Dsade, you seem to know your stuff. I am wondering about CLT's origins. Was it found in nature, or is it a modified nutrient, similar to AAKG?
Ok so I will make some pills at custom capsule, any ideas on how much I should take each day?
I'd say about 3 grams
Whats the difference between l-carnitine l-tartrate and Acetyl-L-Carnitine?
I'm loving my carnitine stack as far as recovery and mass gains. I haven't tested my endurance yet, so no idea if it helps there.
My current stack is
5:00am- 500mg gplc, 300mg plcar, 1gm lclt
2:30pm- 4.5g gplc
4:00pm- 1 gm lclt
9:30pm- 1g lclt
supps i use. RPN bulk LCLT, RPN DCP, Genomyx Protocol, Primordial Performance bulk GPLC, and Life xtension Peak ATP+GlycoCarn.
The LF Ext Peak ATP+ GPLC I bought a long time ago and would buy again because of price.
I also have plans of using Gaspari's Anavite when nutraplanet gets it in because each dose has a full serving of LCLT and BA in it. I'll also be using Primordial's ArginoCarn and RPN bulk PLCAR when i run out of the LF Ext stuff.
Whats the difference between l-carnitine l-tartrate and Acetyl-L-Carnitine? Anyone?
one is acetylated... j/k
here's some stuff for LCLT i skimmed thru on google scholar. it's easy to find studies done on both. Hope this helped.
Ten healthy, recreationally weight-trained men (mean +/- SD age 23.7 +/- 2.3 years, weight 78.7 +/- 8.5 kg, and height 179.2 +/- 4.6 cm) volunteered and were matched, and after 3 weeks of supplementation (2 g LCLT per day), fasting morning blood samples were obtained on six consecutive days (D1-D6). Subjects performed a squat protocol (5 sets of 15-20 repetitions) on D2. During the squat protocol, blood samples were obtained before exercise and 0, 15, 30, 120, and 180 minutes postexercise. After a 1-week washout period, subjects consumed the other supplement for a 3-week period, and the same experimental protocol was repeated using the exact same procedures. Expected exercise-induced increases in all of the hormones were observed for GHir, GHif, IGFBP-3, and T. Over the recovery period, LCLT reduced the amount of exercise-induced muscle tissue damage, which was assessed via magnetic resonance imaging scans of the thigh. LCLT supplementation significantly (p < 0.05) increased IGFBP-3 concentrations prior to and at 30, 120, and 180 minutes after acute exercise. No other direct effects of LCLT supplementation were observed on the absolute concentrations of the hormones examined, but with more undamaged tissue, a greater number of intact receptors would be available for hormonal interactions. These data support the use of LCLT as a recovery supplement for hypoxic exercise and lend further insights into the hormonal mechanisms that may help to mediate quicker recovery.
(C) 2003 National Strength and Conditioning Association
Conclusion: In summary, these data demonstrated that: 1) feeding after RE increased AR content, which may result in increased testosterone uptake, and thus enhanced luteinizing hormone secretion via feedback mechanisms; and 2) LCLT supplementation upregulated AR content, which may promote recovery from RE.
when taking your ALA w/ carnitines .. can you just buy reg ALA or does it have to be the ultra-bio available Na-R-ALA.. cuz that's hard to find by itself. I take Glycobol which has Na-R-ALA in it, but not always simultaneous with my ALCAR. It is usually like an hour before my workout with carbs and then ALCAR Pre-WO...