[Ziquor]

Namely casein. I've seen this both ways. I can understand the logic of keeping your body in positive nitrogen retention, yet there seem to be many who believe this to be a bad idea having the lower GI working throughout the night.

[ecu19]

Hmm guess i'm the only one that's voted.

I just don't buy the whole thing that your body instantly goes to muscle breakdown to provide energy while you sleep at night. The bodies method of using fuel is carbs, then fat (even body fat), then muscle. The body wants to hold onto muscle as much as possible, so it will use fat as its secondary fuel source. Remember the 9/4 calories for 1 fat or 1 protein gram respectively from bio class?

I haven't noticed any "muscle decrease" or strength just because I don't use a slow release protein at night.

[Ziquor]

Interesting POV. The big 'possible' negatives I've seen is the long digesting process of Casein before bed can possibly interfere with sleep and possibly decrease spikes of HGH during sleep.

[LeeN]

Originally Posted by Ziquor

I've seen this both ways. I can understand the logic of keeping your body in positive nitrogen retention, yet there seem to be many who believe this to be a bad idea having the lower GI working throughout the night.

If by "slow release", you mean Casein...yes I try to ingest some each night. I've supplemented with powder, but now I just eat some low-fat cottage cheese.

[Ziquor]

Yeah, I clarified the question. Specifically casein with it having a 7 hour average digestion time.

[ralph4u2c]

im a fan of it, i like ultra peptide 1.0...its like a midnight snack and does my body good all at the same time.

[SilentBob187]

I used to but not any more. I load up on fats and sometimes bcaas about an hour to 30 minutes before bed. I'd rather have my body work on GH production and recovery while I sleep rather than digesting. Just my 2 cents, certainly not right or wrong, just my preference.

[TheUnlikelyToad]

It's not going to matter if you are bulking.

Cutting... it depends.

[nunes]

I use the est proteins (ana or bio pro blend) and for me having some slow digestion proteins before bed its a must have cause if I don't take them I simply cant fall a sleep with hunger cramps, they have low calories and a good taste.

[ms3jake]

What is a good tasting casein product. I tried ON's chocolate and its undrinkable. Its surprising since ON's whey tastes so great.

[OCCFan023]

The majority of the time I just take in some cottage cheese and maybe some skim milk. However if I need the convenience I will go with a casein shake (and thats fats are kept staples of flax, almonds, or pb). Also always with broccoli.

[TheUnlikelyToad]

Originally Posted by ms3jake

What is a good tasting casein product. I tried ON's chocolate and its undrinkable. Its surprising since ON's whey tastes so great.

Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide is great tasting and superior quality.

[LatsRus]

high fat high protein meal - eggs and fish for me. i like this and also hate waking up still feeling full while having to eat breakfast. i used to wake up halfway through sleeping for a protein shake, but found this to just make breakfast harder to eat and i felt less rested. ive been making great gains with eggs and fish before bed as apart of my diet so ima say no to casein.

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by Ziquor;

...possibly decrease spikes of HGH during sleep.

Yep! Personally, this is the reason I avoid such supplementation.

[OCCFan023]

Originally Posted by LatsRus

high fat high protein meal - eggs and fish for me. i like this and also hate waking up still feeling full while having to eat breakfast. i used to wake up halfway through sleeping for a protein shake, but found this to just make