Best 6-Bromo product for NHA stack? Hyperdrol?
- 05-29-2008, 03:22 PM
Best 6-Bromo product for NHA stack? Hyperdrol?
I'm running a Rebound Reloaded / Activate / Recreate Stack right now and enjoying the results.
I think I need to get 1 more bottle of the Rebound Reloaded to complete things, but I see that DS no longer makes it.
I don't know exactly how much of the 6-Bromo was in a cap, because each cap contained 400 mg of a proprietary matrix (white buttom mushroom extract, flax seed oil powder and 6-Bromotase). But you are to take 3 per day.
So I am looking at other 6-Bromo only products. The main 2 that I see are both by AX:
Hyperdrol X2 - each cap contains 50mg of 6-Bromo, and you are to take 4 per day
Advanced PCT - this has only 25mg per cap and you are to take 3 per day, but this is geared towards PCT as opposed to optimizing results on 6-Bromo alone.
Restore by ALRI is similar to Advanced PCT.
My simple question: With Rebound Reloaded gone, is Hyperdrol X2 the way to go for a solid 6-Bromo product? Thanks.
- 05-29-2008, 05:12 PM
- 05-29-2008, 05:39 PM
05-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Not sure how 6-Bromoandrostenedione compares to 6-Bromodione, or if it's even the same compound to be honest. Hopefully somebody more versed on this subject will pop by here, just giving you an option I noticed (Because NP just got it back in-stock at a rock-bottom price!)
05-29-2008, 06:20 PM
to tell u the truth i would pick up cissus-drol...NP doesnt carry it (sucks huh)...its cheap and effective...the only downside is that its a proprietary blend...and i hate those...but it has been the most effective product of its kind that ive tried so far...
05-29-2008, 06:24 PM
05-30-2008, 06:25 AM
05-30-2008, 06:34 AM
what do you guys think about PA 6-bromo theory?
In case you don't know he says that the beta isomer acts like a suppressive steroid and only the alpha isomer acts like an AI.
He says that the reason that blood test show a increase in test is because of false positives originated from the beta isomer
05-30-2008, 06:52 AM
05-30-2008, 07:45 AM
In RR, the ingredient is: 6-bromo-3,17-dioxoetioallocholane
I don't know if that is the alpha or beta isomer. Hyperdrol has 6-Bromodione, and again, I don't know if alpha or beta.
Is PA saying the compound is unsafe compared to ATD? Basically, from what I saw come and go, 6-Bromo replaced ATD in many products. So was this an unsafe choice?
I have never had problems w/ it and am running it now, but am curious.
05-30-2008, 08:33 AM
05-30-2008, 08:38 AM
...cross referencing with the values for 6-chloro-testosterone from Vida or Merck Index...
Essentially, what makes these derivations of 4-AD into AI's is sticking a strong negative charge on carbon 6. The strain a 6-functional group causes is in correlation with Coulomb's law, which states that repulsion/attraction force is equal to the product of the two charges divided by the square of their distance.
But the choro groups are the least electro negative of halogens, and that bromine is not only much more electro negative, but a much larger molecule as well (which lowers the distance factor).
05-30-2008, 08:40 AM
05-30-2008, 08:46 AM
05-30-2008, 09:00 AM
05-30-2008, 11:48 AM
05-30-2008, 01:13 PM
well I know that PA is a competitor cause he sells 6-oxo but I have to say that his statement made me uncomfortable to take 6-br cause his a real steroid guru.
One of the reasons that lead to the replacement of atd could be the price but I`m not certain of this, do what your conscience tell you to do cause there's no prove of nothing
05-30-2008, 01:38 PM
05-30-2008, 01:46 PM
05-30-2008, 07:09 PM
Everyone overkills the PCT aspect.
Just run a test booster afterwards and you should be fine. A lot of this is dose dependent.
05-30-2008, 08:39 PM
05-30-2008, 09:10 PM
05-30-2008, 10:11 PM
05-30-2008, 10:12 PM
05-30-2008, 11:24 PM
05-31-2008, 08:57 AM
If nowadays its possible to do a decent pct why not do it?
more gains are kept and more sides controlled, I`m with piston in this one.
05-31-2008, 10:48 AM
05-31-2008, 01:47 PM
05-31-2008, 02:14 PM
05-31-2008, 02:44 PM
ok my post should have been clarified. Jared is correct, I wasn't making a blanket statement, only one towards 6-bromo since that was the subject that was being discussed.
I understand the need for a SERM, etc, etc for PCT. This is basic human physiology.
05-31-2008, 02:47 PM
I supposed if you took 6-bromo is excessively high doses then maybe some type PCT might be needed.
I think the dose needs to be examined.
05-31-2008, 03:34 PM
for long cycles with injectables, well this is another story, a SERM its a must have and hcg on cycle imo also.
05-31-2008, 05:19 PM
well u are wrong he WASNT talking about that...im very sure REAPERX would suggest a good pct for ph's...but were not talking about ph's were talking about 6-bromo...read the thread over and ull understand the sugject a bit more...
anyways... i really dont think 6-bromo would be suppressive enough to need a PCT...maybe at dosages like 500mgs or more...and i dont put much merit in what PA says...ever...i think 6-bromo is a great alternative to ATD or 6-OXO...especially when combined with some other testboosters like DTH....
05-31-2008, 05:26 PM
I've used both Hyperdrol X2 and Advanced PCT, i felt very good on both my preference would go to Hyperdrol X2 though as it is the more potent product. I did like the extra..ahem sensitivity the L-histidine in A-PCT gave me though, lol.
05-31-2008, 05:33 PM
i like 6-bromo. It is clean and a decent product. I don't have anything bad to say about it. I just ran it (not excessively high) and just used a test booster afterwards.
Cissus-drol/Hyperdrol (original) I THINK has 25mg of 6-bromo in it, which is half of the new Hyperdrol X2.
Anyways, I liked it and had good strength gains from it. Not a ton of gains in size, but my lifts improved.
I'm not proclaiming this to everyone, but I won't use a SERM/HCG for Hyperdrol @ recommended dosage, that is just retarded.
05-31-2008, 07:09 PM
Okay now i dont know if you change your position because it was suggested by your boy Jared or if that is what you truly meant in the first place but if that is the case, then im on your side on the subject. PCT for 6bromo is retarded and i would never do one for it, i dont even think a test booster is needed but i guess it couldnt hurt. Using a SERM would just add more stress to your overall health for no apprent reason.
05-31-2008, 07:11 PM
The subject in the thread was 6-bromo. I've used the product in the past so that's what my comments were isolated to.
I took Cissus-drol, then finished it off with a test booster.
05-31-2008, 09:43 PM
05-31-2008, 10:05 PM
Speaking of Cissus-Drol..
is $30.41 a good deal for it?
05-31-2008, 10:21 PM
I think the bromo in cissus-drol is slightly underdosed thus needing a higher amount. Ozarka, that price is good.
Not to dog AX, but why pay more when you can get it cheaper ?
I wound up taking 3 caps/ED for week 1
then 4 caps/ED for week 2
then 5 caps/ED till it was gone.
Probably want to buy 2 bottles to make it worthwhile.
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