Supps for Teen help

[torres278]

ok so ive been lifting for 3 years
im 6'0" and weigh 200

right now all i take is whey protein and eat 6 meals a day and im gettin results but im just lookin for a supplement to give a pump or and edge on bodybuilding...
ive been lookin at p-slin i think its called and some other Nitric oxide products.....thanks again

btw ive tried SuperPump250 and it didnt work for me it gave me super dumps...

 

[theBIGcactus]

look up Mass fx ultimate mass cycle (mass fx/hyperdrol/retain(lean extreme) I am 20 yr old and I gained 15 pounds in 8 weeks on it, but you should go on it for atleast 8 weeks, you can go on it for up to 12 weeks, just research it see if you want to try it.

 

[futurepilot]

ok so ive been lifting for 3 years
im 6'0" and weigh 200

right now all i take is whey protein and eat 6 meals a day and im gettin results but im just lookin for a supplement to give a pump or and edge on bodybuilding...
ive been lookin at p-slin i think its called and some other Nitric oxide products.....thanks again

btw ive tried SuperPump250 and it didnt work for me it gave me super dumps...

How old are you?

What weight did you start at?

Whats your diet like? How much protein/carbs/fat from what kinds of food?

Whats your training regiment?

If you dont have food and training locked in,
no supp in the world will be worth purchasing.

 

[poison]

uh, creatine. duh. That's a no-brainer. I highly recommend MAN Clout, if you can stand the nasty taste, or Ragnarok, if you are a wuss.

Try either one for two months, and report back.

 

[RedwolfWV]

I agree with creatine. Its the only supp I let my boy use. He's 15, 6'3" and 235 pounds. Its safe, effective, and cheap. Good 'ol creatine monohydrate.

 

[jdev]

Creatine and any other amino acids/amino acid derivatives or combinations.
I personally don't like the effect of NO products. The best is probably NOS Ether or Ragnarok (Havent tried either but hear they are good). Youll also want to look into Xtend, a BCAA supplement. It increases endurance and prevents catabolism during workouts

If youre not 18 or almost (within a month or 2) 18 don't take anything that in any way affects hormones, such as the MFX stack mentioned above.

About which creatine, the plan that worked best for me was to take CreaPure (or any cheap Creatine Monohydrate) with a glass of juice (apple or grape is best for this purpose), and then to have some more juice a half hour later

 

[wrasslin116]

More food/Creatine/BCAA's/Glutamine

 

[torres278]

How old are you?

What weight did you start at?

Whats your diet like? How much protein/carbs/fat from what kinds of food?

Whats your training regiment?

If you dont have food and training locked in,
no supp in the world will be worth purchasing.

i started at 145 lbs
i eat 40g of protein per meal...
i have a good regiment...
im gettin results but not as good as when i started u kno?

 

[TexasLifter89]

brotha whats up!! im a fellow teen as well. let me tell you dude hormonal stuff eh. All you need is some goods:

Creatine
Ragnarok
Size ON
Neovar
Neovar Recomped
Green Mag

Amino Acids (BCAA/ EAA)
Intrabolic
Purple wrath

Protein
any will do

 

[DreamWeaver]

I've built monsters on nothing but good nutrition. Protein powder will help you get the protein content of your diet up and anything that is a derivitive of food, amino's etc.. but they are not necessary really. Supps are more of a waste of money for teens I find as the growth potential is astronmical. If your not making extreme gains sans supplementation then your doing something wrong, I guarantee it.

Damn my son gained 50 lbs his first year of lifting and he didn't even use protein powder. It wasn't all lean mass but you get the picture.

 

[TexasLifter89]

you say your workout regiment i strong...but what is it? and your whole diet macro wise, not just protein would help you get alot better response. more detail on your desciription will give you a more detailed answer from others.

 

[Davis555]

Eat alot. Don't touch any P.H. untill your 21 at least and forget about Roids cuz someone you know around your age I bet is takin them. Just go nautrally!

BCAA: If you don't shop online or always go to cursed GNC then get a 20$ bottle of Twinlab BCAA"s. Or any of the above mentioned.
Protein: Get two different kinds Whey and Casien! Casien at night before you sleep and Whey after and before your workouts.(To fully strech you dollar take only after workouts!)
Glutamine: Dump this in Juice and gatoraid for recov. and immunity support!

Eat alot!!!!!!!! and push yourself!!! Before long you will put on size the old timers have to use special supp. to get!

 

[futurepilot]

i started at 145 lbs
i eat 40g of protein per meal...
i have a good regiment...
im gettin results but not as good as when i started u kno?

Phew..i was waiting for you to have started at 190 or something.

50+ lbs in 3 yrs is a great amount of weight, if it's LBM.

You might consider a different diet/training schedule. If you've been doing similar exercises, eating similar food for the past 3 yrs something as simple as eating differently, or doing different exercises might be your solution.

It would be to your benefit to type up at least a rough layout of your diet and training split.

 

[torres278]

you say your workout regiment i strong...but what is it? and your whole diet macro wise, not just protein would help you get alot better response. more detail on your desciription will give you a more detailed answer from others.

monday-chest Flat Bench, inclinde DB and Flys
tuesday-back Lat Pull Downs, dumbell rows, then cable rows
wednesday-legs Squats, Lunges, Extensions, Leg Curls
thursday-bis n tris DB Curls, Reverse Preacher, Cable Curls
Close grip bench, french curls, and cable arm type extensions
friday-shoulders DB Military, shoulder raises, upright rows, shrugs

abs 3 times a week.


i mostly lift heavey.....6-8 reps

 

[B5150]

I agree with creatine. Its the only supp I let my boy use. He's 15, 6'3" and 235 pounds. Its safe, effective, and cheap. Good 'ol creatine monohydrate.

Just a thought - Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps (100 caps/300 mg) By: NutraPlanet is very synergistic with creatine. Additionally it is a good anti-oxidant as well as a glucose disposal agent. Very cheap too.

Effect of alpha-lipoic acid combined with creatine...[Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2003] - PubMed Result

 

[B5150]

ok so ive been lifting for 3 years
im 6'0" and weigh 200

right now all i take is whey protein and eat 6 meals a day and im gettin results but im just lookin for a supplement to give a pump or and edge on bodybuilding...
ive been lookin at p-slin i think its called and some other Nitric oxide products.....thanks again

btw ive tried SuperPump250 and it didnt work for me it gave me super dumps...

Be careful...supplement junkies are everywhere.

Just a suggestion:

Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps (100 caps/300 mg) By: NutraPlanet
Creatine Monohydrate (1 kilo) By: NutraPlanet
KWICK KARBâ„¢ (Waxy Maize Starch) (VALUE SIZE 3.3 lb) By: NutraPlanet

 

[TexasLifter89]

My suggestion

try your workout like this:
Find whatever rep rang you are looking for. Personally i enjoy a high rep range of 15+ reps per set. Do about 3+ sets per lift.

day1 chest & Tricep
Pec Deck Flyes
incline DB
Flat Bench
Decline Bench
Smith Inclines Widest grip possible

Standing Tricep Pushdowns
Supperseted with
Incline tricep Push downs
Skull Crushers
Close Grip or Reverse Flat Bench

day2-back & Bicep
Lat Pull Downs
BB Bench Rows
cable rows
T-Bar Rows

BB Curl
Super setted
DB Concentration curls (6 seconds up, 3 second hold, 6 seconds down)
Reverse BB Curl

Day 3- OFF
Rest day

Day4-legs
Leg Press
Squats
Leg Extensions,
Lying Hamstring Curls
Standing Ham Curls
BB Stiff leg Deadlift

Standing Calf Raises
Sitting Calf Raises


day5-shoulders
DB Military
shoulder raises
upright rows
shrugs

Day6-OFF
Cardio

 

[DreamWeaver]

try your workout like this:
Find whatever rep rang you are looking for. Personally i enjoy a high rep range of 15+ reps per set. Do about 3+ sets per lift.

day1 chest & Tricep
Pec Deck Flyes
incline DB
Flat Bench
Decline Bench
Smith Inclines Widest grip possible

Standing Tricep Pushdowns
Supperseted with
Incline tricep Push downs
Skull Crushers
Close Grip or Reverse Flat Bench

day2-back & Bicep
Lat Pull Downs
BB Bench Rows
cable rows
T-Bar Rows

BB Curl
Super setted
DB Concentration curls (6 seconds up, 3 second hold, 6 seconds down)
Reverse BB Curl

Day 3- OFF
Rest day

Day4-legs
Leg Press
Squats
Leg Extensions,
Lying Hamstring Curls
Standing Ham Curls
BB Stiff leg Deadlift

Standing Calf Raises
Sitting Calf Raises


day5-shoulders
DB Military
shoulder raises
upright rows
shrugs

Day6-OFF
Cardio

Damn thats a lot of sets per body part on some body parts.

 

[TexasLifter89]

its similiar to the workout i run. im in love with my results thus far

 

[jdev]

Hey tex what result are you seeing? Also, you ever tried DC?

 

[TexasLifter89]

well my strength has gone up very nicely since i started using it. Im not sure what my new 1RM is but now im using 155x15 for 3 sets fairly easy compared to 2 weeks ago at 135x15 for 3 sets on bench. im up about 5 LBS bodyweight wise as well. whats DC?...never heard it

 

[RedwolfWV]

Just a thought - Alpha Lipoic Acid Caps (100 caps/300 mg) By: NutraPlanet is very synergistic with creatine. Additionally it is a good anti-oxidant as well as a glucose disposal agent. Very cheap too.

Effect of alpha-lipoic acid combined with creatine...[Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2003] - PubMed Result

Thanks for the heads up on that B! I'll pick some up from Nutraplanet next order.

 

[jdev]

Otherwise known as doggcrapp.
http://dc-training.blogspot.com/
Out of all the training programs ive read and tried, it was definitely the best, most interesting, and highly based in science. Others ive tried were GVT as outlined by Poliquin, and Rippetoe.

5LBS in 2 weeks? and up 20lbs on bench for 15? damn thats good. I guess if you can keep intensity for that many reps, it pays off.
But generally, thats a pretty high rep range. are you basing your program off any existing one, or did you come up w/ this through experimenting? Also, how long is your rest between sets and exercises?

 

[TexasLifter89]

2 minute rest at MAX and nope didnt base it off any other program. I did my own research for the highest rated lifts for certain parts to help build mass. then simply picked out 3-5 excercises per part that i like and based it at a 12-20 rep range where i saw appropriate. I have tweaked it since first starting with supersets in certain areas and other adjustment but im lovin it thus far

 

[jdev]

Definitely read the DC stuff, its pretty interesting. You can probably adapt some of its principles to your current plan.