[BIGGUNZ401]

Any good recommendations?? Im thinking of stacking DCP with another supplement!

[Chub]

Lean Xtreme 2 seems to be getting a lot of good reviews. I've got a bottle of it i'll be using when cutting time comes!

[dsade]

Lean Extreme and Napalm are both non-stim, effective choices to stack with DCP.

[strategicmove]

Another option with zero stimulants is Lipotrophin-PM. You can take it during the day, too. Imagine losing fat while you sleep! You may consider adding Green Tea (there is some in Lipotrophin-PM) and Forskolin to your mix.

[dsade]

I'm with you there, Strat...green tea, though, is hard to categorize.

Most has some caffeine but, more importantly, its CoMT inhibition can act as an indirect stimulant, depending on your NA response.

[Cool]

DCP, Recreate and Napalm. Solid.

[strategicmove]

I'm with you there, Strat...green tea, though, is hard to categorize.

Most has some caffeine but, more importantly, its CoMT inhibition can act as an indirect stimulant, depending on your NA response.

You are right, dsade! In many users, though (myself included), the l-theanine in Green Tea more than compensates for any stimulant-type effects.

[dsade]

You are right, dsade! In many users, though (myself included), the l-theanine in Green Tea more than compensates for any stimulant-type effects.

It's such a hit or miss with me...if I take it too late in the day, then something gets me riled up then I am screwed.

I remember when I was in testing phase for the original Clear Edge (with Green Tea), we entered a poker tournament. First time I went all-in on a bluff, I went to take a sip of beer and my hands were shaking so bad I almost spilled it all over the place. That shaking lasted for at least 10 minutes....I dropped Green Tea from the formula.

[strategicmove]

DCP, Recreate and Napalm. Solid.

Recreate is awesome (it is currently in my stack). I thought the thread starter was looking for a non-stimulant fat-burner, otherwise I would have mentioned Recreate, Leviathan Reloaded, Lipotrophin-AM, Shred-XS Hardcore, and some more!

[crader]

I like the Lipotrophin formulas AM and PM as a decent stack with DCP. Then add the topicals as you drop to a leaner you and hit the stubborn areas.

[BIGGUNZ401]

WOW thanks for the all help... The reason why I'm asking suggestions on a non-stimulant fat burner is because today I just finished using an ECA STACK for a month and a half. To be honest with you, it wasnt really effective. I got results but noting amazing. Im pretty sure it was my diet and cardio that helped not the ECA..

The reason why I'm asking suggestions on a non-stimulant fat burner is do you think that after a month and a half of an ECA stack it is still safe to begin a stimulant fat burner?

I used Levi Reloaded and Regular Levi last year and had great results.. I might just go with this again and stack it with DCP this time.. Thanks..

[BIGGUNZ401]

Recreate is awesome (it is currently in my stack). I thought the thread starter was looking for a non-stimulant fat-burner, otherwise I would have mentioned Recreate, Leviathan Reloaded, Lipotrophin-AM, Shred-XS Hardcore, and some more!

I also have some Drive and RPM laying around.. What do you think of this with DCP? Over kill??

[BIGGUNZ401]

DCP, Recreate and Napalm. Solid.

Why is recreate getting such bad reviews on Nutraplanet.com?????????

[dsade]

WOW thanks for the all help... The reason why I'm asking suggestions on a non-stimulant fat burner is because today I just finished using an ECA STACK for a month and a half. To be honest with you, it wasnt really effective. I got results but noting amazing. Im pretty sure it was my diet and cardio that helped not the ECA..

The reason why I'm asking suggestions on a non-stimulant fat burner is do you think that after a month and a half of an ECA stack it is still safe to begin a stimulant fat burner?

I used Levi Reloaded and Regular Levi last year and had great results.. I might just go with this again and stack it with DCP this time.. Thanks..

6 weeks on ECA is not that bad, depending on dosage and individual sensitivity.

I think you would be fine bringing back the Leviathan Reloaded/DCP.

[strategicmove]

I also have some Drive and RPM laying around.. What do you think of this with DCP? Over kill??

Definitely not! Though RPM contains stimulants (contrary to your thread objective), it should make an awesome stack. RPM and Drive alone deliver superior recomposition, as several independent feedback here testify. Add DCP to that and you'll love the outcome!

[Cool]

Why is recreate getting such bad reviews on Nutraplanet.com?????????

Maybe cause people are looking for a kick that isn't there. 150mg caffeine isn't gonna get most people. IDK, I lost 10lbs in 5 weeks after being at a plateau for a while. I really like it.

[strategicmove]

Why is recreate getting such bad reviews on Nutraplanet.com?????????

I find Recreate is a solid product. While some feedback on online retail outlets may be objective, some others may not be, especially if some competition decides to talk down the product. Try looking around AnabolicMinds for any independent Recreate feedback and logs. You might get a better rounded picture that way...

[Steveoph]

Why is recreate getting such bad reviews on Nutraplanet.com?????????

My crystal ball is cloudy, but every supplement has it's haters. I can only speculate, but perhaps the popularity has brought out the critics, or perhaps since it is a fat-burner and was very anticipated people judged it before giving it adequate time.

I have given a bottle of recreate to my gym partner and my sister, and both of them were quite happy with the results. I suggest you read the review/log section of AM and look for more opinions to help form your opinion.

As for caffeine-free fat-burners, I would have to echo Strag's and Dsade's suggestions. I'm a big fan of Green Tea and Forskolin. DCP is also a very useful product.

After a long caffeine-run, I would suggest you look into some Reset-AD to help restore your adrenal system (It even comes stacked with Leviathan if you wish to go that route Reset Reloaded Stack (1 Reset AD + 1 Leviathan Reloaded) By: Palo Alto Labs) .

[strategicmove]

I like the Lipotrophin formulas AM and PM as a decent stack with DCP. Then add the topicals as you drop to a leaner you and hit the stubborn areas.

Awesome!

[Cellardude]

I also have some Drive and RPM laying around.. What do you think of this with DCP? Over kill??

why overkill?

Drive has some amazing recomp properties. Im leaning out like a madman on my current stack.

drive
green tea caps
sesamin oil
flax seed oil
recreate
anabolic pump

[Thanos]

I like the Lipo Pm and for the price and number of servings in the bottle its hard to beat. The caffeine is such a small overall percentage of the green tea so I have never had any issues with it. The other ingredients do a really nice job of helping me wind down too. I train in the evening too.

[DreamWeaver]

I have been using Recreate and Napalm and just loving it. I have dieted down many times in my life but never had these kind of results. It's freaky how much mass I am maintaining.

I will be adding drive and IGF2 starting this weekend. I am very excited.

[Cellardude]

Why is recreate getting such bad reviews on Nutraplanet.com?????????

Im using recreate right now. The fat flying OFF claim is total bs. (but I havent tested it enough to actually say so)

I broke a plateau when I added in the recreate to be honest. My waist appears thinner and my V tamper is coming back to me slowly.

What I dont understand is when people say they got nothing out of fat burners. Fat burners are supposed to help aid in fat loss not just melt fat off. With that said even the worst fat burner or a placebo effect fat burner would be able to help you lose weight if your diet is on the spot. If not dont expect anything to help you lose weight.

Recreates pretty decent and fairly priced but its not the most mind blowing fat burner ive seen out. Leviathan worked wonders for me and Im saving that puppy for last.

[strategicmove]

It's such a hit or miss with me...if I take it too late in the day, then something gets me riled up then I am screwed.

I remember when I was in testing phase for the original Clear Edge (with Green Tea), we entered a poker tournament. First time I went all-in on a bluff, I went to take a sip of beer and my hands were shaking so bad I almost spilled it all over the place. That shaking lasted for at least 10 minutes....I dropped Green Tea from the formula.

But beer was the culprit, right?

[dsade]

But beer was the culprit, right?

SACRELIGE!!! BEER is NEVER the culprit!!

[Steveoph]

why overkill?

Drive has some amazing recomp properties. Im leaning out like a madman on my current stack.

drive
green tea caps
sesamin oil
flax seed oil
recreate
anabolic pump

Overkill is hard to define, but eventually when you start throwing so many products into a "stack" , it turns into one of those "Kitchen Sink" mixtures and then you can't tell what is really working for you. It's much easier to tell if a product is working for you when you're only taking 2 vs. 5 or 6 products.

[dsade]

I just worked a trade deal with USP, some GUT Health for some Recreate.

Crader and I will be giving it a shot, so I will post my impression of it.

[DreamWeaver]

Im using recreate right now. The fat flying OFF claim is total bs. (but I havent tested it enough to actually say so)

I broke a plateau when I added in the recreate to be honest. My waist appears thinner and my V tamper is coming back to me slowly.

What I dont understand is when people say they got nothing out of fat burners. Fat burners are supposed to help aid in fat loss not just melt fat off. With that said even the worst fat burner or a placebo effect fat burner would be able to help you lose weight if your diet is on the spot. If not dont expect anything to help you lose weight.

Recreates pretty decent and fairly priced but its not the most mind blowing fat burner ive seen out. Leviathan worked wonders for me and Im saving that puppy for last.

Hang in there it gets better, I have been on it for 3.5 weeks and really love it. I didn't expect fat to fly off and that is an objective statement anyway. Based on my experience... well I have never experienced anything like this. No I guess the fat is not just flying off but I do see consistant progress every couple of days without much weight loss. To some that might be fat flying off. One statement I can make is I could not have this kind of success without this supplement, of this I am convinced.

[BIGGUNZ401]

Hang in there it gets better, I have been on it for 3.5 weeks and really love it. I didn't expect fat to fly off and that is an objective statement anyway. Based on my experience... well I have never experienced anything like this. No I guess the fat is not just flying off but I do see consistant progress every couple of days without much weight loss. To some that might be fat flying off. One statement I can make is I could not have this kind of success without this supplement, of this I am convinced.

Hey dream weaver wasnt you alot bulkier last year?? I remember talking to you when I was using Levi..And you gave me some advice!

[BIGGUNZ401]

Alright guys.. what do you think about DCP + LEVI OR RECREATE FOR A RECOMP?? I really dont enjoy stacking too many supplements at once it actually makes me feel really ****ty. Im thinking of saving the RPM + DRIVE For another day..Thanks again..