07-13-2008, 12:55 PM
Yeah Colin is spot on! Research shows that Arginine might not be that optimal to take PWO.
Though if I haven't totally forgotten the research it showed that:
(the numbers I don't remember, just using them as examples so the numbers really have no actual importance)
Arginine not in conjunction with working out= raise GH 3x
Working out =raise GH 4x
Arginine+working out= raise GH 2x (so lower than just working out but still raising)
Though sorry for not remembering, I might be TOTALLY OFF, so if I am I say sorry already...And hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong...
Edit: Found some abstract re. arginine and GH:
The subject ingested a dose of arginine (5, 9 or 13 g) or placebo (randomly assigned).
Mean resting GH values for the placebo, 5, 9 and 13 g day were 0.76, 0.67, 2.0 and 0.79 microg/L (n=6), respectively. Integrated area under the curve was not different with 13 g (197.8+/-65.7 min microg/L), yet it increased with 5 and 9 g compared with the placebo (301.5+/-74.6, 524.28+/-82.9 and 186.04+/-47.8 min microg/L, respectively, P<0.05). Mean peak GH levels were 2.9+/-0.69, 3.9+/-0.85, 6.4+/-1.3 and 4.73+/-1.27 microg/L on each day for the placebo, 5, 9 and 13 g days.
In conclusion, 5 and 9 g of oral arginine caused a significant GH response. A 13 g dose of arginine resulted in considerable gastrointestinal distress in most subjects without augmentation in the GH response. The rise in GH concentration started approximately 30 min after ingestion and peaked approximately 60 min post ingestion.
07-13-2008, 02:15 PM
07-14-2008, 03:34 PM
07-14-2008, 07:24 PM
Unless I'm really killing myself, I usually don't take protein before a workout, other than a pre-workout meal, and sometimes, if I'm doing some intra stuff, I don't take anything after a workout either, aside from a post-workout meal,all depends on what my goals are for that period. Feel free to try stuff, that's how you find out what works.
07-15-2008, 07:21 AM
Always want to stack GlycerGROW with creatine, as it enhances the effects. I recommend Green MAG Green apple flavor, tastes great and works synergistically with White FLOOD & GG. Good luck bro!
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