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    Best 6-Bromo product for NHA stack? Hyperdrol?


    I'm running a Rebound Reloaded / Activate / Recreate Stack right now and enjoying the results.

    I think I need to get 1 more bottle of the Rebound Reloaded to complete things, but I see that DS no longer makes it.

    I don't know exactly how much of the 6-Bromo was in a cap, because each cap contained 400 mg of a proprietary matrix (white buttom mushroom extract, flax seed oil powder and 6-Bromotase). But you are to take 3 per day.

    So I am looking at other 6-Bromo only products. The main 2 that I see are both by AX:

    Hyperdrol X2 - each cap contains 50mg of 6-Bromo, and you are to take 4 per day

    Advanced PCT - this has only 25mg per cap and you are to take 3 per day, but this is geared towards PCT as opposed to optimizing results on 6-Bromo alone.

    Restore by ALRI is similar to Advanced PCT.

    My simple question: With Rebound Reloaded gone, is Hyperdrol X2 the way to go for a solid 6-Bromo product? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    It's 12mg/cap and says to take 1-3 daily = 36mg/day.

    Far cry from Hyperdrol which = 200mg/day

    What is the recommended daily dose for 6-Bromo as a standalone (not for PCT)?
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    Not sure how 6-Bromoandrostenedione compares to 6-Bromodione, or if it's even the same compound to be honest. Hopefully somebody more versed on this subject will pop by here, just giving you an option I noticed (Because NP just got it back in-stock at a rock-bottom price!)
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    to tell u the truth i would pick up cissus-drol...NP doesnt carry it (sucks huh)...its cheap and effective...the only downside is that its a proprietary blend...and i hate those...but it has been the most effective product of its kind that ive tried so far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    It's 12mg/cap and says to take 1-3 daily = 36mg/day.

    Far cry from Hyperdrol which = 200mg/day..
    damn, thats true...what the hell....??.....you'll need close to 17 pills a day of Juggernauts version,That adds up to about 6 bottles a month. Screw that noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaredGalloway View Post
    to tell u the truth i would pick up cissus-drol...NP doesnt carry it (sucks huh)...its cheap and effective...the only downside is that its a proprietary blend...and i hate those...but it has been the most effective product of its kind that ive tried so far...
    Cissus drol is cool and all, but at least with AX you know how much 6-bromo your getting.
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    what do you guys think about PA 6-bromo theory?
    In case you don't know he says that the beta isomer acts like a suppressive steroid and only the alpha isomer acts like an AI.
    He says that the reason that blood test show a increase in test is because of false positives originated from the beta isomer
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    what do you guys think about PA 6-bromo theory?
    In case you don't know he says that the beta isomer acts like a suppressive steroid and only the alpha isomer acts like an AI.
    He says that the reason that blood test show a increase in test is because of false positives originated from the beta isomer
    Well PA's a smart dude, I don't dispute that. But I've used 6-bromo and had good results with it, and alot of others did as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    what do you guys think about PA 6-bromo theory?
    In case you don't know he says that the beta isomer acts like a suppressive steroid and only the alpha isomer acts like an AI.
    He says that the reason that blood test show a increase in test is because of false positives originated from the beta isomer
    I guess I am less intelligent than you both, because my question is, what is happening if there is no increase in test from 6-bromo?

    In RR, the ingredient is: 6-bromo-3,17-dioxoetioallocholane

    I don't know if that is the alpha or beta isomer. Hyperdrol has 6-Bromodione, and again, I don't know if alpha or beta.

    Is PA saying the compound is unsafe compared to ATD? Basically, from what I saw come and go, 6-Bromo replaced ATD in many products. So was this an unsafe choice?

    I have never had problems w/ it and am running it now, but am curious.

    Thanks.
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    T-Drive Xtreme is only $10 at Nutra right now.
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/j...e-x-treme.html
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    cross referencing with the values for 6-chloro-testosterone from Vida or Merck Index...

    Essentially, what makes these derivations of 4-AD into AI's is sticking a strong negative charge on carbon 6. The strain a 6-functional group causes is in correlation with Coulomb's law, which states that repulsion/attraction force is equal to the product of the two charges divided by the square of their distance.

    But the choro groups are the least electro negative of halogens, and that bromine is not only much more electro negative, but a much larger molecule as well (which lowers the distance factor).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    T-Drive Xtreme is only $10 at Nutra right now.
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/j...e-x-treme.html
    Not a bad price. Seems like a low dose tho?
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    3 bottles for $30 could yeild some awesome results, though. Pretty good price considering the popular Bromo product cost $50.
    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    Not a bad price. Seems like a low dose tho?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    3 bottles for $30 could yeild some awesome results, though. Pretty good price considering the popular Bromo product cost $50.
    Very true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    Not a bad price. Seems like a low dose tho?
    exactly..the dose is ridiculously low..take enough pills to get a decent dose and the price is no longer so reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    I guess I am less intelligent than you both, because my question is, what is happening if there is no increase in test from 6-bromo?

    In RR, the ingredient is: 6-bromo-3,17-dioxoetioallocholane

    I don't know if that is the alpha or beta isomer. Hyperdrol has 6-Bromodione, and again, I don't know if alpha or beta.

    Is PA saying the compound is unsafe compared to ATD? Basically, from what I saw come and go, 6-Bromo replaced ATD in many products. So was this an unsafe choice?

    I have never had problems w/ it and am running it now, but am curious.

    Thanks.
    almost every product with 6-br on the market have the 2 isomers( I believe that only the new attitude from san have only the alpha one ) so hyperdrol is no exception.
    well I know that PA is a competitor cause he sells 6-oxo but I have to say that his statement made me uncomfortable to take 6-br cause his a real steroid guru.
    One of the reasons that lead to the replacement of atd could be the price but I`m not certain of this, do what your conscience tell you to do cause there's no prove of nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    almost every product with 6-br on the market have the 2 isomers( I believe that only the new attitude from san have only the alpha one ) so hyperdrol is no exception.
    well I know that PA is a competitor cause he sells 6-oxo but I have to say that his statement made me uncomfortable to take 6-br cause his a real steroid guru.
    One of the reasons that lead to the replacement of atd could be the price but I`m not certain of this, do what your conscience tell you to do cause there's no prove of nothing
    What I am trying to figure out is: what are the concerns w/ 6-bromo? That it is suppressive? That it would therefore need PCT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    What I am trying to figure out is: what are the concerns w/ 6-bromo? That it is suppressive? That it would therefore need PCT?
    that's what PA says , or you trust him or you doubt him is now your choice
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    Everyone overkills the PCT aspect.

    Just run a test booster afterwards and you should be fine. A lot of this is dose dependent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Everyone overkills the PCT aspect.

    Just run a test booster afterwards and you should be fine. A lot of this is dose dependent.
    thats the worst advice ive heard in a while. and you are serious too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Not sure how 6-Bromoandrostenedione compares to 6-Bromodione, or if it's even the same compound to be honest.

    i would like to hear more on this subject...
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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    i would like to hear more on this subject...
    They are the same thing. Just written differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    thats the worst advice ive heard in a while. and you are serious too.

    it is because it is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    it is because it is true.
    yeah sure, if you think so. Running a test booster as a PCT? are you forgeting about estrogen rebound? Not to mention a test booster isnt gonna have you recover, they are just not that effective yet. Im sure you are an expert seeing how youre soo experienced with cycles
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    yeah sure, if you think so. Running a test booster as a PCT? are you forgeting about estrogen rebound? Not to mention a test booster isnt gonna have you recover, they are just not that effective yet.:
    This is true, of course that in the old times a lot of guys recover nicely without a decent pct but some others don't and they get severely damaged for all their live.
    If nowadays its possible to do a decent pct why not do it?
    more gains are kept and more sides controlled, I`m with piston in this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    This is true, of course that in the old times a lot of guys recover nicely without a decent pct but some others don't and they get severely damaged for all their live.
    If nowadays its possible to do a decent pct why not do it?
    more gains are kept and more sides controlled, I`m with piston in this one.
    How serious of PCT was discussed? Are we talking tamoxifen citrate (nolvadex, which I do have) or are we talking something like Advanced PCT by AX? Because Advanced PCT has additional 6-bromo in it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    yeah sure, if you think so. Running a test booster as a PCT? are you forgeting about estrogen rebound? Not to mention a test booster isnt gonna have you recover, they are just not that effective yet. Im sure you are an expert seeing how youre soo experienced with cycles

    i think what he meant was that a PCT for 6-bromo is usually overdone but still might be needed...i dont think he was talking about PCT for superdrol or anything of those...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaredGalloway View Post
    i think what he meant was that a PCT for 6-bromo is usually overdone but still might be needed...i dont think he was talking about PCT for superdrol or anything of those...
    what are YOU talking about? He said that PCTs are overdone and he meant PCTs in general saying that a test booster is all thats needed thats pretty much crazy talk.
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    ok my post should have been clarified. Jared is correct, I wasn't making a blanket statement, only one towards 6-bromo since that was the subject that was being discussed.


    I understand the need for a SERM, etc, etc for PCT. This is basic human physiology.
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    I supposed if you took 6-bromo is excessively high doses then maybe some type PCT might be needed.

    I think the dose needs to be examined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCbuilder View Post
    How serious of PCT was discussed? Are we talking tamoxifen citrate (nolvadex, which I do have) or are we talking something like Advanced PCT by AX? Because Advanced PCT has additional 6-bromo in it...
    IMO if your using high suppressive steroids like superdrol, phera, test, etc for a 4- 6-weeks cycle you`ll need a serm for sure, for shorter cycles or not very suppressive stuff like 11-oxo, furazadrol, anavar,etc a otc pct(like 6-oxo, atd) maybe its sufficient to get things straight.
    for long cycles with injectables, well this is another story, a SERM its a must have and hcg on cycle imo also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    what are YOU talking about? He said that PCTs are overdone and he meant PCTs in general saying that a test booster is all thats needed thats pretty much crazy talk.

    well u are wrong he WASNT talking about that...im very sure REAPERX would suggest a good pct for ph's...but were not talking about ph's were talking about 6-bromo...read the thread over and ull understand the sugject a bit more...

    anyways... i really dont think 6-bromo would be suppressive enough to need a PCT...maybe at dosages like 500mgs or more...and i dont put much merit in what PA says...ever...i think 6-bromo is a great alternative to ATD or 6-OXO...especially when combined with some other testboosters like DTH....
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    I've used both Hyperdrol X2 and Advanced PCT, i felt very good on both my preference would go to Hyperdrol X2 though as it is the more potent product. I did like the extra..ahem sensitivity the L-histidine in A-PCT gave me though, lol.
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    i like 6-bromo. It is clean and a decent product. I don't have anything bad to say about it. I just ran it (not excessively high) and just used a test booster afterwards.


    Cissus-drol/Hyperdrol (original) I THINK has 25mg of 6-bromo in it, which is half of the new Hyperdrol X2.


    Anyways, I liked it and had good strength gains from it. Not a ton of gains in size, but my lifts improved.


    I'm not proclaiming this to everyone, but I won't use a SERM/HCG for Hyperdrol @ recommended dosage, that is just retarded.
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    Okay now i dont know if you change your position because it was suggested by your boy Jared or if that is what you truly meant in the first place but if that is the case, then im on your side on the subject. PCT for 6bromo is retarded and i would never do one for it, i dont even think a test booster is needed but i guess it couldnt hurt. Using a SERM would just add more stress to your overall health for no apprent reason.
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    The subject in the thread was 6-bromo. I've used the product in the past so that's what my comments were isolated to.

    I took Cissus-drol, then finished it off with a test booster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    The subject in the thread was 6-bromo. I've used the product in the past so that's what my comments were isolated to.

    I took Cissus-drol, then finished it off with a test booster.

    yeah cissus-drol is my favorite 6-bromo product out right now...because its cheaper than hyperdrolx2...but for cissus-drol i always run it at double the dosage...and at that much hopefully u should be getting a pretty decent amount of divanil and forskolin...
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    Speaking of Cissus-Drol..

    is $30.41 a good deal for it?
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    I think the bromo in cissus-drol is slightly underdosed thus needing a higher amount. Ozarka, that price is good.

    Not to dog AX, but why pay more when you can get it cheaper ?

    I wound up taking 3 caps/ED for week 1

    then 4 caps/ED for week 2

    then 5 caps/ED till it was gone.


    Probably want to buy 2 bottles to make it worthwhile.
  

  
 

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