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Old 06-16-2008, 11:34 AM   #1
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Would the DCP/Leviathan Reloaded stack be right for me?

Hello guys.

I am 6'0, 192 and about 10% bodyfat. I want to cut a bit more bodyfat and I have hit a little wall. My diet is very very clean and I hope to do some fitness modeling in the future.

Ill try to take some pictures when I get my camera back (I let my sister borrow it and she is 2 hours away).

Current stack is simple because I don't like to go overboard with addons:
Multi
Fish Oil
Whey (with BCAAs)

I am currently off Creatine cycle, been off for about 2 weeks, will probably go back on in about 2 weeks (Going from Higher Power CEE to Size-On).

I have pretty good knowledge of fitness and nutrition because I have worked in a fitness center for the past 3.5 years, but I am just now hearing about this stack and its good result.

Here is my question, my goal is to cut a little bit of body fat (maybe from 10 to 8), gain more midsection definition (my abs show, but I want them deep), and I want to lose as minimal amount of mass as possible (I am 192 now, I would love to be 192 at 8% BF).

Mass loss is really my main concern. I could cut the BF, but I won't sacrifice my size for its sake. Do you guys think this DCP/Leviathan Reloaded stack would be right for me or do recommend something else?
 
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:49 AM   #2
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I would say it's tailor made for your situation. The only thing I would say is that your already pretty low, if you want to go lower that's your choice. It depends on body type but I have a hard time maintaining 10 or lower. I don't like to give up too much efficiancy in the gym to be leaner. If your more of an ecto type your probably ok though.
 



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^ I'll second that. Might also want to look into Napalm.
 



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Old 06-16-2008, 12:29 PM   #4
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Good to hear guys, good to hear.

So you guys don't think there is as much size sacrifice as say, the EC stack?

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Yah much better stack for maintaining mass. Recreate I like also.
 



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Yah much better stack for maintaining mass. Recreate I like also.
Recreate instead of Leviathan? Anything you like better about it specifically, or do you just like both of them? I read a bit about Recreate, I will read up more on it.
 
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I noticed no size degradation with the DCP/LRR stack at all, EC stack is much worse.

If you have not bought the new creatine yet, maybe you could try Neovar which will help with the macro partitioning.
 
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Recreate instead of Leviathan? Anything you like better about it specifically, or do you just like both of them? I read a bit about Recreate, I will read up more on it.
I like them both, Recreate has been very good for me though. I have actually lost fat without losing weight. It's almost freaky. I am on close to maintenance when it comes to calorie intake so fat loss is fairly slow but undeniable, the scales don't change.

Keep in mind that I am using Drive and IGF2 as well, but even when I wasn't I had not lost much on the scales.
 



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I noticed no size degradation with the DCP/LRR stack at all, EC stack is much worse.

If you have not bought the new creatine yet, maybe you could try Neovar which will help with the macro partitioning.
I already have the SizeOn, but I will def. keep that in mind for my next creatine cycle. I have heard lots of good things about Neovar, I was waiting on one of my buddies to try it. Thanks alot for the advice.
 
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I like them both, Recreate has been very good for me though. I have actually lost fat without losing weight. It's almost freaky. I am on close to maintenance when it comes to calorie intake so fat loss is fairly slow but undeniable, the scales don't change.

Keep in mind that I am using Drive and IGF2 as well, but even when I wasn't I had not lost much on the scales.
This is exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks a ton.
 
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Hello guys.

I am 6'0, 192 and about 10% bodyfat. I want to cut a bit more bodyfat and I have hit a little wall. My diet is very very clean and I hope to do some fitness modeling in the future.

Ill try to take some pictures when I get my camera back (I let my sister borrow it and she is 2 hours away).

Current stack is simple because I don't like to go overboard with addons:
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I am currently off Creatine cycle, been off for about 2 weeks, will probably go back on in about 2 weeks (Going from Higher Power CEE to Size-On).

I have pretty good knowledge of fitness and nutrition because I have worked in a fitness center for the past 3.5 years, but I am just now hearing about this stack and its good result.

Here is my question, my goal is to cut a little bit of body fat (maybe from 10 to 8), gain more midsection definition (my abs show, but I want them deep), and I want to lose as minimal amount of mass as possible (I am 192 now, I would love to be 192 at 8% BF).

Mass loss is really my main concern. I could cut the BF, but I won't sacrifice my size for its sake. Do you guys think this DCP/Leviathan Reloaded stack would be right for me or do recommend something else?
I agree with the other responses. This stack should really help you knock a few more digits off of your bodyfat.

Have you thought about how you're going to set it up yet? If you need any help with the DCP i'd be glad to help you out.
 



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Old 06-16-2008, 10:00 PM   #12
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I agree with the other responses. This stack should really help you knock a few more digits off of your bodyfat.

Have you thought about how you're going to set it up yet? If you need any help with the DCP i'd be glad to help you out.
No sir, I haven't. What do you recommend?
 
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No sir, I haven't. What do you recommend?
I would start out with the recommened dosing of 2 capsules, 3x daily approximately 30 minutes before meals.

The dosing can be adjusted after a few weeks for a more pronounced effect. I dose the following in my current cut:

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-2 caps(9am)
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The 3 capsule dose is approx 40 minutes before my workout. This bigger dose pre-workout can give you some really impressive endurance effects due to more oxidized fatty acid energy.

We've recently started recommending the single DCP capsule prior to retiring at night. I can speak from my own personal experience that it has noted very impressive effects adding it in this way.

If you have any questions along the way, feel free to ask away. I'm not sure if you're into topical fat burners, but Avant Research's "Napalm" is phenominal. I've carved out some nice little details by throwing that into my stack.

You can check out my log also in the supplement log/review section.
 



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Awesome man! Thanks for the advice. I will check out your log. Ive still got alot of reading to do, so I will not be starting this stack for a couple of weeks. I will read up on Napalm as well.

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