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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    If youre going to be serious about your diet Ill send you a bottle of Adrenalean for free. Try it out and let me know how it worked towards the 7lbs of fatloss. PM me your addy if you are interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    A lot depends on how much time she has left, a cheat day is sometimes a bad idea, if you don't have time to kick start your metabolism then it could have adverse effect (it would on me anyway) fortunately I have never had to resort to this. If your body goes into starvation mode then that means you have made a mistake earlier in your diet and yes you have to kick start your metabolism again, but it takes time. Can't say I am and expert in this department as I never ran into this problem. I guess I'm lucky, and I really never went that low calorie wise. One trick I learned is the consumption of massive amounts of fibrous carbs like brocolli, cauliflower, green beans etc.. this keeps the caloric level higher and still allows you to lose weight.
    (I wish there was a multiquote button.) You are right that sometimes if you are too close it might not be wise to cheat, thats when you would increase or start the use of T3. But carb feeding timed around the workout has been shown to not disrupt or negatively impact fatloss.

    3 days of over eating carbs 9300-400gms) will reset the thyroid and put you back into fat burning mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    3 days of over eating carbs (300-400gms) will reset the thyroid and put you back into fat burning mode.
    really? it never crossed my mind that way, but 300g would be relatively easy to sandwich pre/post workout for 150 each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    really? it never crossed my mind that way, but 300g would be relatively easy to sandwich pre/post workout for 150 each.
    besides with neovar you need a lot of carbs anyways. nice way to fit them in.
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    adrenalean is a very under-rated supp,imo. i ran a log on it for ds awhile back-great focus/appetite suppression. perfect for someone who works in an office, or sedentary job. very alert and focused, and kind of mellow at the same time.
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    You could get 50 preworkout, 25 during and 75 post. Then add in regular meals. You dont need it everyday (that amount) but as long as you werent close to getting on stage it wouldnt hurt fatloss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I had a bunch of fat I didn't want...I ended up having to file for divorce to get rid of it.

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    currently I barely see 75g of carbs in a day, so any amount over that would be novel. i'd probably still have to rely on supercarb + WMS for a bit of it, just to avoid bloating. i'm not stalled yet, but I may try that when I do stall out
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    Good to see you around DS!

    I almost tried your adrenalean for my current cut. Looks very promising brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    currently I barely see 75g of carbs in a day, so any amount over that would be novel. i'd probably still have to rely on supercarb + WMS for a bit of it, just to avoid bloating. i'm not stalled yet, but I may try that when I do stall out
    You could use WMS, I would just time it for postworkout with 50gms of whey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Good to see you around DS!

    I almost tried your adrenalean for my current cut. Looks very promising brother.
    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    (I wish there was a multiquote button.) You are right that sometimes if you are too close it might not be wise to cheat, thats when you would increase or start the use of T3. But carb feeding timed around the workout has been shown to not disrupt or negatively impact fatloss.

    3 days of over eating carbs 9300-400gms) will reset the thyroid and put you back into fat burning mode.
    Yah that is a bit of a leap of faith for me, and contest prep would not necessarily be the time to find out. I would say that yes it does make some sense. I will never be in contest prep again but I do want to try some nutrient partitioning, 300-400 grams may be a bit high for me though. I was planning on using Neovar with maybe around 100 grams total pre and post workout as I am pretty carb senstitive. Maybe a bit more I need to do more research.
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    you know, i've been using neovar so long now I think I lost my carb sensitivity....

    adrenalean is only $20 now with a shirt too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah that is a bit of a leap of faith for me, and contest prep would not necessarily be the time to find out. I would say that yes it does make some sense. I will never be in contest prep again but I do want to try some nutrient partitioning, 300-400 grams may be a bit high for me though. I was planning on using Neovar with maybe around 100 grams total pre and post workout as I am pretty carb senstitive. Maybe a bit more I need to do more research.
    If you were close to getting on stage I wouldnt try it either but at your weight I doubt that 300gms would be too much. Its only slightly more then 1 gm per lb. Most of it should be consumed around the workout as that has the biggest effect on lean mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    If you were close to getting on stage I wouldnt try it either but at your weight I doubt that 300gms would be too much. Its only slightly more then 1 gm per lb. Most of it should be consumed around the workout as that has the biggest effect on lean mass.

    Duely noted. I am on contant recomp though so I would prefer to lose fat rather to gain any more mass. I am kind of big already. At my age I would rather keep my weight around 220-30. At that weight I will be quite cut so no need for any more mass. So I will play with the carbs a little, have to do some research to find out where I should start with the neovar but fat burn will be my main goal. You say that I can take in 300 without effecting fat burn, though so maybe I'll bring it up some. I am a little afraid of carbs as I am new to this nutrient partitioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Duely noted. I am on contant recomp though so I would prefer to lose fat rather to gain any more mass. I am kind of big already. At my age I would rather keep my weight around 220-30. At that weight I will be quite cut so no need for any more mass. So I will play with the carbs a little, have to do some research to find out where I should start with the neovar but fat burn will be my main goal. You say that I can take in 300 without effecting fat burn, though so maybe I'll bring it up some. I am a little afraid of carbs as I am new to this nutrient partitioning.
    You cant take 300 everyday, it is just for 3 or 4 days to kick start the thyroid. But you can take in 50-75gms around your workout everyday without it effecting fatloss. That sthe ideal time for recomping as the body stores the carbs and protein in the muscle.
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    Yah ok got yuh, I was getting carried away almost forgot what we were talking about in the first place. Yes I am aware of the window available for carb intake around the workout. Maybe 25 grams before 50 after, something of that nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah ok got yuh, I was getting carried away almost forgot what we were talking about in the first place. Yes I am aware of the window available for carb intake around the workout. Maybe 25 grams before 50 after, something of that nature.
    From another forum...the "window" is a bit myth according to some people..I don't know where this study came from:

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    As if you had not heard this before here, this abstract from an article titled “Resistance Training Reduces Fasted- and Fed-State Leucine Turnover and Increases Dietary Nitrogen Retention in Previously Untrained Young Men” in the Journal of Nutrition establishes in young, untrained men that the retention of nitrogen (a measure of protein or muscle) is altered by intense work outs to favor protein retention. Feeding does little to alter the balance of protein wastage versus protein retention. Why? Evolution designed our regulatory mechanisms to conserve protein through many mechanisms I have mentioned over the years on this blog. Our ancestors did not have supplements, yet they were as muscular as any one of us should be in a healthy state.

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    Nitrogen balance was more positive after training (13.7 ± 8.1 vs. 33.4 ± 12.5 g/(kg LBM · d), P < 0.01) indicating an increased retention of dietary nitrogen. Intense resistance training alters whole body protein kinetics in novice weightlifters regardless of feeding status. The increase in nitrogen balance after training demonstrates a more efficient utilization of dietary nitrogen, suggesting that protein requirements for novice weightlifters are not elevated.

    Note that the authors did not distinguish between nitrogen retention with respect to feeding, because there was no difference. So, why would you drink a protein drink laden with simple carbs after a workout? You shouldn’t. Heavy workouts will increase your appetite and food intake, but over a course of days and weeks. There is no immediate “window” for growth; it is a longer term adaptation. And growth is over rated. You want to be muscular and lean, not smooth and a bit over weight. Supplements will promote the latter, not the healthier and more functional former.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maradona10 View Post
    From another forum...the "window" is a bit myth according to some people..I don't know where this study came from:

    Opinions vary;


    Another HIt against post exercise protein requirements and supplements
    As if you had not heard this before here, this abstract from an article titled “Resistance Training Reduces Fasted- and Fed-State Leucine Turnover and Increases Dietary Nitrogen Retention in Previously Untrained Young Men” in the Journal of Nutrition establishes in young, untrained men that the retention of nitrogen (a measure of protein or muscle) is altered by intense work outs to favor protein retention. Feeding does little to alter the balance of protein wastage versus protein retention. Why? Evolution designed our regulatory mechanisms to conserve protein through many mechanisms I have mentioned over the years on this blog. Our ancestors did not have supplements, yet they were as muscular as any one of us should be in a healthy state.

    From the abstract:


    Nitrogen balance was more positive after training (13.7 ± 8.1 vs. 33.4 ± 12.5 g/(kg LBM · d), P < 0.01) indicating an increased retention of dietary nitrogen. Intense resistance training alters whole body protein kinetics in novice weightlifters regardless of feeding status. The increase in nitrogen balance after training demonstrates a more efficient utilization of dietary nitrogen, suggesting that protein requirements for novice weightlifters are not elevated.

    Note that the authors did not distinguish between nitrogen retention with respect to feeding, because there was no difference. So, why would you drink a protein drink laden with simple carbs after a workout? You shouldn’t. Heavy workouts will increase your appetite and food intake, but over a course of days and weeks. There is no immediate “window” for growth; it is a longer term adaptation. And growth is over rated. You want to be muscular and lean, not smooth and a bit over weight. Supplements will promote the latter, not the healthier and more functional former.
    Boy you can smell the bias here.

    Our anscestors had enough healthy muscle yah, but were bodybuilders we don't want to look like our anscestors, we are capable of gaining much more mass... how do we do it, we supplement our diet.

    And who says you can't be bigger and leaner using nutritional supplementation. This is just a dumbass comment. This person is obviously against having the extra lean mass that most bodybuilders enjoy. Extra mass may not always be functional but it gives us the look we are trying to attain.
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    Recreate is the way to go... burn fat with no crazy stim feeling
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcour1226 View Post
    Recreate is the way to go... burn fat with no crazy stim feeling
    Recreate vs T3? Go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spigot View Post
    Recreate vs T3? Go.
    I'd choose Recreate, it's just a great fatloss tool, it covers all your angles. I do like T3 but i wouldn't go over 50mcg without some sort of anabolic, pct is needed and it can deplete glycogen like crazy. Honestly if you really wanted to you could combine them, like 4 caps recreate 25mcg T3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    I'd choose Recreate, it's just a great fatloss tool, it covers all your angles. I do like T3 but i wouldn't go over 50mcg without some sort of anabolic, pct is needed and it can deplete glycogen like crazy. Honestly if you really wanted to you could combine them, like 4 caps recreate 25mcg T3.
    What about using Recreate directly after a low dose T3 cycle while the thyroid is getting back up and kicking?
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    definitely would have to say methyl ripped..used in college level wrestling for NCWA..left for winter break came bak about 3 weeks later and my coach brought me to the side and asked me if i was on sumtin i wasnt suppose to b on..good stuff...def. tops my list and ive been on a good amount of fat burners for seasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    ..or if you cant mess with stims than go with "Recreate"
    recreate has caffein in it
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    Quote Originally Posted by kanny View Post
    recreate has caffein in it
    Not enough for any sort of stim really. I am very sensitive and don't get stimmed from it.
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    lipotrophin-pm has green tea listed first, and it helps my sleep. but it is probably de-caffeineated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps View Post
    If youre going to be serious about your diet Ill send you a bottle of Adrenalean for free. Try it out and let me know how it worked towards the 7lbs of fatloss. PM me your addy if you are interested.

    shoot, i'll take a bottle of that, was thinking of trying yellow bullet, im looking to start a cutting cycle and definitely need the boost.
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