Havoc Before and After Pics
- 06-22-2008, 05:55 PM
- 06-22-2008, 07:04 PM
Man this thread just went silly. Like I said earlier I think you could've seen those results in the same time frame without the steroids, with that said I'm not about to give you a hard time for going down that route as long as you followed PCT and I'm not so sure anyone else should either.
I'm not so sure about you being a runner though...I mean you look really soft in that first picture, not what my experience of regular runners has been at all, especially ones that also do weights. Maybe your diet is too anti-carb or something? idk.
06-23-2008, 08:33 AM
06-23-2008, 08:37 AM
06-23-2008, 11:12 AM
Why would you promote someone obviously inexpirenced to take steriods?
This is just nuts to me... You want to preach a feel good sermon to someone who uses steriods way to soon, and could have had those same results natural?
Listen up, there can be serious side effects to using any prohormone pro-steriod. Try actually considering peoples health before playing "the buddy role" cause it feels nice.
Aren't these forums for promoting healthy educated ways of using substances anyway?
06-23-2008, 11:13 AM
A complete novice lifter has no business taking steroids.
Teach and Learn are motto's of this board. The critical criticism of OD is justified. Some are trying to teach OD that using steroids without any foundation or reaching your body's natural limits is dangerous. Hopefully, OD will learn that using steroids is OK, but should only be utilized later in a lifting career. Using steroids when you are just starting to work out will lead only to trouble.
jealous? Are you 14?
06-23-2008, 11:26 AM
06-23-2008, 11:52 AM
Even then I think a person should have a good reason to use something. For me when I reached 45 I found that the amount of effort I was putting in no longer returned the same results so I did a couple of cycles of 1Test/4ad transdermal. A couple years later after a long hiatus I found that it was even harder to make progress so I did a couple Halodrol cycles. This year I did a Furazadrol cycle to help me burn some fat. I don't plan on doing any more as it just isn't worth it when there are so many good herbal products. I don't know if my use was justified but I caved and used for those reasons. All I can say is if your going to use something make sure you think about your reasons for doing so. Why young people feel they have to use... well it's a bit of a mystery to me, just try and be more patient.
Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
06-23-2008, 05:27 PM
Keep Posting.. Great results. Let the haters hate. Gonna do a cycle of Spawn (havoc/epistane + Extreme Tren) once I get a hold of a proper PCT.
Can you be a little more detailed with your log? Weight Gain, Strength gain, etc.
06-23-2008, 05:36 PM
06-23-2008, 06:39 PM
Just curious OP, in your after picture your skins completely red, did you get sunburned or get bad problems with high blood pressure?
This worries me as in the Epistane testimonials on NP guy mentioned being Irish and his skin turning from white to red while working out, he says this as if its a good thing, but typically that is not the case.
I didnt think it would give gypertension issues as its a dry compound, but with these new designer PH's its better safe than sorry.
Im asking as Im considering a havoc cycle in the near future.
06-23-2008, 07:24 PM
06-23-2008, 07:29 PM
06-23-2008, 09:35 PM
06-23-2008, 09:38 PM
blood pressure was fine.. however i only check it 1 a week. as for the redness. I was in the sun all day the day the pic was taken.
as for it being dry... I drank water and still felt thirsty quite often... I never felt any bloat like when you take creatine. Just a very Hard Pump all the DAM TIME>>> It is great.
06-23-2008, 10:44 PM
this thread has had a bit of everything going on, knocks, praise, rants and even abuse, gotta love A.M
06-23-2008, 10:49 PM
Yeah - This thread has certainly become erratic at best lol!
Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
06-23-2008, 10:55 PM
06-23-2008, 10:58 PM
06-23-2008, 11:03 PM
06-23-2008, 11:18 PM
in saying that though he did ok in the gains dept considering the short time he was on epi, but as they say - "it's not what happens when you're on that counts, it what happens once you're off that is the true indicator to the gains you make."
06-23-2008, 11:37 PM
Can anyone else attest to the fact one gets red when pumped?
(Im not saying that people getting a pump doesnt turn them red, just that in 6yrs of lifting I'd never seen much of a corelation between the two excpet when on PH's that had me pumped but also had my bp through the roof, seems like when Im on Ether and other supps I'll get a huge pump but no noticable redness nor any raise in bp, but again without pics I doubt Id notice much)
06-23-2008, 11:40 PM
06-24-2008, 12:02 AM
The look and feeling a bodybuilder experiences when his/her muscles engorge with blood as the result of intense exercise.
Therefore with blood being the colour red and if the skin is white with low BF levels, just maybe - one might turn a slight shade of red when pumped.
also the OP said that he was in the sun that day, it's pretty clear by looking at the after pic that he was exposed to UV light.
06-24-2008, 12:07 AM
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